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#1 Wings_Dynasty

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:08 AM

"The threat of any confrontation in the pre-game warmup is of particular concern to the league. To the point, Campbell warned the 16 teams, if an altercation mars the series, the offending team could lose a roster spot on the night the incident takes place, meaning the disciplined team would be forced to play the game with 17 skaters and two goalies."

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Also includes a nice piece about Holmstrom's upcoming disallowed goals.

"Finally, coaches and general managers were also told goaltender interference will be watched closely.

The Phoenix Coyotes are sure to remind round one officials of this on a game by game basis as Detroit's Tomas Holmstrom has mastered the art of screening, deflecting pucks, and generally agitating opposition goaltenders.

The NHL intends to watch Holmstrom and all “crease crashers” closely, and Colin Campbell suggests it's best to stay out of the blue paint to avoid a penalty."

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:14 AM

They've been trying to stop Holmstrom from doing his job for years. He still scores and he'll score again this year too.

If Campbell is so concerned he can change the rule. Reminding teams that they're going to enforce existing rules isf****** retarded.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 06:23 AM

Not surprising. They've been "closely" watching goalie interference or whatever you want to call it the past few seasons. That doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is such the ridiculous gray area there is regarding rules or penalty time when goalie interference or bulls**t phantom interference is called, on anybody or any team. It absolutely drives me up the wall. Even when it benefited the Wings, for example, when they beat Chicago in that 5-goal 2nd period outburst, Byfuglen (spelling?) got called for phantom interference that would've put the Hawks up 3-0, making it damned hard to come back. I'm glad it gave the Wings momentum being a Wings fan obviously, but the call was absolute crap still.

It's impossible for referees not to look like idiots whenever this comes up because the rules is beyond ridiculous in terms of how loosely it is defined. Either you completely interfered with the goalie (regardless of whether the puck went in the net or not) resulting in a minor penalty, or you did not. None of this halfway s**t where a goal is waived off and there's no penalty, but you still "interfered".

Fix the damned rule to not be so loosely defined.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 06:30 AM

So this time they're warning us in advance that they intend to wave off Holmstrom's goals? Awesome.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 06:33 AM

Wait, so the Coyotes are already crying about Holmstrom before the series has even started?

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 06:36 AM

Can a 3 second violation be far behind?
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:04 AM

If it was Dino Ciccarelli or some other Canadian born cherry picker the NHL wouldnt have a problem with it. Also, they shouldnt call a player out by name. That just backs up the fact that there are "penalties by reputation." With all these younger refs the NHL shouldnt be seen as slightly agreeing with that notion.

I dont have a problem if Homer is IN the crease and makes contact but I do have a problem with him being pushed into the goalie. Also, fair is fair. If he makes contact with a goalie in the paint... call interference. If a goalie slashes him several times or if a D man crosschecks him... you better call that too.
That wont happen but it should.

Anyone know what zebras are calling the game tonight?

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:18 AM

They've been trying to stop Holmstrom from doing his job for years. He still scores and he'll score again this year too.

If Campbell is so concerned he can change the rule. Reminding teams that they're going to enforce existing rules isf****** retarded.

Exactly. The letter of the law should be consistent enough that we don't need warnings about the enforcement of rules from one day to the next. More and more, these warnings are extremely thinly veiled warnings to specific individuals, in this case Holmstrom. It might as well have said "Colin Campbell has said refs will be cracking down on Holmstrom's style of play". My bulls*** meter is already in the yellow and the puck hasn't even dropped on Game 1. I'm predicting at least 1-2 disallowed goals per round for Holmstrom and the Wings.

The most frustrating thing of all this time of year, is that it always happens and it always happens on goals in which Holmstrom is completely playing within the rules and perfectly screening outside of the crease. Holmstrom does get in there on occasion, but I don't think I've ever seen a disallowed goal on a legit interference with Holmstrom, just knee jerk refereeing. Hooray for NHL consistency!

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:37 AM

Homer should seriously should tie of of those pine tree air fresheners to this fight strap so Ilya has something good to smell.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:39 AM

ryan smyth is just as bad as homer. always has been, but he's a good little canadian boy...

so am i, but i'm adding to the previous point. there should be no bias. but watch kings games and see what that ****** bag smyth gets away with.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:47 AM

If it was Dino Ciccarelli or some other Canadian born cherry picker the NHL wouldnt have a problem with it. Also, they shouldnt call a player out by name. That just backs up the fact that there are "penalties by reputation." With all these younger refs the NHL shouldnt be seen as slightly agreeing with that notion.


That's the problem I have too. You don't call out a player by name because now you've put the name in the heads of the refs.

You think we'd ever see quotes like this?

"Finally, coaches and general managers were also told diving and embellishing will be watched closely.

The Ottawa Senators are sure to remind round one officials of this on a game by game basis as Pittsburgh's Sidney Crosby has mastered the art of diving and embellishing contact in order to draw a penalty on the opposing team."

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:48 AM

Unless your name is Malkin or any other Penguin for that matter

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:53 AM

Anyone know what zebras are calling the game tonight?



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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:54 AM

It's actually a positive to hear Campbell discuss Holmstrom... some of the penalties/disallowed goals that he gets are wildly inconsistent. It's absolutely horrendous to make those kinds of calls based solely on reputation or on flow of the game.

Call them objectively, consistently and the players will adjust.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:54 AM

It's funny, because Holmstrom has been called for interference while clearly outside the blue paint anyway.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:56 AM

That's the problem I have too. You don't call out a player by name because now you've put the name in the heads of the refs.

You think we'd ever see quotes like this?

"Finally, coaches and general managers were also told diving and embellishing will be watched closely.

The Ottawa Senators are sure to remind round one officials of this on a game by game basis as Pittsburgh's Sidney Crosby has mastered the art of diving and embellishing contact in order to draw a penalty on the opposing team."


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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:30 AM

Holmstrom was not specifically mentioned by the league that I'm aware of.

And booo-hiss top the league for taking away the chance of a good fun pregame playoff brawl. Philly-Boston in '87 was a riot - it's too bad we'll never see anything like it again - not because the players aren't interested, but because the league decided it's bad PR. I'm glad things were different then - I don't think my life would be as complete had I not lived to witness Claude Lemieux getting his ass kicked by a goalie.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:59 AM

That's the problem I have too. You don't call out a player by name because now you've put the name in the heads of the refs.

You think we'd ever see quotes like this?

"Finally, coaches and general managers were also told diving and embellishing will be watched closely.

The Ottawa Senators are sure to remind round one officials of this on a game by game basis as Pittsburgh's Sidney Crosby has mastered the art of diving and embellishing contact in order to draw a penalty on the opposing team."

From the article it's hard to tell if that actually happened. The article mentions Homer by name, but there's no direct quote of Campbell doing it.

That's not to say it wasn't the case. If it was, that's an incredibly unprofessional by Campbell and the NHL to single out Homer (even though everyone would be thinking it anyway).

And have there been that many recent pre-game altercations that they needed to warn about it? What, wasn't there one last season? and that's the first one I can remember in a while.

ryan smyth is just as bad as homer. always has been, but he's a good little canadian boy...

so am i, but i'm adding to the previous point. there should be no bias. but watch kings games and see what that ****** bag smyth gets away with.

I think the Canadian bias has reduced a lot over the years, but yeah, honestly I have to agree that it's still there. Homer would probably get more credit for his toughness and battling if he was a Canadian boy, instead of people having the attitude he's some cheater that the league hasn't been able to get rid of. Much like Lids would likely already be considered second only to Orr among greatest defenseman all time, and might have another Norris.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:24 AM

From the article it's hard to tell if that actually happened. The article mentions Homer by name, but there's no direct quote of Campbell doing it.

That's not to say it wasn't the case. If it was, that's an incredibly unprofessional by Campbell and the NHL to single out Homer (even though everyone would be thinking it anyway).


True. In retrospect, I realized that it may have been TSN responsible for the mention and not Campbell. But if it was Campbell, you're right - extremely unprofessional and frankly, cause for worry when it comes to the officiating in the series. Hopefully, it was just the former and TSN simply reporting on hockey.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:45 AM

True. In retrospect, I realized that it may have been TSN responsible for the mention and not Campbell. But if it was Campbell, you're right - extremely unprofessional and frankly, cause for worry when it comes to the officiating in the series. Hopefully, it was just the former and TSN simply reporting on hockey.

Absolutely cause to worry. It pretty much gives the refs license to call a lot of penalties on Homer. Especially since the league has made the very public warning about cracking down on interference, they won't want to look bad for letting anything go.

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