72 replies to this topic

[Shoreline]

I'd say it's likely he will be suspended but probably a game or two.

Reason is, Cooke's penalty was dirty, but not a penalty, as much as I'd like to have seen his ass fry. This was a clear boarding call that was highly dangerous and, more pertinently, against the rules. It got a major for boarding and Ovechkin was booted from the game. There's really nothing to defend here. The only saving grace from suspension could be that Campbell did get up on his own and Ovechkin missed a huge chunk of the game when he was ejected.

And cjm502, given there's a collective bargaining agreement and legal technicalities are involved, the NHL would never win with executing a rule in ex post facto like that. So no, they can't suspend Cooke still if they want.

Edited by Shoreline, 14 March 2010 - 04:01 PM.

[jollymania]

[Marty Barry]

OK. Here's why he won't get a suspension.

another "expert"

[SouthernWingsFan]

Wow, I'm all for phyiscal play but yet another example unfortuantely of needing to learn when to let up.

[Drake_Marcus]

To be fair, Cooke's hit was open-ice and didn't involve his elbow, so there's no rule against it.

Ovi was given a major for boarding—which he definitely did—and a game misconduct. There's a huge difference between the two plays when it comes to the rules of the game.

The biggest problem I had with the bulls*** Cooke non-suspension is that he's known around the league for his dirty head-shots and is always taking liberties with other players. On top of that the hit itself was incredibly dirty-- whether there's a rule for it or not doesn't make the hit any more reasonable. And yes, you can suspend someone for something they didn't get penalized for on the ice!

Given that this is Ovi's second boarding suspension I think he deserves a game suspension even though the Cooke non-suspension is complete horses***.

Edit
According to Puck Daddy the repeat offender thing isn't a concern:

When a player or goalkeeper has played in 41 consecutive regular League games without being assessed a boarding and/or a checking from behind major and a game misconduct according to Rules 42 and 44, he will have the previous game misconduct penalties removed from his current record. They will remain part of his historical record.

Edited by Drake_Marcus, 14 March 2010 - 07:30 PM.

[pockets]

i see alot off people saying that Ovie should be the face of the league not Sid.

here is the question who do you want to rep the NHL if your the boss you've got

Ovie: Great player arugably the best but he tends to have lapses in judgement and he doesnt always show concern for other players. Some ppl even say he is borderline dirty

Sid: another great player but he is a bit of a whiner and he doesnt always show respect for other players

and youve got to remember you have to attract new fans so i really dont think at this point in both their careers neither is the optimal choice to market

So i say Bettman should market Lebda. Lebda action figures FTW

[toby91_ca]

Didn't someone recently get a 4 game suspension for essentially the identical play? Can't remember who.

[Pens Guy]

Didn't someone recently get a 4 game suspension for essentially the identical play? Can't remember who.

Yeah it was Lapierre of the Canadians.

And I think there is a rule that if someone gets 2 major boarding calls in season, they are automatically suspended one game. And OVy already has a major boarding call this year for that hit on Kaleta.

[HanKarin40]

Didn't someone recently get a 4 game suspension for essentially the identical play? Can't remember who.

I think you are referring to the hit on Scott Nichol by Maxim Lapierre. The same thing came to mind when I saw Ovie's hit on Campbell. Very identical. I don't have a problem with Ovie getting tossed or a suspension, but there was no call made in game on Lapierre. This league seriously has to get it's s*** together and start being consistent in the penalties that are called. Geez

[GMRwings1983]

i see alot off people saying that Ovie should be the face of the league not Sid.

here is the question who do you want to rep the NHL if your the boss you've got

Ovie: Great player arugably the best but he tends to have lapses in judgement and he doesnt always show concern for other players. Some ppl even say he is borderline dirty

Sid: another great player but he is a bit of a whiner and he doesnt always show respect for other players

and youve got to remember you have to attract new fans so i really dont think at this point in both their careers neither is the optimal choice to market

So i say Bettman should market Lebda. Lebda action figures FTW

They should market Stamkos if he continues this meteoric rise.

[pockets]

They should market Stamkos if he continues this meteoric rise.

I think Stamkos would work or maybe even Tavares

as a side note you see Stamkos hit on Cooke

Edited by pockets, 14 March 2010 - 08:51 PM.

[edicius]

OK. Here's why he won't get a suspension.

another "expert"

Intriguing technicality.

And we all know how selective the league can be when it comes to "automatic" suspensions...

[Howard He Do It?!]

Intriguing technicality.

And we all know how selective the league can be when it comes to "automatic" suspensions...

Automatic Suspensions:
See the "Malkin Rule"

[Original-Six]

It doesn't help that the NHL refuses to suspend him no matter what he does.

lolwut?

I think that would be Malkin. Hes untouchable.



+ the no suspension for the instigator rule among other things

[Drake_Marcus]

Didn't someone recently get a 4 game suspension for essentially the identical play? Can't remember who.

Yeah, but that player wasn't the best player in the league. Ovi is. And if there's one thing we know about the NHL is that they have a two-tiered system.

Intriguing technicality.

And we all know how selective the league can be when it comes to "automatic" suspensions...

Did you read the article? It lists the rule that states Ovi can't have the auto-suspension applied to him because the infraction occurred more than 41 games apart.

Also, am I the only guy who remembers how many extremely dangerous and highly irresponsible hits Messier did? The NHL named a frigging leadership award after him based solely on his famous NY Cup promise and have completely ignored how dirty he was.

[puckhog419]

I don't believe it was a dirty hit, but it wasn't necessary from that spot on the ice. Ovechkin is a big guy and uses his weight but he needs to know that he could end someone's career with one hard hit like that.

[Original-Six]

Also, am I the only guy who remembers how many extremely dangerous and highly irresponsible hits Messier did? The NHL named a frigging leadership award after him based solely on his famous NY Cup promise and have completely ignored how dirty he was.

Funny how its the exact same hits Cooke makes.

[Carman]

Now let's all be real. Anyone remember this?

[Yzerfan1999]

TSN reporting the Campbell is DONE for the season. Broken clavicle and ribs. Wonder if that will have any bearing on a suspension.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=314096

[Off the Post]

Actually he has already been suspended once this year and received a game misconduct today. Dunno where this 'NHL refusal' is that you speak of.

Now Malkin in the playoffs last season , THAT was a "refusal" that is still hilarious to think about...