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#21 VM1138

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:57 PM

Pretty sure most 3rd/4th line players would play a lot better on a line with Gagne and Briere, rather than on a teams 3rd and 4th lines. I don't regret letting Leino go whatsoever. Put Drew Miller on a line with Gagne and Briere and I guarantee his production goes way up.


Yeah, I would imagine Miller would do better than Leino is if he were given the chance. Any reasonably talented scorer could score with two start linemates. Especially since they were two assists.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:34 AM

This.


why do people respond with just "this." in some posts when they're quoting people??

it's starting to annoy the hell out of me... you're not saying anything of value in your post! at least add something else... like a small "somewhat insightful" sentence or fragment... (that's not "THIS")

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:37 AM

Leino will never be more that a 20 pt scorer in this league - and you can quote me on this... his work ethic and effort are just not there and I'd be surprised if he was even in the NHL in 2 years from now.

On even a healthy Philly team, he's a bottom guy at best...

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:50 AM

Leino will never be more that a 20 pt scorer in this league - and you can quote me on this... his work ethic and effort are just not there and I'd be surprised if he was even in the NHL in 2 years from now.

On even a healthy Philly team, he's a bottom guy at best...

You didn't see Jussi Jokinen play with the Lightning? If you have lost your confidence it affects your game greatly. I'm not saying he will do something. But to say that something like that won't be possible is just stupid.

I dunno why he was able to put up 9 points in 13 games last season.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:53 AM

why do people respond with just "this." in some posts when they're quoting people??

it's starting to annoy the hell out of me... you're not saying anything of value in your post! at least add something else... like a small "somewhat insightful" sentence or fragment... (that's not "THIS")

Thanks! :)


THIS!

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:00 AM

Since going to the Flyers, Leino has really picked up his pace - he's been scoring at 125% the points per game as Daniel Carcillo. Very impressive indeed.
"It was pretty interesting," said Detroit coach Mike Babcock. "We had May in exhibition for a couple of games and no one gets hacked or whacked. When we don't have him, we get run. We don't have a team that twists off helmets at stoppages. You get tired of seeing it all the time. It's just nice when you get someone to look after that stuff."

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:06 AM

You didn't see Jussi Jokinen play with the Lightning? If you have lost your confidence it affects your game greatly. I'm not saying he will do something. But to say that something like that won't be possible is just stupid.

I dunno why he was able to put up 9 points in 13 games last season.

Leino is not half the player Jokinen is... and TB was HORRENDOUS... bad comparison.

Anything is possible, I could all of a sudden train insanely, work with a strength and conditioning coach and work my way to a walk on try out and in 4 years from now be a 32 year old rookie in the league and win the Calder... is it likely - not one freaking bit.

Leino is not an NHL top 6 player, if he was, he wouldn't have needed to have been "given a chance" - he would have taken it.

Save this topic as a favorite and I'll eat crow if I'm wrong and call you the all-being, ever genius, prophet.

Leino will never be more than a 20 pt scorer in the NHL.

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


Holland is a damn good GM. period.


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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:16 AM

do you think the flyers will take Datsyuk for Leino straight up?

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 05:19 PM

Leino is not half the player Jokinen is... and TB was HORRENDOUS... bad comparison.

Anything is possible, I could all of a sudden train insanely, work with a strength and conditioning coach and work my way to a walk on try out and in 4 years from now be a 32 year old rookie in the league and win the Calder... is it likely - not one freaking bit.

Leino is not an NHL top 6 player, if he was, he wouldn't have needed to have been "given a chance" - he would have taken it.

Save this topic as a favorite and I'll eat crow if I'm wrong and call you the all-being, ever genius, prophet.

Leino will never be more than a 20 pt scorer in the NHL.

You can easily compare Leino to Jokinen and Latendresse on a smaller scale.

I didn't totally understand this working thing. He managed the put 9 points in 13 games last season. To say he will never be able to be more than a 20 point scorer is kinda stupid. I mean you can always say something like that, but there really isn't good arguments to back it up. It obviously wasn't about not lifting weights that he's had a bad season. It's been lack of confidence and stuff like that.

Again, I'm not saying he will score X points. But to say that he'll never top 30 for example is kinda weird considering how he put 9 points in 13 games last season.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 08:43 PM

THIS!


lol that was funny! and MammyK you should rexax and take a gravol then just go to sleep my friend are a little to worked up over...

lol that was funny! and MammyK you should relax and take a gravol then just go to sleep because you my friend are a little to worked up over...


This! :yowza: :clap:

Edited by 13dangledangle, 31 March 2010 - 08:44 PM.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:41 PM

You can easily compare Leino to Jokinen and Latendresse on a smaller scale.

I didn't totally understand this working thing. He managed the put 9 points in 13 games last season. To say he will never be able to be more than a 20 point scorer is kinda stupid. I mean you can always say something like that, but there really isn't good arguments to back it up. It obviously wasn't about not lifting weights that he's had a bad season. It's been lack of confidence and stuff like that.

Again, I'm not saying he will score X points. But to say that he'll never top 30 for example is kinda weird considering how he put 9 points in 13 games last season.

Your man love is clouding your judgment... one hot streak is an anomaly, not a constant... especially when he was playing for a contract...

Once again, I'm not saying any of this to be complete undeniable fact or that I can see the future - it is MY prediction and also, ONCE AGAIN, if he ever proves me wrong, feel free to rub it in my face... but I am pretty confident that day will never come.

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Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:42 PM

Don't we play them this weekend?

I see Leino scoring 3 goals and beating the s*** out of Datsyuk in a fight. :P
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:45 PM

You can easily compare Leino to Jokinen and Latendresse on a smaller scale.

I didn't totally understand this working thing. He managed the put 9 points in 13 games last season. To say he will never be able to be more than a 20 point scorer is kinda stupid. I mean you can always say something like that, but there really isn't good arguments to back it up. It obviously wasn't about not lifting weights that he's had a bad season. It's been lack of confidence and stuff like that.

Again, I'm not saying he will score X points. But to say that he'll never top 30 for example is kinda weird considering how he put 9 points in 13 games last season.



..Then man-up and make a prediction. SteveKrause has boldly stated what he forsees for young Leino. That takes balls - he is giving people the chance to come back one day and say "look how dumb you are(were)!". That takes confidence, and it takes honesty. I not-so-boldly predict that Leino will never amount to anything more than an also-ran. He'll be a fine 30 point per year non-checker on a checking line. That's it. He doesn't have the drive to be a career 1st liner nor does he have the sack to excell as a role player. My prediction is that he plays less than 8 years in the league.

What do you predict for him, Finnish Wing?
"It was pretty interesting," said Detroit coach Mike Babcock. "We had May in exhibition for a couple of games and no one gets hacked or whacked. When we don't have him, we get run. We don't have a team that twists off helmets at stoppages. You get tired of seeing it all the time. It's just nice when you get someone to look after that stuff."

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:47 PM

Your man love is clouding your judgment... one hot streak is an anomaly, not a constant... especially when he was playing for a contract...

Once again, I'm not saying any of this to be complete undeniable fact or that I can see the future - it is MY prediction and also, ONCE AGAIN, if he ever proves me wrong, feel free to rub it in my face... but I am pretty confident that day will never come.

"Man love clouding my judgment", gimme a break. That would be the case if I'd saying something like "he will score 50 points" which I never have.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:29 PM

lol that was funny! and MammyK you should rexax and take a gravol then just go to sleep my friend are a little to worked up over...



This! :yowza: :clap:


alright THAT'S it...... heh

oh well...
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:56 PM

I really don't have a problem with Leino, only that he was close to useless for the Wings. He couldn't skate, wouldn't hit, and was afraid to do the dirty work to get the puck.

And he never seemed to be in the right spot. He was like the anti-Hossa when he was here.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:46 PM

Id like to dedicate my 3000th post to Ville Leino. The King of Suck. Go Ville go go go!

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 07:28 AM

alright THAT'S it...... heh

oh well...

Sorry to dissapoint lol it was lame...and I saw I put Mammy not MannyK sorry for that too!
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 07:37 AM

Will be interesting to see on sunday if he really picks up his game because he play against the wings

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 08:20 AM

Will be interesting to see on sunday if he really picks up his game because he play against the wings


True say that for sure, I forgot they were playing the flyers!

....If he's ever gonna step up, against his old team that gave him up for...lol

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