titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Funny pic aside I have a question for everyone: Who are some other players in the league that have a skill set comparable to Tomas Holmstrom's? He provides a net-front presence, makes awesome deflections and sometimes has an uncanny ability to anticipate where the puck will go after shots hit off people, which is part of what allows him to retrieve pucks so well. He doesn't just do those things on the power play but also 5-on-5. Franzen, for example, can play that role on the power play but he's more of a shooter when he plays 5-on-5. The only comparable names that come to mind are Ryan Smyth and Patric Hornqvist. Ryan Clowe plays the role but I've only seen him do it on the PP. On the Red Wings, Dan Cleary is probably the closest the Wings have to a Holmstrom replacement. But who else is there? 1 swiss_fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 i'd say franzen plays the holmstrom role pretty good. Brendan Morrow also comes to mind. Dustin Byfuglien you could throw in there too, but homer will always be the master Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishseven 9 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Franzen filled in good when homer was out,you could tell he'd been learning some lessons from him at least Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 esteef 1 swiss_fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Franzen filled in good when homer was out,you could tell he'd been learning some lessons from him at least True but he's better as a threat from the slot or basically any shooting position since he has one of the best shots on the team. I'd rather he not be stationary in front of the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adubs 8 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 i'd say franzen plays the holmstrom role pretty good. Brendan Morrow also comes to mind. Dustin Byfuglien you could throw in there too, but homer will always be the master Way to insult Morrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Way to insult Morrow. What do you mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Vesa Viitakoski. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Patric Hornqvist out of Nashville supposedly idolized Holmstrom and patterns his game after him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Jovo does it pretty good on the Yotes PP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soultrain 43 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 did homer learn to play that style from (going way back) dino ciccarelli? because dino was filling that gap before bowman axed him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 did homer learn to play that style from (going way back) dino ciccarelli? because dino was filling that gap before bowman axed him Perhaps, but not from playing with him, Dino was gone to Tampa Bay before Homer entered the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 7, 2010 I hear Jake Ryan plays with a similar style. He has been trying to take Homer's roster spot for awhile. 2 Zeowingsfan and mjlegend reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 I hear Jake Ryan plays with a similar style. He has been trying to take Homer's roster spot for awhile. First two names that come to mind are Smyth and Buttmuffin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 in my eyes no one plays like Holmstrom. and i think we all should see that, in terms of what he does and how he does it, no one is his replacement. not cleary, not franzen. Homer is quite special. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 in my eyes no one plays like Holmstrom. and i think we all should see that, in terms of what he does and how he does it, no one is his replacement. not cleary, not franzen. Homer is quite special. I kind of agree. I was just thinking the other day, "Who can replace Holmstrom?" Nobody. Franzen should only play that role on the power play. Cleary is a warrior who's absolutely willing to take a lot of punishment in front of the net and battle for pucks. Yet, he doesn't draw as much attention from defensemen and isn't as good as Homer when it comes to following the puck. I hope Lidstrom and Holmstrom never age and thus never have to retire. Both are truly original and one of a kind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangleDangleBeach 16 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 I kind of agree. I was just thinking the other day, "Who can replace Holmstrom?" Nobody. Franzen should only play that role on the power play. Cleary is a warrior who's absolutely willing to take a lot of punishment in front of the net and battle for pucks. Yet, he doesn't draw as much attention from defensemen and isn't as good as Homer when it comes to following the puck. I hope Lidstrom and Holmstrom never age and thus never have to retire. Both are truly original and one of a kind. ryan smyth is the next best thing... probably more effective 5 on 5 though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 ryan smyth is the next best thing... probably more effective 5 on 5 though. Get it done, Kenny! Yes I know his contract situation. I can still hope though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Perhaps, but not from playing with him, Dino was gone to Tampa Bay before Homer entered the NHL. I would say Dino is the master of it more then Homer. Dino got 600 goals playing that style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kook_10 1,705 Report post Posted April 7, 2010 Perhaps, but not from playing with him, Dino was gone to Tampa Bay before Homer entered the NHL. from an article last fall... http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/10/gensis_of_red_wings_net-front.html And while Mike Babcock certainly got the Wings back to basics, Detroit's genesis as a team that puts a butt in front of the opposing goaltender hearkens back to the 1992-1993 season, when the Wings acquired Dino Ciccarelli from the Washington Capitals. Scotty Bowman joined the team in 1994, and while Ciccarelli was axed after the Wings lost to the New Jersey Devils, Bowman didn't like the Wings' lack of "net-front presence" (theoretically, anyway, you're not supposed to "crash the crease" anymore) during the 95-96 season, so he put some rookie named Tomas Holmstrom in Ciccarelli's spot on the power play.Thirteen years, four Stanley Cups, and a new set of front teeth later, Tomas Holmstrom's still doing what he does best, and he's mentoring the Wings' next generation of puck-tipping pairs of goalie-screening hockey pants in Dan Cleary and Johan Franzen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 8, 2010 Ryan Smyth... 1 mjlegend reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 8, 2010 2 G 3 shots 17:41 TOI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pockets 9 Report post Posted April 8, 2010 in the end homer really is a one trick pony but it is one damn good trick and he doesnt better then the rest Guys like Cpt Canada (Smyth), Dino, the Mule and the others mention all have a better all around game and can consistently score goals in other ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j.hoop 64 Report post Posted April 8, 2010 First two names that come to mind are Smyth and Buttmuffin im assuming you mean byfuglien and the only thing he brings is a big body. he has terrible vision and his net front goals seem to be based more on luck than skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 9, 2010 im assuming you mean byfuglien and the only thing he brings is a big body. he has terrible vision and his net front goals seem to be based more on luck than skill. Right. Seems like every team now has a guy in front of the net. But just because they stand there doesn't make them a 'Holmstrom-type'. Not every team has a guy who can anticipate and retrieve pucks the way Holmstrom can. To me that's the best thing about him. His teammates can shoot it and more often than not when he's healthy he'll be able to get the puck back despite his average to below average skating ability. I can't believe it's so hard to name other people in the league with a similar game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites