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#101 Carman

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:37 PM

nope. just the so-called "elite" players who want a cup. and if i recall, stevie's injury was a lot worse. to be fair, i don't rightly recall that to be fact. luckily, i was just about to watch the 2002 championship dvd, so i'll check into that.

incidentally, i'm not taking sides on the hossa thing. it was just an observation. i'm not one to make generalizations unless they're humorous in nature...


Eh no problem, I just think it's unfair because not every injury is the same. Some can be played through with just pain, and others like a shoulder can severely impact your strength on the puck.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:41 PM

Eh no problem, I just think it's unfair because not every injury is the same. Some can be played through with just pain, and others like a shoulder can severely impact your strength on the puck.

hmmn, so stevie's knee (which, if i'm not mistaken is an integral part of the legs, which are used to skate on, with the knee taking the brunt of maneuverability) was just a "suck it up" type injury, eh?

just sayin...
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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:43 PM

hmmn, so stevie's knee (which, if i'm not mistaken is an integral part of the legs, which are used to skate on, with the knee taking the brunt of maneuverability) was just a "suck it up" type injury, eh?

just sayin...
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Depending on the actually ligament damaged on the knee, yes.

There is a good reason why Yzerman was able to rough it out, yet Franzen, or Kronwall had to be out for months.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:49 PM

You know what's cool? Knowing what you're talking about. http://www.mlive.com...and_says_1.html

The TITLE of the article


And:


So yes, I am for real.


Hey dumbass, no one disputes that Hossa came to the Wings with a slightly torn rotator cuff. You seem to be laboring under the mistaken impression that his injury could not have deteriorated over the course of the season/playoffs, when it was obvious to anyone with eyes that he wasn't right against Pittsburgh. The point I was trying to make (and which obviously eluded your pint size brain) is that a lot of s*** happens in 100 games or so, and minor injuries can easily worsen during that time. Especially when you're getting pummelled hard enough to be removed on a stretcher and suffering other massive hits.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:50 PM

Depending on the actually ligament damaged on the knee, yes.

There is a good reason why Yzerman was able to rough it out, yet Franzen, or Kronwall had to be out for months.

well, it was a re-aggravated injury which had him sidelined for a lot of the season, as well as 30 games in the following season after osteotomy...so i guess its 6 of 1, half dozen of the cliche...

i guess it just comes down to opinion. i'll let the board's opinions stand...i'm out of this increasingly asinine discussion.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:55 PM

Hey dumbass, no one disputes that Hossa came to the Wings with a slightly torn rotator cuff. You seem to be laboring under the mistaken impression that his injury could not have deteriorated over the course of the season/playoffs, when it was obvious to anyone with eyes that he wasn't right against Pittsburgh. The point I was trying to make (and which obviously eluded your pint size brain) is that a lot of s*** happens in 100 games or so, and minor injuries can easily worsen during that time. Especially when you're getting pummelled hard enough to be removed on a stretcher and suffering other massive hits.

Unfortunately my "pint sized brain" interpreted

Hossa was injured toward the end of the regular season

and

re-injured himself in the series against the Ducks, BEFORE the SC Finals

as meaning that you were saying that he was injured then. My apologies. Clearly I should have understood that you actually meant "reaggravated an existing injury", something which you in fact came nowhere close to suggesting.

Anyways, back onto the topic of Hossa's current injury.

Edited by Zetts, 08 April 2010 - 08:56 PM.


#107 Trilobite

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:58 PM

Unfortunately my "pint sized brain" interpreted

and

as meaning that you were saying that he was injured then. My apologies. Clearly I should have understood that you actually meant "reaggravated an existing injury", something which you in fact came nowhere close to suggesting.

Anyways, back onto the topic of Hossa's current injury.


thank you for apologizing for your stupidity.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:59 PM

Hey dumbass, no one disputes that Hossa came to the Wings with a slightly torn rotator cuff. You seem to be laboring under the mistaken impression that his injury could not have deteriorated over the course of the season/playoffs, when it was obvious to anyone with eyes that he wasn't right against Pittsburgh. The point I was trying to make (and which obviously eluded your pint size brain) is that a lot of s*** happens in 100 games or so, and minor injuries can easily worsen during that time. Especially when you're getting pummelled hard enough to be removed on a stretcher and suffering other massive hits.

Yeah he wasn't right against Pittsburg because it was a big game. Therefore he choked.

So now that its been established that he was hurt during the regular season as well and still scored 40 goals, whats your excuse for your boyfriend choking in the playoffs?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:01 PM

Yeah he wasn't right against Pittsburg because it was a big game. Therefore he choked.

So now that its been established that he was hurt during the regular season as well and still scored 40 goals, whats your excuse for your boyfriend choking in the playoffs?


I don't think it will be Hossa's fault his Chicago team will be swept in 4 games because they don't have a goalie. :cool:

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:02 PM

Yeah he wasn't right against Pittsburg because it was a big game. Therefore he choked.

So now that its been established that he was hurt during the regular season as well and still scored 40 goals, whats your excuse for your boyfriend choking in the playoffs?


No, actually I was referring to his shying away from contact (the single most reliable indicator that a player is injured to those of us who have actually played hockey) and his much weaker than average shot.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:07 PM

I think he choked, he opened his mouth and said he came to the Wings to win the cup and didn't want to look like a fool so he felt pressure to score, put a strangle hold on his stick and FAILED..

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:07 PM

No, actually I was referring to his shying away from contact (the single most reliable indicator that a player is injured to those of us who have actually played hockey) and his much weaker than average shot.

Yeah, but he was a powerforward player for us in the regular season when he was still hurt. He always used his body to protect the puck etc. The fact that he shyed away in playoffs shows he didn't want it because he did it fine until the end of the regular season. Its weird how as soon as playoffs started his bum shoulder was the complete cause for him playing bad. Excuses are like assholes, everybody has one. The shoulder was Hossa's

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:10 PM

Yeah, but he was a powerforward player for us in the regular season when he was still hurt. He always used his body to protect the puck etc. The fact that he shyed away in playoffs shows he didn't want it because he did it fine until the end of the regular season. Its weird how as soon as playoffs started his bum shoulder was the complete cause for him playing bad. Excuses are like assholes, everybody has one. The shoulder was Hossa's


So you can't admit that an injury could get worse? Especially when they are articles of him being taken of on a stretcher?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:12 PM

So you can't admit that an injury could get worse? Especially when they are articles of him being taken of on a stretcher?

Admittedly it's been a while since my last Physiology course, but I think it would be difficult for a hit such as the one he received to aggravate a rotator cuff injury.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:12 PM

So you can't admit that an injury could get worse? Especially when they are articles of him being taken of on a stretcher?

Yeah they can obviously get worse, but why was he completely fine until the last game of the season, then the first round comes along and all of a sudden his shoulder has completely deteriorated?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:18 PM

Yeah they can obviously get worse, but why was he completely fine until the last game of the season, then the first round comes along and all of a sudden his shoulder has completely deteriorated?


First round he had 4 points in 4 games...

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:22 PM

"excuses are like assholes....there are a ton of them on LGW"

really, can we just get back to rooting for our TEAM to win, instead of focusing on the reasons why ONE INDIVIDUAL didn't?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:23 PM

First round he had 4 points in 4 games...

2 goals in game 2 when it meant nothing really because the game was won already. Stats aren't everything, just the way he played in general was just totally uninspired. Thats why ppl were on him and not Dats nearly as much.

Those 2 assists aren't hard to get playing on the PP and everything with world class players.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:24 PM

Hossa still had dreams of playing on the Red Wings.

Just cause you look like the gimp don't mean you play like the gimp!


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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:25 PM

2 goals in game 2 when it meant nothing really because the game was won already. Stats aren't everything, just the way he played in general was just totally uninspired. Thats why ppl were on him and not Dats nearly as much.

Those 2 assists aren't hard to get playing on the PP and everything with world class players.


Then why couldn't Datsyuk at least do the same as the horrible Hossa?





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