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#21 Carman

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 02:44 PM

As long as he doesn't start spouting to the media again I have no issues with bringing him back.

He's really doing well with Howard, and hopefully still has some goaltending left in the tank from last playoffs and a few of his good game this year.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 02:46 PM

No.
Osgood is still a capable goalie and is more valuable in other areas.
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#23 StevieY9802

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 02:55 PM

They won't buy him out or release him I don't think. He could retire but we'll see on that. I still think he can be solid #2 for this team. Maybe better but it's hard to tell when you can't get him into more than one game because you need the wins so bad.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:49 PM

The playoffs will tell the story and guide me to my opinion.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 06:27 PM

Jimmy has had the benefit of a mentor in Osgood all year. He probably owes some of his "growth" to that fact (like Helm and Drapes). However that being said Osgood as a backup is laughable. He is shaky at best and looks like he doesn't care one way or another when scored on. He might be able to come in and win a few games, but we need to be realistic about if Jimmy can play 70+ games a year, consistently. Babs even said that Ozzie has helped Jimmy in more ways then you can tell. And that right there is our solution.

We will not cut Ozzie, so we're stuck with him. He's a better coach and adviser than player at this point in his career. Ozzie has been great in and for the Wings. Maybe Ozzie can play for a few games next season, go on IR, retire and then everyone wins. Take a page from Malts perhaps. We get more cap space for a goalie/defense and Ozzie gets the farewell he deserves.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:26 PM

Jimmy has had the benefit of a mentor in Osgood all year. He probably owes some of his "growth" to that fact (like Helm and Drapes). However that being said Osgood as a backup is laughable. He is shaky at best and looks like he doesn't care one way or another when scored on. He might be able to come in and win a few games, but we need to be realistic about if Jimmy can play 70+ games a year, consistently. Babs even said that Ozzie has helped Jimmy in more ways then you can tell. And that right there is our solution.

We will not cut Ozzie, so we're stuck with him. He's a better coach and adviser than player at this point in his career. Ozzie has been great in and for the Wings. Maybe Ozzie can play for a few games next season, go on IR, retire and then everyone wins. Take a page from Malts perhaps. We get more cap space for a goalie/defense and Ozzie gets the farewell he deserves.


I agree that Ozzie has been good in a mentoring role for Howard, but I disagree with your assessment of his play, he hasn't been completely useless, though he has not been playing up to his ability when he has gotten the chance.

I still think Osgood has a season or two left in him, and I would like to see him finish his career in Detroit, maybe he can platoon with Howard next year like he did with Conklin last year. I understand why Babcock has played Jimmy as much as he has, it's sink-or-swim time for him and he has stepped up, but now that that has been established, Osgood needs to get a start or two before the playoffs so that he is not completely rusty if we need to call upon him.

Realistically, I do not see the Red Wings waiving him or buying out his contract, loyalty still counts for something in Hockeytown (see Maltby)

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#27 Dominator2005

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:34 PM

Why would you release Ozzie??? If he can accept "new" role on this team he can only help Howard and Detroit... I think that he is/was (always) team player.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:43 PM

I agree that Ozzie has been good in a mentoring role for Howard, but I disagree with your assessment of his play, he hasn't been completely useless, though he has not been playing up to his ability when he has gotten the chance.

I still think Osgood has a season or two left in him, and I would like to see him finish his career in Detroit, maybe he can platoon with Howard next year like he did with Conklin last year. I understand why Babcock has played Jimmy as much as he has, it's sink-or-swim time for him and he has stepped up, but now that that has been established, Osgood needs to get a start or two before the playoffs so that he is not completely rusty if we need to call upon him.

Realistically, I do not see the Red Wings waiving him or buying out his contract, loyalty still counts for something in Hockeytown (see Maltby)



Granted Osgood isn't completely useless, but based on his play this year, he has been sub-par. He always says that he steps up his game come time for the playoffs, except that this year is different. We are on the bubble for a playoff spot, not the division or conference as we've become accustomed to. If the season was different (i.e.-more points, wins, etc) than im fine with Osgood but we dont have that luxury anymore. The Wings have crashed down to reality and the reality that what once was good enough to win a few years ago, isnt even good enough to currently make the playoffs. I have confidence in Jimmy but we need a reliable backup if he falters. How many "Holy s*** Osgood is playing out of his mind" playoff/seasons does he have left? Honestly?

I agree Ozzie will retire a Red Wing, but i just hope that the "rust" Ozzie needs to shake off come the end of the season/start of the postseason happens in 1-2 games. Otherwise the whole city and LGW community will be all over him.



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Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:51 PM

It's just so strange that he goes to the last game of the playoffs two years in a row, but then can't get the starting job in net the subsequent seasons.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:57 PM

WE need another goalie to play some games next year. Howard can't play 82.


Welcome to the playoffs....where the games get better and the officiating gets worse.


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Posted 12 March 2010 - 08:15 PM

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Don't get me started about the Lions QB thing. I know Scott Mitchell, he lives here in Orlando now and I see him at church all the time, and he hates talking about his time in Detroit, says he has never felt so unappreciated in all of his life.

Back to hockey, I am glad that Howard has been able to man up and earn his spot, especially with how shaky Osgood has been this season, and I feel that the starting job is Howard's to lose even going into the playoffs, but it would be completely irresponsible to keep Osgood on the bench completely until then.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 08:16 PM

WE need another goalie to play some games next year. Howard can't play 82.


That's why we have Osgood.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 08:33 PM

F**K that THAT

This is the first time I've ever taken any sort of stance for or againt a goaltender in the "modern=era" of the Red Wings... and I'm *NOT* talking about the years that I used to listen to the game in the third period on a clock radio from my bedside after cub-scout meetings. (DEAD-WINGS ERA)

Chris Osgood has been a solid goal-tender for umpteen years with the Wings, outside of the Wings, and beyond... but the guy is DONE. (if only you could see how hard I punched D O N E)

It's just the way it is...

I love the guy. He was the guy to go to...

I HATED VERNON.
HATED HASEK.

BUT...

Howard needs a chance... he's getting it and he needs a capable backup...
If Osgood doesn't realize that's he's role at this point... well, **** him.

I love this team and hate this team in the same breath because of it's goaltender situation, which has existed for as long as I can remember... if no one else wants to recognize that... SO BE IT.

(hopefully you can all smile when I return to sobriety and excuse this outburst... but it's LONG overdue.)

EDIT: Drunken spelling and the *leep*** of the word THAT
again, I plead for the forgiveness of drunken posting.

Edited by e_prime, 12 March 2010 - 08:45 PM.

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(AtomicPunk @ February 4, 2010 - 12:16AM)

Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 08:57 PM

No.


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Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:14 PM

and where's Legace these days... oh right, keeping Carolina out of the top spot in the draft.

HA HA HA HA HA!!!

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Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:25 PM

F**K that THAT

This is the first time I've ever taken any sort of stance for or againt a goaltender in the "modern=era" of the Red Wings... and I'm *NOT* talking about the years that I used to listen to the game in the third period on a clock radio from my bedside after cub-scout meetings. (DEAD-WINGS ERA)

Chris Osgood has been a solid goal-tender for umpteen years with the Wings, outside of the Wings, and beyond... but the guy is DONE. (if only you could see how hard I punched D O N E)

It's just the way it is...

I love the guy. He was the guy to go to...

I HATED VERNON.
HATED HASEK.


BUT...

Howard needs a chance... he's getting it and he needs a capable backup...
If Osgood doesn't realize that's he's role at this point... well, **** him.

I love this team and hate this team in the same breath because of it's goaltender situation, which has existed for as long as I can remember... if no one else wants to recognize that... SO BE IT.

(hopefully you can all smile when I return to sobriety and excuse this outburst... but it's LONG overdue.)

EDIT: Drunken spelling and the *leep*** of the word THAT
again, I plead for the forgiveness of drunken posting.




How can you be Red Wings fan and "HATE" Red Wings players??? Mystery to me...
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:29 PM

How can you be Red Wings fan and "HATE" Red Wings players??? Mystery to me...


Okay. I never HATED THEM.

...but I've never liked the BUYING of goaltenders.


EDIT: ...and I TOLD YOU I'M DRUNK!

Edited by e_prime, 12 March 2010 - 09:30 PM.

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Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:31 PM

I don't know how we can really judge Osgood's play this season. He's barely had a chance to play and when he has, the team is struggling, which I know isn't an excuse but it's not also a reason to blame him for a loss. I think that the goalie situation this year has been very unfair. I understand Babcock wanting to play the hot goalie, but I know that Ozzie started a couple games and got the win. But did he get the start next game? No. He hasn't had a chance to prove himself and yet everyone is saying he's done.

I think that he has no problem being a mentor to Howard. He's got enough confidence in himself that he'll accept whatever role the Wings want him to take, he may not be happy with it but I'm sure he'll do it because he knows it's best. Ozzie has had a great career with the Wings, but of course everyone only remembers the bad stuff because it's happening right now. I'm proud of him anyway.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:39 PM

I don't know how we can really judge Osgood's play this season. He's barely had a chance to play and when he has, the team is struggling, which I know isn't an excuse but it's not also a reason to blame him for a loss. I think that the goalie situation this year has been very unfair. I understand Babcock wanting to play the hot goalie, but I know that Ozzie started a couple games and got the win. But did he get the start next game? No. He hasn't had a chance to prove himself and yet everyone is saying he's done.



B-O-O H-O-O. This is EXACTLY the time for a Hall of Fame goaltender to pull some solid performances out of his ass. Sitting on it, or otherwise.

Like I said earlier this evening, the puck in is his end. He either makes the save or he doesn't...
(wow, that's a really bad analogy, but how fitting?)

I love Osgood. It's time for him to prove his worth or sit. Plain. Simple. Done.

whatchoo' know about that?!?!?!


(OMG. I'm am going to regret these post tomorrow... and yet... wont' =D

Edited by e_prime, 12 March 2010 - 09:39 PM.

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(AtomicPunk @ February 4, 2010 - 12:16AM)

Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 10:11 PM

B-O-O H-O-O. This is EXACTLY the time for a Hall of Fame goaltender to pull some solid performances out of his ass. Sitting on it, or otherwise.

Like I said earlier this evening, the puck in is his end. He either makes the save or he doesn't...
(wow, that's a really bad analogy, but how fitting?)

I love Osgood. It's time for him to prove his worth or sit. Plain. Simple. Done.

whatchoo' know about that?!?!?!


(OMG. I'm am going to regret these post tomorrow... and yet... wont' =D



Not going to argue with a drunk. But, how exactly can he prove himself when he's not given any chances to actually plays some games consistently. That was my original point, he has not had a chance to play or prove his worth this season.

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