NHL's most and least valuable players

#21 Crymson

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 10:51 AM

Whoever wrote up that list apparently doesn't watch hockey.

That said, I always get a kick out of how some people here treat opinions from articles as if they proverbially came from above.

Edited by Crymson, 18 March 2010 - 10:53 AM.

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#22 F.Michael

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 11:09 AM

Disagree. Stuart has been solid this season.

Agreed.

He was solid just before the Christmas break; then his rough stretch there for a few months; now he's getting back to how he played earlier this season.

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#23 Kira

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 11:29 AM

You know, this reminds me of the age-old statement..."there are lies, there are damned lies, and then there are statistics."

#24 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 12:51 PM

i'm not really a scotty neidermayer fan, but him accompanying stuart on that list shows just how credible the list is...that being not at all.

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Tootoo needs a partner in crime that plays like him on the other side of Helm. Oh hey, we have Mitchell Callahan. Problem solved.

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#25 Inultus

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 02:32 PM

Lidstrom's PP impact should be way higher than that.

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#26 titanium2

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 02:37 PM

Anyone who can actually watch the game of hockey knows better than what that POS says. He's made mistakes but overall the positives completely outweigh the negatives.

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#27 RedWings Gone Wild

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 04:01 PM

i'm not really a scotty neidermayer fan, but him accompanying stuart on that list shows just how credible the list is...that being not at all.

This is simply looking at how the player does compared to his teammates (only considering those who have played in most of the games this season). I've stated why Stuart is at a disadvantage in that kind of a comparison (weaker teammates than normal, ice-time in situations that are likelier to lead to goals, etc.)... Obviously Stuart would have far better numbers by being on the ice with his normal linemates like Kronwall, Flip, Williams, etc, who can actually score on occasion, but this is a rational analysis of the numbers, many people are acting like the author simply made things up or distorted the numbers.

Consider, Neidermayer is the LOWEST duck in +/-... which is a very telling stat considering he's normally on the ice with Anaheim's more offensively productive players. Neids is one of the best D-men of the past 20 years, but he's had a pretty poor season. Now, he's still far more valuable than someone like Wisniewski, and I don't think the obviousness of that is lost on the author.

Edited by RedWings Gone Wild, 18 March 2010 - 04:05 PM.