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#61 SuperCalaFilppulastic!

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 11:27 AM

This isn't Fedorov stringing the organization along for more money. Hudler had his intentions known to Holland, got the organization's blessing to go get a paycheck that really no one in Hudler's position could turn down, and both worked out keeping Hudler's rights for his eventual return with a damn good cap hit.


Bingo. I don't get the animosity from fans, yet the organization seemed to be a-ok with the process all along. I mean, there is a salary cap, and with all the extensions and such, we really couldn't afford Hudler's contract. He made it very clear that he only wants to play for Detroit and the arbitration turned out well (as far as I know it wasn't the disaster that arbitrations usually are in relation to slaughtering the player and org).

It really seemed like a win-win situation. Some players got to develop on the Wings while Hudler made some dough and stayed competitive for a year. Now he'll be back at a great price.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 11:37 AM

I'll welcome Hudler back in a second, and hold nothing against him for going to Russia for a season.

I was just thinking, going to Russia may have hurt Hudler in future NHL contracts. I'm sure Hud's would have scored about 65, almost 70 points this season with all the injuries and increased ice time.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 11:41 AM

Plus I'm sure living in North America instead of Russia is worth making less.


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Posted 18 April 2010 - 12:35 PM

Seems like it's almost a done deal:
http://detnews.com/a...0315/1128/rss16

Reports: Hudler to return to Wings next season
Chris McCosky / The Detroit News

Detroit -- All signs are pointing toward winger Jiri Hudler returning to the Red Wings next season.

According to reports out of Russia and Canada, Hudler has been released from his contract with the KHL's Moscow Dynamo, which would free him to rejoin the Wings next season.

Red Wings general manager Ken Holland hasn't heard officially yet from the Jiri Hudler camp, but he expects to very soon.

"I spoke to Jiri's North American scout last week in Phoenix and he thought something was going to get done soon," Holland said Sunday morning. "I haven't heard from him yet, but it's the weekend. We'll see."

Asked if it was done deal that Hudler would be with the Red Wings next season, if he has been released from his contract in Russia, Holland said, "It's a done deal is he wants to come back to the NHL."

Holland said that Hudler could sign with another team in the KHL or in another professional league in Europe. But all indications are that Hudler wants to come back to the Wings and the NHL.

Hudler cannot be added to the Wings roster for this postseason. He would have had to be bought out and added to the Wings roster before the March trade deadline to be eligible to play now.

Hudler, 26, has a two-year deal arbitrated with the Wings last summer worth $2.875 million per year. He scored 19 goals for Moscow this season after posting 23 with the Wings in 2008-2009.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 12:39 PM

Seems like it's almost a done deal:
http://detnews.com/a...0315/1128/rss16


Hmm... Well, I guess that doesn't leave any room for Bert.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 12:39 PM

Makes you wonder why he left in the first place.

Whole thing seemed like a waste of time. Maybe he got to bang some hot Russian chicks down there and that was the payoff. Who knows?
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 12:40 PM

Hmm... Well, I guess that doesn't leave any room for Bert.

Lidstrom might retire and the replacement D might not cost as much, or he re-signs a 1 year and takes a huge paycut... release williams also and some other redundant player

Edited by mindfly, 18 April 2010 - 12:41 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2010 - 12:47 PM

Lidstrom might retire and the replacement D might not cost as much, or he re-signs a 1 year and takes a huge paycut... release williams also and some other redundant player


Didn't you say that some reports out of Sweden basically said that Lidstrom has already retired?

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 12:50 PM

Didn't you say that some reports out of Sweden basically said that Lidstrom has already retired?

He hasn't said it anywhere but lots of reporters over here gets that feeling after talking to him, you know the swedish red wing player's are much more open to swedish media than north american media because swedish media doesn't get the NA attention...For example Homer is usually pretty politically incorrect when talking to some reporters over here if he would have said the same stuff to NA-media he might have gotten Fined for it..

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:07 PM

Makes you wonder why he left in the first place.

Whole thing seemed like a waste of time. Maybe he got to bang some hot Russian chicks down there and that was the payoff. Who knows?

I thought it was obvious he left for the money.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:09 PM

It's not that I don't think he can't improve, but he hasn't been in the NHL for a year, so he'll have to re-adjust. He might be at the same or better level than when he left, but the transition from the start of the season will show and affect his end of the year totals.

I'm not saying it definitely made him worse, but it sure as hell didn't make him better.



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For all the crap you give people for saying anything even remotely negative about Filppula, you turn around and do the same thing to Hudler.

Who cares if it was on the powerplay? Sure, about half of his points came on the powerplay but he almost equaled those numbers at even strength playing third and fourth line minutes with inferior talent. Hudler is probably the most gifted offensive talent the Red Wings would have outside of the big three (Z, Pavel, Mule). Besides your argument doesn't really hold much ground if you want to compare him to Filppula. Fil only had seven more even strength points than Hudler and Fil played nearly three more minutes per game.

The Red Wings could definitely use Jiri Hudler for the very strong offensive skill he has proven in his career. Give credit where it's due like you demand constantly for Filppula.
 
 
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:11 PM

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:12 PM

Just because Hudler is back doesn't mean Bert is gone.

Rumor is the cap may go from 56.8-58

There is 1.2 million, Add Williams' 1.5 million and that is 2.7 million - almost Hudler's entire contract.

Lidstrom's pay cut is then used to re-sign the RFAs to their pay increases and the team is all set.

Just means we carry 14 forwards and 7 d-men instead of 13 forwards and 8 d-men (Ritola cannot be waved)

Forwards:
Franzen, Datsyuk, Holmstrom, Filppula, Zetterberg, Hudler, Cleary, Helm, Bertuzzi, Eaves, Abdelkader, Miller, Draper, Ritola
Defense:
Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart, Ericsson, Lilja, Kindl
Goalies:
Howard, Osgood

EDIT: This assumes that Bert signs another 1.5 million contract.

Edited by russianswede919293, 18 April 2010 - 01:13 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:17 PM

For all the crap you give people for saying anything even remotely negative about Filppula, you turn around and do the same thing to Hudler.

Who cares if it was on the powerplay? Sure, about half of his points came on the powerplay but he almost equaled those numbers at even strength playing third and fourth line minutes with inferior talent. Hudler is probably the most gifted offensive talent the Red Wings would have outside of the big three (Z, Pavel, Mule). Besides your argument doesn't really hold much ground if you want to compare him to Filppula. Fil only had seven more even strength points than Hudler and Fil played nearly three more minutes per game.

The Red Wings could definitely use Jiri Hudler for the very strong offensive skill he has proven in his career. Give credit where it's due like you demand constantly for Filppula.


Filppula and Hudler had the exact same Points per minute at even strength and had the same linemates. There is nothing wrong with getting the majority of your points on the PP, I just hate the "Hudler racked up so many points on the third line" argument. It just isn't true. That's all.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:19 PM

I won't mind having him back but would rather trade him. A lot of people in here are talking about how the people who are mad at them shouldn't be. Doesn't everyone remember how he handcuffed the organization and we were left with Jason Williams as our free agent crop?

I would rather trade him, playing in the top 6 is not for Hudler. He's slow, bad defensively and weak. He thrives playing o the third line against weaker opposition and playing as a PP specialist. If we can trade him I would do it for sure, as long as the return is half decent. Maybe try to get a couple prospects or something for him.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:20 PM

I thought it was obvious he left for the money.


But just for one year it seems like a waste of time.

I mean he didn't exactly make Lebron James money over there.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:31 PM

But just for one year it seems like a waste of time.

I mean he didn't exactly make Lebron James money over there.

5 mil tax-free is a pretty good reason to jump ship for a year. I know I would do it. It's the difference between "my kids should never have to worry" and "my grandkids shouldn't have to worry" as long as you are smart with it.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:42 PM

Huddles would be a welcome addition to the third line and could be moved up to the second line easily too. I would still like to see us add another physical body - Raffi Torres comes to mind - that can bang, crash, and score too. After seeing what Fil has done with and for Z, I would really like to keep them together as we have a glutton of centers that could take the third and fourth center spot next year.

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Draper-Abby-Eaves/Miller

Not sure what they'll do with Bert next year, I guess it depends on what he wants for salary and if we can fit him in somewhere. Ritola is out of options but didn't exactly tear it up last year so maybe we trade him keep him for a while if there's an injury out of training camp. I really think Abby will be up with the Wings next year as we can see he's better than some of the current Wings now.
If Lids returns with a 2.5mil paycut and if the cap rises by a 1mil we can easily afford the forward lineup listed above with Williams salary coming off the books too. Huds is already signed for 2.7. Torres will be looking for somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5/year for two years as well. 1.5 from Williams, 1.0 in cap increase, 2.5 from Lids reduced salary gives us 5mil to play with next year for Huds and Torres.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:45 PM

I'd like that line up if we can afford. Would be a really good third line. I don't think Torres would get 2.5 though, 2 at max.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:53 PM

Imagine Hudler playing against the physical Coyotes team...*shudders*

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