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#61 hotwings24

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 11:20 PM

A) goaltenders are always road hard, in here there is a contrast.. people that like howard, people that Like osgood. honestly, the best thing i can say is, its better to see what happens for the rest season, thenl to sit back worried about who is gonna do what. Babcock had a reason for not playing osgood, that is aparent, remember who the coach is here and why they are put in the coaching position.

Coaches know whats best for their hockey clubs or they wouldnt be coaches. isnt that a fact? Babcock has proven in past seasons he is a good coach.
and before we sing kumbaya to one goaltender or another lets see in an experiment as to who faulters and who doesnt. the tell tale heart here will be.

is it youth and vigar or being a veteran , and having a not so good season? either or could be considered a toss up. one is starting, one is benchwarming. I say do our best to support the team, and well, let babcock do his job, we arent all pro hockey coach's so lets just work with what we have on this.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 11:50 PM

I love Ozzie. But Howard is a Calder candidate for a reason...

And IMO was a big part of tonights win with some timely saves today.

The rebound control is my only knock on Howie, but even that has been a bit better lately. He is winning games, and playing well.

Until he shows otherwise I say keep him in.

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#63 F.Michael

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 11:50 PM

Why does everyone assume this? He hasn't yet and no one knows what he is capable of.

How many "rookies" (granted he played in the AHL for 4 years) can keep up his pace?

I hope I'm wrong, but I get a feeling that he could have some trouble by the end of the reg season/early playoffs.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 11:54 PM

How many "rookies" (granted he played in the AHL for 4 years) can keep up his pace?

I hope I'm wrong, but I get a feeling that he could have some trouble by the end of the reg season/early playoffs.

At this point getting Ozzie game ready would be just as tough to deal with as Jimmy burning out...

I would rather get to the playoffs and lose in the first round than miss the playoffs entirely. As long as Howard continues this the playoffs will PROBABLY happen. Howard burning out or fazing Ozzie in now would both make it tougher.

Don't fix what isn't broken.

And right now Jimmy Howard is sure as heck not broken

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 11:57 PM

ppl here are overreacting.
Crosby’s frustration level seemed to reach a boiling point in the final seconds, leading to him cross-checking Zetterberg in the back in front of Detroit goaltender Jimmy Howard(notes).

“I knew it was him without turning around,” Zetterberg said.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:03 AM

At this point getting Ozzie game ready would be just as tough to deal with as Jimmy burning out...

I would rather get to the playoffs and lose in the first round than miss the playoffs entirely. As long as Howard continues this the playoffs will PROBABLY happen. Howard burning out or fazing Ozzie in now would both make it tougher.

Don't fix what isn't broken.

And right now Jimmy Howard is sure as heck not broken

Well I agree; we gotta ride Howard now since he's in a "groove", and trying to get Ozzie going may end up costing us a few games...Sorta damned if we do, and damned if we don't.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:07 AM

At this point getting Ozzie game ready would be just as tough to deal with as Jimmy burning out...

If not more.

I thought being the Wings goalie was a tough job, you guys are abusing Babcock over this. There's talk about him getting an Adams nomination (though no one says he'll win) for coaching this team through the injuries that marred the first half of the season... but he's a hack who can't work with this team. God, Wings fans are spoiled brats.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:10 AM

I hope Ozzie doesn't play next game, with Max Talbot coming back to the Joe.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:16 AM

I hope Ozzie doesn't play next game, with Max Talbot coming back to the Joe.


Considering he only scored on Osgood three times in the both series I'm not worried.

And also considering Osgood won't be playing in the Pittsburgh game I'm not worried.

Osgood will likely play a game against Columbus when the Wings have enough breathing room to where they can afford to lose a game. And the Jackets are awful against Detroit.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:18 AM

Honestly, I don't take anything you say about Ozzie seriously.

You bashed him all last year during the regular season, disappeared in the playoffs, and shockingly are back now to continue the act.


Last year in the playoffs he wasn't terrible night in and night out.... he wasn't bad enough to lose a game on his own. Which for Osgood is the most he's ever been able to give in his career. He's won cups as an adequate goaltender, not a bad deal really. But I dare say like so many before him time has erroded what limited skill was there.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 04:01 AM

http://freep.com/art...ing-mentor-role

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 08:39 AM

Last year in the playoffs he wasn't terrible night in and night out.... he wasn't bad enough to lose a game on his own. Which for Osgood is the most he's ever been able to give in his career. He's won cups as an adequate goaltender, not a bad deal really. But I dare say like so many before him time has erroded what limited skill was there.

No credit at all for 2008 playoffs either? Yeesh...

And pretty much everybody in here is in agreement that his play overall hasn't been good this year and giving kudos to Howard for taking the job and running with it when Osgood was out with the flu.

The Wings unfortuntaely don't have the luxury this year of comfortably being in the playoffs way ahead of time and giving both goalies roughly equal starts to sort out any kinks. Could Osgood have helped more in that regard? Sure, but there were other factors like an absurd amount of injuries.

That doesn't make Osgood any less of a goaltender, and that article link is a great example of it.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 08:58 AM

Re: Osgood rumours.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:49 AM

Last year in the playoffs he wasn't terrible night in and night out.... he wasn't bad enough to lose a game on his own. Which for Osgood is the most he's ever been able to give in his career. He's won cups as an adequate goaltender, not a bad deal really. But I dare say like so many before him time has erroded what limited skill was there.


Please, try to be rational at least somewhat.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:56 AM

People need to chill. we have had some wonderful seasons, and have been very spoiled as hockey fans. sometimes we have to lose. live and die with the team, isnt that what makes a true hockey fan? or is that idea dead and gone? goaltenders have a hard time and often get ridden during the playoffs ect. now as for this whole situation, lets hide and watch, cause who knows? Lets remember not to get our panties in a twist - to stay calm, and if we dont win this season so what! we have had some awesome seasons as fans, ones I will never forget. :)

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:06 PM

People need to chill. we have had some wonderful seasons, and have been very spoiled as hockey fans. sometimes we have to lose. live and die with the team, isnt that what makes a true hockey fan? or is that idea dead and gone? goaltenders have a hard time and often get ridden during the playoffs ect. now as for this whole situation, lets hide and watch, cause who knows? Lets remember not to get our panties in a twist - to stay calm, and if we dont win this season so what! we have had some awesome seasons as fans, ones I will never forget. :)


I was thinking that earlier this season but the Wings are just teasing us hanging around in 8th place. This is killing me. I don't want to see the streak end. If we were in St. Louis's position right now I wouldn't care but we are hanging in there and I really hate the flames and don't want them to make the playoffs over us.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:45 PM

How can he can be inconsistent when he hasn't played? And earlier this season when he strung together some wins, Babs still went with Jimmy.


I think the reason he had to go back to Howard was because of the whatnots.

I'm hoping Howard has what it takes to tough it out the rest of the way. Obviously it's him we're riding. If not shame on Babcock for not getting both ready for the finale run.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:02 PM

On the CBC broadcast they thought it was reall odd that he sat in the lockerroom watching the game and not on the bench on the backup keeper chair... :unsure:

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:16 PM

you got to ask the question as to why Oz goes from his post season form to his reg season form with such a dip in standards? we haven't got the depth on the roster to let Oz play himself into a groove, he isn't playing for a reason and Babs and Holland know they can't take a chance on him taking 5-8 games to get into game shape. We wouldn't be in the running for 8th spot if he didn't start to perform straight away. Howard has been lucky in some games not to let in more than he did, but hey you make your own luck. He is getting it done and its Babs call, after all its Babs job on the line if the Wings don't make the post season, what would any of you do? Oz will be doing the +- stats for me for the next 6 games at least.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:20 PM

You guys are overeacting so much, Howard is a goalie in the Nhl, he will only get better if he plays more game, he is our future in net and is looking very promising.

Would you guys seriously trust Osgood right now when calgarys breathing down our neck?

Please, try to be rational at least somewhat.

If the Red Wings won Game 7, the Conn Smythe was easily going to Chris Osgood.


Osgood wasnt amazing last year in the playoffs he made the saves he needed to make. and our D cleared his thousands of rebounds.





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