mikl657 2 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 I was thinking the other day, if howard makes a deep run in the playoffs, wins the calder, and produces simlar numbers next year, you guys think we will be able to afford him when it comes time to resign him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 I think Howard would take a necessary discount to stay here if he needed to. Assuming he keeps up this kind of play, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would ditch this organization that's spent so much developing him and putting their trust in him for some extra money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevieisthebest 80 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 I was thinking about this too, I hope not. But I could see it happening, I think he is going to be a great goalie in this league for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikl657 2 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 I think Howard would take a necessary discount to stay here if he needed to. Assuming he keeps up this kind of play, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would ditch this organization that's spent so much developing him and putting their trust in him for some extra money. lets sign him to a 15 year contract? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Roman Czechmanek and Dan Cloutier say hi as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 I could see Holland using some of the money that will come of Lids' next contract (if it comes) to lock down Howard, assuming next year is as good/better than this year. We also have Larsson and McCollum developing in the minors, so it will be interesting to see how Holland manages the three of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Assuming that he's not a one year wonder, they'll pay whatever they need to short of some obscene amount. This guy has been touted through the organization forever as their goaltender of the future. If he pans out, there's no way the Wings would dump someone who they've spent so many years developing. There's a lot of places the money could come from, one of them being Lidstrom. I believe Howard is signed next year, so we're talking about in two years. There should be some extra money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 The name Jim Carey comes to mind...And no - I don't mean the comedian/actor. Agreed. But that's why I'm glad of three things about this situation: 1. Howard isn't up for until next summer-- he'll have to do just as well next year. 2. Howard will be an RFA (I believe) 3. Ken Holland is the best GM in the NHL. 4 Wings_Fan_In_Exile, RedKellyFan, Lidstrom for life and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) Sign him to a long term contract after this year to 2-3 mil for 4 yrs. His value may go up on the open market after next season. Edited March 29, 2010 by RedWingsRox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Agreed. But that's why I'm glad of three things about this situation: 1. Howard isn't up for until next summer-- he'll have to do just as well next year. 2. Howard will be an RFA (I believe) 3. Ken Holland is the best GM in the NHL. Howard will be a UFA after next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godwings19 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) The name Jim Carey comes to mind...And no - I don't mean the comedian/actor. thing is that jim carey was a one year wonder... look what happened to him when he got the big contract... the money for howard will come when lidstrom and rafalski retire... Edited March 29, 2010 by godwings19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Howard will be a UFA after next season. Ouch. Well if he has a measurably good playoffs this spring and puts up good numbers next year then he'll be re-signed accordingly. IMO, this would be a nice problem to be facing in one year's time. It would mean that Jimmy has 100% established himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 He's gotta continue to play as good as he is thru the playoffs, and throughout next season if Howard's gonna get a decent raise...We don't need to be Chicago part deux with an overpaid/worthless netminder on the Red Wings payroll. It's all a bit of crapshoot. If you wait too long and he does prove himself in playoffs AND next season, then you'll have to up the ante. If you offer him something after this season and you think the kid's got what it takes, you may get a Ozzie like (younger days) goalie for under market value and spend more on your D and forwards. So, what's it going to be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Eh, I just want to enjoy watching him while he's here. The Wings will cross that bridge when they come to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Howard will be a UFA after next season. Bah, same diff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakKy 58 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 The Wings have a great history of signing their RFA's and young UFA's to great semi-long/ long term deals that pan out. I think that whatever Holland chooses is the right move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted March 29, 2010 lol just don't worry about it it's not like he's gonna get 3million after one or two good years 1 Drake_Marcus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings 79 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 He won't get much I guess the guy is already very happy that the Wings made him a #1 goaltender. Last offseason instead of Bertuzzi / Williams we could have taken another Conklin... We gave the guy a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Danny 155 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Last offseason instead of Bertuzzi / Williams we could have taken another Conklin... We gave the guy a chance. I'm hoping this is as true in his mind as it is in ours. He did spend years upon years in our development system, finally got his shot and took advantage of it like a stud. This is pure speculation, but I have to imagine that he's happy to be in Detroit given his trajectory. As our "goalie of the future" for so many years in GR, I'm fairly certain he could've raised a big enough stink by age 25 to get traded had he really wanted to. Another year like this, and he'll be due a hefty raise, but, given the speculation above, I don't anticipate hotly contested negotiations. I'm hoping he'll get the lowish end of his market value and not dicker...which will still be a heck of a lot more than Ozzy has made recently, but likely worth it if he avoids the sophomore slump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icesurfer 75 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Wings are going to have a few good goalies in the next few years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikl657 2 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 also we have hudler coming off his khl contract the same time howard would need a contract too, should be interesting the next 2 years, I just hope we keep miller/eaves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) He will stay but Holland isnt going to low ball him either they both know about the Cap situation here in the D, plus im sure Howard has alot of friends on this team being here for so long already. 750k id offer him 6.5mill/3yrs 2.16mill a season or something. thats if they go short term with him. but you never know Kenny like throwing these long term deals out to. how about a 7 year deal, lock him up until hes 33, which i wouldn't mind ive always liked Howard and even more now because of this season and i think he is only going to get better. 7yrs/24.5mill/3.5 per season seems like alot from his 750k but im sure if he has this type of season next year alot of teams would be willing to offer even more. With or goalie struggles lately it seems we have found a answer in Howie this is if he is a RFA not sure if he is or isnt Edited March 29, 2010 by king_malice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 He will stay but Holland isnt going to low ball him either they both know about the Cap situation here in the D, plus im sure Howard has alot of friends on this team being here for so long already. 750k id offer him 6.5mill/3yrs 2.16mill a season or something. thats if they go short term with him. but you never know Kenny like throwing these long term deals out to. how about a 7 year deal, lock him up until hes 33, which i wouldn't mind ive always liked Howard and even more now because of this season and i think he is only going to get better. 7yrs/24.5mill/3.5 per season seems like alot from his 750k but im sure if he has this type of season next year alot of teams would be willing to offer even more. With or goalie struggles lately it seems we have found a answer in Howie this is if he is a RFA not sure if he is or isnt 7 years is a very, very, very long time to lock any goalie up. It's even more dangerous if the goalie has only two years of NHL work to base your decision on. At 3.5 million it'd be impossible to move him unless he was putting up true #1 goalie numbers. If you're going to commit to a goalie for that long of a term with such a small body of evidence you better get a better deal than that or have some very confident talent analysis done. I like your short-term deal better based on where Howie is now. If he plays like he is now for the next year I'd be far more confident paying him more and/or giving a longer term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) I hope he respects the fact that the staff believed in him and gave him this chance to be what he is right now. Who wouldn't wanna play here for a small discount? edit: AND yes, I wouldn't probably lock him up long-term, unless he puts up the same numbers next season. Howard wasn't a top prospect like Rask and Mason. I think we'll have to see if he's just overachieving this season. Edited March 29, 2010 by Finnish Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
