Wings 4th line?
#1
Posted 11 April 2010 - 02:27 AM
Miller-Abby-Draper
This line may not be much of an offensive threat, but they can be mildly physical and they are defensively responsible. Bout all you can ask from a 4th line eh?
#2
Posted 11 April 2010 - 02:35 AM
Edited by cjm502, 11 April 2010 - 02:35 AM.




#3
Posted 11 April 2010 - 02:39 AM
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#4
Posted 11 April 2010 - 02:42 AM
#5
Posted 11 April 2010 - 04:40 AM


#6
Posted 11 April 2010 - 05:07 AM
My dream 4th line for what the Wings have available this year:
So you'd drop draper for May? Not so sure on that one.
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#7
Posted 11 April 2010 - 05:40 AM
So you'd drop draper for May? Not so sure on that one.
Yup.
May knows and has what it takes to play intense playoff hockey. At this stage of his career it's where he really plays his best. He can provide 7-8 minutes of intense physical forechecking kind of like Drake did in 08.
#8
Posted 11 April 2010 - 06:48 AM
Yup.
May knows and has what it takes to play intense playoff hockey. At this stage of his career it's where he really plays his best. He can provide 7-8 minutes of intense physical forechecking kind of like Drake did in 08.
hmm, i don't know. I think Draper is still great for those big time faceoff situations, although he has not been used as much in the circle this season.
I just don't think may brings enough to the table. I think Eaves, Miller and Helm provide us with enough high energy, tough working play already. I don't want to start an enforcer debate but I think May's fighting ability is way overrated.
Draper and May both bring loads of experience but having both wont really work and I don't think the wings would ditch one of their most loyal servants for Brad May.
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#9
Posted 11 April 2010 - 06:58 AM
#10
Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:01 AM
At present time, that's what I think is ideal. Enough speed on that line which hopefully leads to good forechecking and turnovers for the other team. If Williams was producing more then I might say different, but that's not the case right now. I understand his roles and won't throw a hissy fit if he's still in the lineup, but he's just bone dry or snakebitten or whatever.Our 4th line is far from settled. As far as I can tell, the only certainty for the 4th line is Miller. The question is: will he play center or wing? Bab's definitely has some decisions to make. I don't think Williams should be playing. He hasn't really served a purpose, and he won't be effective unless he's playing with talented line-mates. That why I say:
Miller-Abby-Draper
This line may not be much of an offensive threat, but they can be mildly physical and they are defensively responsible. Bout all you can ask from a 4th line eh?
#11
Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:22 AM
hmm, i don't know. I think Draper is still great for those big time faceoff situations, although he has not been used as much in the circle this season.
I just don't think may brings enough to the table. I think Eaves, Miller and Helm provide us with enough high energy, tough working play already. I don't want to start an enforcer debate but I think May's fighting ability is way overrated.
Draper and May both bring loads of experience but having both wont really work and I don't think the wings would ditch one of their most loyal servants for Brad May.
Yeah, I'm not sold on May-over-Draper, either. I'd definitely take an Abby-Draper-Miller line, though. With Miller taking more faceoffs it gives us two guys who can take the draw, which Babcock loves.
#12
Posted 11 April 2010 - 10:04 AM
Draper-Abs-Miller would be ideal... but Babs is not likely to scratch Willy, expect lines to stay as they are until we lose or if someone gets banged up... Abs will definitely be the first one into the lineup though...Yeah, I'm not sold on May-over-Draper, either. I'd definitely take an Abby-Draper-Miller line, though. With Miller taking more faceoffs it gives us two guys who can take the draw, which Babcock loves.
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#13
Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:39 AM
I don't think Draper really even brings that anymore, he's rarely out there for big faceoffs in the regular season so I doubt he would in playoffs anymore. I don't think May will get in over Drapes right away however.hmm, i don't know. I think Draper is still great for those big time faceoff situations, although he has not been used as much in the circle this season.
I just don't think may brings enough to the table. I think Eaves, Miller and Helm provide us with enough high energy, tough working play already. I don't want to start an enforcer debate but I think May's fighting ability is way overrated.
Draper and May both bring loads of experience but having both wont really work and I don't think the wings would ditch one of their most loyal servants for Brad May.
Abby in there might toughen up that line enough that May wouldn't be needed, Abby can probably handle most of the pest type guys that would be a problem in the playoffs. If May got in though I would be pumped because he's just a tougher version of Drake. He would hammer everything knowing this could be his last playoffs. I think Abby will be in pretty much right away over Williams though, Babcock knows you need tough hockey players, its Holland who needs to learn that.
But seriously, you think Helm, Miller and Eaves provide enough energy? Helm has big hits come playoffs and provides energy yes, Eaves is a decent energy player but its not like he wears opponents down really and Miller isn't physical at all. These 3 would be good compliments to May and Abby on the 4th line though because that line would be physical as hell and a treat to watch. Noone would f*** with that line.
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#14
Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:41 AM
That would be a great checking line that could create some havoc. Draper has been invisible for too long now. He's no longer a solid checker either, unless pinning the puck along the boards counts as a bodycheck.
#15
Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:43 AM
#16
Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:45 AM
Some ppl think he wont because he plays the PP. I think Babcock understands the importance of tough hockey in the playoffs and will scratch him however.Why is babcock not likely to scratch williams..i dont get it?
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#17
Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:51 AM
#18
Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:54 AM
Because other than him, our only other right handed shot coming off the bench is Osgood, and Babs likes having the right-left D on the PP.Why is babcock not likely to scratch williams..i dont get it?
Edited by Shaman464, 11 April 2010 - 12:06 PM.
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#19
Posted 11 April 2010 - 12:10 PM
Our 4th line would look even better with Abby out there over Williams for sure and maybe with May over Draper depending on who we're playing.Our third and fourth lines have looked great all season IMO, with the one notable exception of Williams. Keep him out of there, and I don't think we can go wrong with pretty much any combination.
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#20
Posted 11 April 2010 - 12:38 PM
I do think Williams will (eventually) be scratched in favor of someone like Abdelkader. I don't see anyone other than May and Abdelkader actually seeing playing time, though out of the call-ups.
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