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#41 eva unit zero

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 12:09 AM

You guys are all dreaming.

Franzen - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Bertuzzi - Zetterberg - Filppula
Hudler - Helm - Cleary
Miller - Abdelkader - Eaves
Draper

Lidstrom - Rafalski
Kronwall - Stuart
Lilja - Ericsson
Kindl

Howard
Osgood


Let's look at this lineup from a cap hit perspective. Oh, and we're adding Ritola because he's out of options.

14 skaters currently signed for a $43,662,876 cap hit.
F: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filppula, Hudler, Cleary, Draper
D: Rafalski, Stuart, Kronwall, Ericsson, Kindl
G: Osgood, Howard

So add RFA contract deals for:
The next four are all PK specialists receiving small raises
Helm ($1m)
Miller ($750k)
Abdelkader ($1m)
Eaves (1m, his raise is likely slightly bigger than the other three due to his buyout ending)
Ritola (650k, minor raise pluse a promotion to the NHL)

and UFA deals for
Holmstrom ($2m, he'll probably take a paycut if he doesn't retire)
Bertuzzi ($2.5m, as he'll want some thing more than $1.5m because his buyout is ending - He is making $3m this season, half from the Ducks.)
Lidstrom ($4.5m tops to allow for more cap space)
Lilja (1m, if not less assuming he doesn't retire due to injuries)

Let's see how that adds up.

Overall, with these numbers, it goes over the cap by $363k. Without Ritola, obviously it does not. Probably some players' cap hits will be different to a degree, but the overall should be fairly similar if you try and keep all of these players. It's likely only one of Bertuzzi and Holmstrom return, which would solve the cap issue quickly and easily.

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 03:07 PM

Why is everybody so intent on having Hudler back? i dont think thats what we need. i think that abdelkader should train hard this off season and bring him up to atleast the 3rd line. I think he has amazing potential, hes so young, has so much heart and is such a great defensive forward.

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 03:52 PM

Why is everybody so intent on having Hudler back? i dont think thats what we need. i think that abdelkader should train hard this off season and bring him up to atleast the 3rd line. I think he has amazing potential, hes so young, has so much heart and is such a great defensive forward.

Don't tell people on here that Hudler isn't what we need.Just a warning from experience.but i agree with you.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 09:59 PM


Let's look at this lineup from a cap hit perspective. Oh, and we're adding Ritola because he's out of options.

14 skaters currently signed for a $43,662,876 cap hit.
F: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filppula, Hudler, Cleary, Draper
D: Rafalski, Stuart, Kronwall, Ericsson, Kindl
G: Osgood, Howard

So add RFA contract deals for:
The next four are all PK specialists receiving small raises
Helm ($1m)
Miller ($750k)
Abdelkader ($1m)
Eaves (1m, his raise is likely slightly bigger than the other three due to his buyout ending)
Ritola (650k, minor raise pluse a promotion to the NHL)

and UFA deals for
Holmstrom ($2m, he'll probably take a paycut if he doesn't retire)
Bertuzzi ($2.5m, as he'll want some thing more than $1.5m because his buyout is ending - He is making $3m this season, half from the Ducks.)
Lidstrom ($4.5m tops to allow for more cap space)
Lilja (1m, if not less assuming he doesn't retire due to injuries)

Let's see how that adds up.

Overall, with these numbers, it goes over the cap by $363k. Without Ritola, obviously it does not. Probably some players' cap hits will be different to a degree, but the overall should be fairly similar if you try and keep all of these players. It's likely only one of Bertuzzi and Holmstrom return, which would solve the cap issue quickly and easily.


no way lid signs for 4.5, at least 5.5 if not 6

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 09:04 PM

I'd keep Lilja for around $1m. trade Kronwall for a second line scorer. buyout or trade both Ozzie and Draper.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:14 AM

no way lid signs for 4.5, at least 5.5 if not 6

How stupid are you 6 mil for lids at most it will be 5
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Posted 04 May 2010 - 11:51 AM

Why would you want Lilja back???

I say go after R def who can play on 2nd PP unit. Boychuk would be GREAT addition to this team.
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Posted 04 May 2010 - 11:33 PM

i no one lose JASON F***ING WILLIAMS

But I must be off, I have some jerking off to do. Oh btw I like to consider myself extremely attractive and am proud of myself for being your intellectual superior as I am going to UofM next year, and I am a better hockey player than Crosby.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 02:23 AM

i no one lose JASON F***ING WILLIAMS

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 04:08 PM

How stupid are you 6 mil for lids at most it will be 5



I think your being a little niave, I believe lids is tied for points as defensemen in these playoffs so far and is leading the goals category too I believe (if not top 3), he still is one of the top defensemen in the league and I think 6 million would be reasonable considering that gives us some breathing room.. 4.5-5 would be a insult





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Posted 08 May 2010 - 04:13 PM

Lids leads in pts and goals.
But i do hope, that he will stay for about 5 mil.
If he wants to play for another SC, he will accept a lower salary!

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 01:12 AM

Yzerman, like Lidstrom, was a pimp still in his final days. Put up decent numbers, nowhere near as good as before, and was a playoff contributor. He also took quite a salary reduction in his last season here to help the team. Lidstrom is born from the same cloth, as in he'll put his team first and do what's best to make sure he can play with some of the best players. The guys is filthy rich, and will always have a job waiting in the NHL after he retires. I'm not say we would start out offering this, but I could honestly see Lids taking as low as 2 million for a 1 year contract.

Boom. Roasted.

Does anyone else like the idea of us possibly picking up a Lombardi from the UFA market? I think he'd be just what we need on our 3rd line. Energy!

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 09:59 AM

I'd keep Lilja for around $1m. trade Kronwall for a second line scorer. buyout or trade both Ozzie and Draper.


And don't forget, trade Hank, Dats, Hudler, Howard, and Franzen for Ovechkin. Washington might go for that deal, although it is in favor of Detroit.
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Posted 10 May 2010 - 03:21 PM

And don't forget, trade Hank, Dats, Hudler, Howard, and Franzen for Ovechkin. Washington might go for that deal, although it is in favor of Detroit.

Yeah but can you think of this power first unit?

Ovechkin-Filppula-Holmstrom

Rafalski-Stuart

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 01:31 AM

Yzerman, like Lidstrom, was a pimp still in his final days. Put up decent numbers, nowhere near as good as before, and was a playoff contributor. He also took quite a salary reduction in his last season here to help the team. Lidstrom is born from the same cloth, as in he'll put his team first and do what's best to make sure he can play with some of the best players. The guys is filthy rich, and will always have a job waiting in the NHL after he retires. I'm not say we would start out offering this, but I could honestly see Lids taking as low as 2 million for a 1 year contract.

Boom. Roasted.

Does anyone else like the idea of us possibly picking up a Lombardi from the UFA market? I think he'd be just what we need on our 3rd line. Energy!


Yeah I would go for Lombardi. Imagine a line of Helm Mursac and Lombardi! = Mad speed. He would be great for the third line. Scoring depth baby! Not to say those three should be on the third line.

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 01:39 AM

Hey if Nick retires, Kubina is a UFA. Hes not a replacement for his abilities but for a free pick up, he aint bad!

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 04:44 AM

What about this roster?

FORWARDS
Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
* Todd Bertuzzi ($2.000m) / * Tomas Holmstrom ($2.000m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m)
* Darren Helm ($1.000m) / * Drew Miller ($1.000m) / * Patrick Eaves ($1.000m)
* Justin Abdelkader ($0.800m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
* Anton Volchenkov ($3.300m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
* Nicklas Lidstrom ($2.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER: 22; PAYROLL: $56.763m; CAP ROOM: $0.037m BONUSES: $0.000m

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 02:41 PM

What about this roster?

FORWARDS
Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
* Todd Bertuzzi ($2.000m) / * Tomas Holmstrom ($2.000m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m)
* Darren Helm ($1.000m) / * Drew Miller ($1.000m) / * Patrick Eaves ($1.000m)
* Justin Abdelkader ($0.800m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
* Anton Volchenkov ($3.300m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
* Nicklas Lidstrom ($2.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER: 22; PAYROLL: $56.763m; CAP ROOM: $0.037m BONUSES: $0.000m

Replace Drew Miller with Shawn Thornton and replace Anton Volchenkov with Sheldon Brookbank.Highly doubt Lidstrom would take 2 mil.
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Posted 13 May 2010 - 04:03 PM

Replace Drew Miller with Shawn Thornton and replace Anton Volchenkov with Sheldon Brookbank.Highly doubt Lidstrom would take 2 mil.


I don't understand why it is so hard to believe that Lidstrom "may" take 2 million for a 1 year contract being this close to retirement. Yzerman did the same thing, if memory serves right, I believe Yzerman only made 1 million in his final season. And we would have payed him 5 million to stay I'm sure. Hell, I think he only made around 2 million the year before his last season.

If Lidstrom taking less money means the team will be more competitive, he will.

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 04:16 PM

2 mil for Lids?? No way!

Lids still plays on a high level. And he has played the most minutes per game!
Yzerman played limited icetime in his last years. So you canīt compare this!

I hope, that Lids will resign. 4 - 4,5 mill would be nice!





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