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#21 zettie85

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 03:19 PM

Is the way Lidstrom handled his captaincy really that much different then the way Stevie did?



No but it's more about the era. He is still a member of the old guard. Same with Iginla.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 03:24 PM

Honestly, I don't think there are any captains now like we had in the previous era, with Yzerman, Messier, Stevens, Bourque, Sakic and Francis.

Since those guys have retired, it's left the door open for lots of young captains in the NHL.


they haven't been around long enough for people to romanticize their careers

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 03:28 PM

Is the way Lidstrom handled his captaincy really that much different then the way Stevie did?


Yzerman has more longevity as captain than him, as does every other player I listed.

Of course that's because they played on the same team, but still, Lidstrom will not go down as one of the greatest leaders in hockey history.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 03:33 PM

Where's the guy who's initials are SC? :P

HEY! I just realised that Sidney Crosby = SC and Stanley Cup = SC.

Coincidence?
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 03:36 PM

HEY! I just realised that Sidney Crosby = SC and Stanley Cup = SC.

Coincidence?


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That explains everything!

Just like Damian, he was the chosen one at birth. I bet if you shave Crosby's head, SC will be tattooed on it.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:39 PM

I voted Really Dont Give a Rats @$$ xD because I think the award should be named after Yzerman.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:41 PM

Yzerman has more longevity as captain than him, as does every other player I listed.

Of course that's because they played on the same team, but still, Lidstrom will not go down as one of the greatest leaders in hockey history.


I bet Stevie would disagree.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:46 PM

Mess was a pretty decent team leader. I would nominate him to win the Yzerman Award for sure!

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:46 PM

Come on, man...

I just copy and paste'd the OP's list, minus the nicknames :P. I didn't even check the names to see if they were right. I assumed they were!
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:55 PM

I bet Stevie would disagree.


Because he's too humble.

Do you think Lidstrom is in the same class of leadership as any of the guys I listed?
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:58 PM

Because he's too humble.

Do you think Lidstrom is in the same class of leadership as any of the guys I listed?


More than Messier.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 05:56 PM

Sad... the goaltender is leading the leadership award. This isn't a who played well in the Olympics poll...

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 06:15 PM

Because he's too humble.

Do you think Lidstrom is in the same class of leadership as any of the guys I listed?


Yzerman, Messier, Stevens, Bourque, Sakic and Francis.

I really don't see why not. Enlighten me on your impression of a great leader.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 06:26 PM

Ok peeps Ryan Miller is leading for crying out loud :scared:

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 07:45 PM

Yzerman, Messier, Stevens, Bourque, Sakic and Francis.

I really don't see why not. Enlighten me on your impression of a great leader.


Well, longevity is important when it comes to how people look at all time great leaders.

Lidstrom when he retires will likely be a captain for 5 total years in his career. That's not much compared to those other players. Maybe if Lidstrom became captain at a younger age and stayed there, he would be considered in that class. I'm not saying he's not a great leader, I'm just saying that when discussions arise amongst all-time great captains, who will mention Lidstrom? I don't think anyone will.

The personality isn't really important like some people think. Sakic and Francis were quiet guys, who were well respected as captains. But the longevity is important if you want to mention him amongst those other names.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 08:56 PM

More than Messier.


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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:15 PM

Love that the OP called Ovechkin "Ovie Won Kenovie".

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:47 PM

Are you kidding me??? If Lidstrom does not win this it is an insult!
Th award is such a farce, I wouldn't be surprised if it went to Ovechkin :rolleyes:
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:53 PM

Are you people actually interested in the results of that sham of an award?

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:54 PM

Well, longevity is important when it comes to how people look at all time great leaders.

Lidstrom when he retires will likely be a captain for 5 total years in his career. That's not much compared to those other players. Maybe if Lidstrom became captain at a younger age and stayed there, he would be considered in that class. I'm not saying he's not a great leader, I'm just saying that when discussions arise amongst all-time great captains, who will mention Lidstrom? I don't think anyone will.

The personality isn't really important like some people think. Sakic and Francis were quiet guys, who were well respected as captains. But the longevity is important if you want to mention him amongst those other names.


I guess I see what you mean if you have to go by official captain but that's kind of a bulls*** technicality to me. If you want to talk about great leaders then Lidstrom has to be in the mix.





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