Jaymister 71 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Nasty hit, he saw nothing but numbers the whole way and he hammered him anyway. I love Ovie, but i'm getting really tired of all the dirty hits he dishs out. It doesn't help that the NHL refuses to suspend him no matter what he does. http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=62762 1 zettsyukwall415 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmubronco420 25 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 uh the NHL suspended him ealier this year 1 Jaymister reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 This has already been discussed here: http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63623 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Dont antagonize the Ovechkin fans. Somehow most of them do not understand how this is a dirty hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymister 71 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Dont antagonize the Ovechkin fans. Somehow most of them do not understand how this is a dirty hit. Ovie is my favorite player in the league right now, but you can't look at these things with rose coloured glasses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeygods 2 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 i do think it was a hit deserving of a penalty but not a game misconduct or a suspension there has been far worse hits lately with no such action. I disagree with the refs today 1 Theophany reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Nasty hit, he saw nothing but numbers the whole way and he hammered him anyway. I love Ovie, but i'm getting really tired of all the dirty hits he dishs out. It doesn't help that the NHL refuses to suspend him no matter what he does. http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=62762 Actually he has already been suspended once this year and received a game misconduct today. Dunno where this 'NHL refusal' is that you speak of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Ovie is my favorite player in the league right now, but you can't look at these things with rose coloured glasses. There is no question Ovechkin is probably the best player in the league right now, but he does some pretty stupid stuff. I guess every player has their flaws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymister 71 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Actually he has already been suspended once this year and received a game misconduct today. Dunno where this 'NHL refusal' is that you speak of. I somehow missed or have forgotten about that suspension. I just think he gets away with a lot more than most because he's one of the leagues poster boys. Crybaby also gets away with a lot as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 It's a conspiracy! Ovie WILL receive a suspension just so that Buttman can give Cindy the Ross and Richard trophies. And, probably the Hart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fifey 3 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Even if this wasn't a dirty hit, it's EXACTLY the play that Micky talks about when he says players need to let up and know that they don't have to make the play. Like the Mike Greer almost-hit on Rafalski last night. Ovechkin is a HORRIBLE judge of when he needs to let up and NOT make a hit out of common courtesy to his fellow players. 1 zettsyukwall415 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 It's a dirty hit, but should have only gotten a double minor or just a major. Game misconduct was a bit overboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 If they suspend Ovie and Cooke gets nothing I will be pissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 If they suspend Ovie and Cooke gets nothing I will be pissed. To be fair, Cooke's hit was open-ice and didn't involve his elbow, so there's no rule against it. Ovi was given a major for boarding—which he definitely did—and a game misconduct. There's a huge difference between the two plays when it comes to the rules of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymister 71 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 If they suspend Ovie and Cooke gets nothing I will be pissed. Totally agree with you there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fifey 3 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 If they suspend Ovie and Cooke gets nothing I will be pissed. I'm so sick of hearing this faulty logic. Just because the league f***ed up and didn't suspend Cooke (and their logic there was faulty too) doesn't mean that something like this should be let go without a suspension since it wasn't "as bad". Every fan of hockey should be pissed about the Cooke non-suspension, but that's no reason to say that bad plays later should get the same outcome out of some sense of fairness. The league said no suspension for Cooke because there was no suspension on the Richards hit earlier this season, which is faulty logic since the non-suspension on Richards was a bad call to begin with. Admit that the prior call was bulls*** and start making the right call moving forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 I'm so sick of hearing this faulty logic. Just because the league f***ed up and didn't suspend Cooke (and their logic there was faulty too) doesn't mean that something like this should be let go without a suspension since it wasn't "as bad". Every fan of hockey should be pissed about the Cooke non-suspension, but that's no reason to say that bad plays later should get the same outcome out of some sense of fairness. The league said no suspension for Cooke because there was no suspension on the Richards hit earlier this season, which is faulty logic since the non-suspension on Richards was a bad call to begin with. Admit that the prior call was bulls*** and start making the right call moving forward. There was no suspension on the Cooke hit because there was no penalty on the ice (correctly so). The hit was dirty, but what are they going to suspend him for? You're putting words in the mouth of the NHL, and as much as I don't like Bettman and his cronies, it's unfair of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 There was no suspension on the Cooke hit because there was no penalty on the ice (correctly so). The hit was dirty, but what are they going to suspend him for? You're putting words in the mouth of the NHL, and as much as I don't like Bettman and his cronies, it's unfair of you. Im pretty sure the explanation for not suspending Cooke was it is to similar to the Richards hit. Sure the hit was legal, but they can still suspend him if they want. Cookes hit is a big reason the new rule was set in, so the refs can punish the players on the spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 The "experts" are starting to weigh in on the hit and ejection. Burnside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted March 14, 2010 It's a dirty hit, but should have only gotten a double minor or just a major. Game misconduct was a bit overboard. A major for boarding means an automatic game misconduct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) I'd say it's likely he will be suspended but probably a game or two. Reason is, Cooke's penalty was dirty, but not a penalty, as much as I'd like to have seen his ass fry. This was a clear boarding call that was highly dangerous and, more pertinently, against the rules. It got a major for boarding and Ovechkin was booted from the game. There's really nothing to defend here. The only saving grace from suspension could be that Campbell did get up on his own and Ovechkin missed a huge chunk of the game when he was ejected. And cjm502, given there's a collective bargaining agreement and legal technicalities are involved, the NHL would never win with executing a rule in ex post facto like that. So no, they can't suspend Cooke still if they want. Edited March 14, 2010 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 OK. Here's why he won't get a suspension. another "expert" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 Wow, I'm all for phyiscal play but yet another example unfortuantely of needing to learn when to let up. 1 zettsyukwall415 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) To be fair, Cooke's hit was open-ice and didn't involve his elbow, so there's no rule against it. Ovi was given a major for boarding—which he definitely did—and a game misconduct. There's a huge difference between the two plays when it comes to the rules of the game. The biggest problem I had with the bulls*** Cooke non-suspension is that he's known around the league for his dirty head-shots and is always taking liberties with other players. On top of that the hit itself was incredibly dirty-- whether there's a rule for it or not doesn't make the hit any more reasonable. And yes, you can suspend someone for something they didn't get penalized for on the ice! Given that this is Ovi's second boarding suspension I think he deserves a game suspension even though the Cooke non-suspension is complete horses***. Edit According to Puck Daddy the repeat offender thing isn't a concern: When a player or goalkeeper has played in 41 consecutive regular League games without being assessed a boarding and/or a checking from behind major and a game misconduct according to Rules 42 and 44, he will have the previous game misconduct penalties removed from his current record. They will remain part of his historical record. Edited March 15, 2010 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites