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Hudler done with dynamo

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"It is not just Linus Unchecked"

:lol: that's the best translation ever.. Linus Omark.

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Yeah the auto translations can't differ names from words and stuff like that

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Would be glad to have him back. Putting up nearly 60 points in a season in his limited role/ice time is solid. Keep him as a PP specialist and roughly 3rd line minutes as he was used his last season with the Wings.

Unfortuantely though I am predicting a Filppula vs. Hudler pissing and moaning match coming from a mile away later today... *sigh*

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Yeah but all george is talking is non valid if Rex has an out-clause.

Yeah, as far as I knew, the Wonder Dog had an out for his second year.

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Yeah, as far as I knew, the Wonder Dog had an out for his second year.

That was my understanding as well... for under a 3 mil cap hit, for 60 pts on a 3rd line and PP... yea, I'll take that...

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This should signal his return assuming there is indeed an out clause and the KHL does not put up a huge fight which they probably will.

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This should signal his return assuming there is indeed an out clause and the KHL does not put up a huge fight which they probably will.

luckily, he could always defect here, like he defected there, haha

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Would be glad to have him back. Putting up nearly 60 points in a season in his limited role/ice time is solid. Keep him as a PP specialist and roughly 3rd line minutes as he was used his last season with the Wings.

Unfortuantely though I am predicting a Filppula vs. Hudler pissing and moaning match coming from a mile away later today... *sigh*

Well, if Hudler is done with Dynamo, that's good news for us. He still has a year left on his contract with them, aside from the opt-out clause that allows him to return to the NHL.

This means either he is leaving the KHL entirely and going to a DIFFERENT European league, or he's back next season (most likely) and Wings fans will generally be pleased.

So with Hudler back, the current SIGNED Wings roster for next season:

Forwards:

Datsyuk $6.7m

Zetterberg $6,083,333

Franzen $3,954,545

Filppula $3m

Hudler $2.875m

Cleary $2.8m

Draper $1,583,333

Defense:

Rafalski $6m

Stuart $3.75m

Kronwall $3m

Ericsson $900k

Kindl $883,333

Goalie:

Osgood $1,416,666

Howard $716,666

Total cap hit: $43,662,876

Cap space (assuming no change): $13,137,124

Forwards on the active roster who will be RFAs this summer: Helm, Eaves, Miller

Other notable RFA forwards: Abdelkader

Forwards on the active roster who will be UFAs this summer: Holmstrom, Williams, Bertuzzi, Maltby

Defensemen on the active roster who will be RFAs this summer: Meech

Other notable RFA defensemen: Kolosov

Defensemen on the active roster who will be UFAs this summer: Lidstrom, Lilja, Lebda

Other notable UFA defensemen: Janik

All of the signed players I listed above will likely play on the regular roster, with Kindl possibly rotating in with Ericsson and whoever the #7 is.

The Wings need to sign five forwards and one defenseman to their everyday roster, plus anywhere from one to three spare players.

If Lilja continues his pro career, he will almost certainly be re-signed. If not, he will probably be replaced with someone who would most likely be RFA Meech, who has solid potential as a two-way defenseman, is quick and versatile, and is very cost-effective. Assuming Lilja returns, he likely rotates in with Kindl and Ericsson to get them as much playing time as possible.

No we're looking at Lidstrom. Interviews have suggested he'll return. He probably takes a pay cut, likely down to tha $4-5m range. If he doesn't return, that's probably about what's spent on his "replacement".

So having determined that the Wings probably spend about $7m on their defense at the top end, figure the Wings will then see about $6m left to spend on six forwards.

Hudler returning throws a wrench in keeping scoring forwards, and Bertuzzi is out unless he is willing to accept a similar deal to what he has. So let's focus on the cheaper guys, while leaving open a spot for what Bertuzzi would have to accept. Abdelkader is a darn good player, but he likely won't see much of a raise. Figure him in at $900k. Eaves and Miller can be seen at $750k each, and Helm at $1m.

That's $3.4m, leaving $2.6m. Still left as UFA from this season's roster are Holmstrom, Maltby, Williams, and Bertuzzi. Williams is probably gone with Hudler returning. The Wings would still need to sign two forwards, so that they have 12 regulars and a spare. With his season-ending injury, Maltby may choose to retire after the season. If the team wins the Cup or comes close, it's highly IMO likely both Maltby and Homer are gone. This would leave about $2m for Bert and another $500k to sign that last guy, perhaps even a guy like Evan McGrath or Ryan Oulahen who has been waiting for a chance. Keeping Kris Newbury as the spare forward is another potential move the Wings might make.

But if the Wings were able to keep Bert while losing Homer, the forwards would be:

Zetterberg

Datsyuk

Franzen

Hudler

Filppula

Bertuzzi

Cleary

Eaves

Miller

Helm

Abdelkader

Draper

Newbury (?)

Lidstrom (?)

Kronwall

Rafalski

Stuart

Lilja

Ericsson

Kindl

Which projects lines out to, keeping lines that have shown chemistry recently:

Hudler/Datsyuk/Franzen

Filppula/Zetterberg/Bertuzzi

Miller/Abdelkader/Cleary

Draper/Helm/Eaves

Newbury (?)

Lidstrom/Rafalski

Kronwall/Stuart

Lilja-Ericsson-Kindl

Howard/Osgood

PP1: Hudler/Datsyuk/Franzen/Lidstrom/Rafalski

PP2: Filppula/Zetterberg/Bertuzzi/Kronwall/Ericsson-Kindl

PK1: Helm/Miller/Lidstrom/Lilja

PK2: Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Kronwall/Stuart

PK3: Filppula/Cleary

That's kinda scary good, actually. And if Homer doesn't retire, it probably shifts the lines around somewhat as Bertuzzi is likely not to take the $2m that keeps him on the roster.

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Newbury was traded to the Rangers. If Bert slumps his way through the end of the season I don't think he will be back either.

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Kris Newbury is also a UFA at the end of the season. If the Wings want to sign him and he chooses to come here they can sign him. The Wings are not restricted to their own UFAs, even if they traded them away.

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Why would we sign Newbury if we just traded him? 0% chance he's here next season.

Ritola will be a Red Wing next season so you can add him to your list.

And by the sounds of it, Hudler really wants to come back.

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Why would we sign Newbury if we just traded him? 0% chance he's here next season.

Ritola will be a Red Wing next season so you can add him to your list.

And by the sounds of it, Hudler really wants to come back.

agreed.

my projected roster for next year:

Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($1.500m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m)

Drew Miller ($0.750m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.900m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)

Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Darren Helm ($1.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.800m)

Mattias Ritola ($0.600m)

Nicklas Lidstrom ($3.450m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

Andreas Lilja ($1.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) / Chris Osgood ($1.417m)

ROSTER: 22; PAYROLL: $53.663m; CAP ROOM: $3.137m BONUSES: $0.000m

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Well, if Hudler is done with Dynamo, that's good news for us. He still has a year left on his contract with them, aside from the opt-out clause that allows him to return to the NHL.

This means either he is leaving the KHL entirely and going to a DIFFERENT European league, or he's back next season (most likely) and Wings fans will generally be pleased.

I stopped reading after the bolded part. I think it's hilarious that you assume because your ecstatic about Hudler's POTENTIAL return that everyone else will be. I'm not at all happy about the Red Wings being forced to take back a player who sucked this year (and wasn't amazing before) regardless of who it is.

Not like this post isn't something you haven't posted 5 times before whining about wanting Hudler back.

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I stopped reading after the bolded part. I think it's hilarious that you assume because your ecstatic about Hudler's POTENTIAL return that everyone else will be. I'm not at all happy about the Red Wings being forced to take back a player who sucked this year (and wasn't amazing before) regardless of who it is.

Not like this post isn't something you haven't posted 5 times before whining about wanting Hudler back.

54 19 35 54

PPG and 8th in scoring in the KHL sucks now? I'm no Hudler slappy, but that dog don't hunt.

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I'm not sure I like the idea of keeping Bert over Homer.

I don't think most of us are... but I really think Holmstrom is gonna hang them up after this year... the toll on his body has been brutal, if he's still playing, replace Bert with Holmstrom in that scenario...

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agreed.

my projected roster for next year:

Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($1.500m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m)

Drew Miller ($0.750m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.900m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)

Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Darren Helm ($1.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.800m)

Mattias Ritola ($0.600m)

Nicklas Lidstrom ($3.450m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

Andreas Lilja ($1.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) / Chris Osgood ($1.417m)

ROSTER: 22; PAYROLL: $53.663m; CAP ROOM: $3.137m BONUSES: $0.000m

Just when I thought this team couldnt get any softer...

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Just when I thought this team couldnt get any softer...

I didn't say that was my ideal roster, that's just what I think it WILL be...

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Let me get this straight: we disparaged his attitude and commitment when he left the Wings to go to the KHL, and now we're begging to have him back when he throws a hissy-fit and wants to leave the team that is paying him $5m/year tax-free?

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54 19 35 54

PPG and 8th in scoring in the KHL sucks now? I'm no Hudler slappy, but that dog don't hunt.

82games, 23 goals, 34assists last year in NHL

54 games, 19 goals, 35 assists in the KHL... yeah that does suck.

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