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#1 Kwame_Kilpatrick

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 12:51 AM

i think joe thornton is very bad and i have never liked him especially compared to other canadian players like the great iginla and lemieux and yzerman. he has never been clutch and he does not play intense hockey and he does not even use his body enough because he is always going 2 miles per decade

overall i think his passing game is working in nhl because it is a slower pace but you can see in the olympics the speed is much higher

i do not think joe can pass in olympics with his slow style, and his sharks line is also bad, not clutch in any way, except heatley can be good

overall i think he is bad idk if anyone will agree but i have not trusted him. i would rather trust marco sturm with the game on the line or even maltby
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#2 Echolalia

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 12:53 AM

2 miles per decade is exactly the reason why i go out of my way to read your posts

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 12:54 AM

I thought i was the only one who noticed this. I dont think hes really making "bad" plays but that dude forces so many sketching passes.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:00 AM

laugh.gif Kwame you're the best.

All laughing aside, you are on to something and it's been a problem throughout his career. I'm not quite sure what exactly his deal is but he 'chokes'. At this point, it's almost as if it's a mindset problem.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:08 AM

I'm so happy your around Kwame, without sirdrake it's been tough on this site.

As far as Thornton, he does choke. And I'd take Malts anyday over him too! laugh.gif

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:10 AM

i wonder if Jumbo Joe has to cut his food into tiny pieces

Joe to Wife "remember to cut my hot dogs up"

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:19 AM

Thornton sucks when it comes to crunch time... he should be on Team Canada but roll his line like a 3rd line or something, and maybe give him some PP time see how that works out... but in clutch situations like at the end of the game, not a chance in hell

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:22 AM

Created this the last time they played in the playoffs. Still applies today.


"I think a tough team, a team that sticks together, is a lot better than leaving the onus on one guy to take care of business." - Brendan Shanahan

 

It still would be nice to have that one guy.


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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (wingsdiehard13 @ February 22, 2010 - 01:00AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
laugh.gif Kwame you're the best.

All laughing aside, you are on to something and it's been a problem throughout his career. I'm not quite sure what exactly his deal is but he 'chokes'. At this point, it's almost as if it's a mindset problem.


First off, this thread made me laugh, thank you Kwame.

Second, ^this is what I used to think, Thornton's mindset as the problem. But Kwame brings up a good point on how Joe seems to have a slower game. When you watch him in the regular season, he seems to be moving slower and game the speed is slower. But when it comes to the playoffs, or in this case the Olympics, the came speed is much higher and intense and he just doesn't know how to perform in those situations. Why else would he completely disappear in clutch situations?

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:41 AM

QUOTE (cupforwings @ February 22, 2010 - 01:40AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Second, ^this is what I used to think, Thornton's mindset as the problem. But Kwame brings up a good point on how Joe seems to have a slower game. When you watch him in the regular season, he seems to be moving slower and game the speed is slower. But when it comes to the playoffs, or in this case the Olympics, the came speed is much higher and intense and he just doesn't know how to perform in those situations. Why else would he completely disappear in clutch situations?

The way you put that makes a lot of sense. That's a very good point, I guess I've never thought of it that way.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:43 AM

Thornton is still a great player,sure he has choked in the past and ya for his size he should be killing anyone who is near him with the puck. just think though if he changed those little things in his game how much better he would be

#12 Kwame_Kilpatrick

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 02:23 AM

thank you guys for agreeing and the support

if i am comparing joe to another i think of jagr, a big body and he is not as fast as he was but he uses his body well, i do not think joe uses it either, maybe he wishes he was smaller.

i dont think he is bad just not great and i do not think canada needs him to be honest. they have enough skill with crosby as the leader. i think the age gap is bad and it should be a very young team with many in the 20s and maybe iginla and 3 or 4 other old farts to help out but some are too old, pronger is old and mean and neidermayer is looking weird with the beard, i am not a fan of him, maybe i am still angry from the 2007 conference final but still i think he is overrated and agressive and i do not like looking at him with the beard, imagine if you are drew doughty and your linemate is 400 years old with a beard
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 03:10 AM

You know who else is bad for Canada?


"I think a tough team, a team that sticks together, is a lot better than leaving the onus on one guy to take care of business." - Brendan Shanahan

 

It still would be nice to have that one guy.


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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:28 AM

They dont call him Regular Season Joe for nothing.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:45 AM

I remember when Joe Thornton was traded from Boston. Many here wanted to trade Datsyuk for Thornton. Glad that didn't happen?

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:47 AM

QUOTE (Wings_Dynasty @ February 22, 2010 - 03:10AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know who else is bad for Canada?

is that the dude from heroes?
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:03 AM


Thornton is the Canadian version of Marian Hossa.

The entire Sharks line is a problem, problably their worst line because they just play right now like in their usual losing playoff series.
Getzlaf and Crosby lines have been great on the other hand.

The PP has been ridiculous. I don't agree with most Babcock bashers, but one thing is sure: Babcock was not to provide wings (or Canada) solutions to improve PP.
It costed us the Cup last year, and maybe the playoffs this year.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:13 AM

QUOTE (RedWings @ February 22, 2010 - 11:03AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thornton is the Canadian version of Marian Hossa.

The entire Sharks line is a problem, problably their worst line because they just play right now like in their usual losing playoff series.
Getzlaf and Crosby lines have been great on the other hand.

The PP has been ridiculous. I don't agree with most Babcock bashers, but one thing is sure: Babcock was not to provide wings (or Canada) solutions to improve PP.
It costed us the Cup last year, and maybe the playoffs this year.


Stopped reading there.

Hossa is not a playoff choker. Sorry.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:27 AM

QUOTE (Carman @ February 22, 2010 - 12:13PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stopped reading there.

Hossa is not a playoff choker. Sorry.

Its hard to argue the stats on Hossa in the playoffs:

Hossa (Playoffs)- .77 points per game career
Thornton (Playoffs)- .70 points per game career

I would have to say if Thornton is a playoff choker than so is Hossa.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:31 AM

Canada needs an enforcer.

Edited by Shoreline, 22 February 2010 - 11:32 AM.






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