Report: Hudler released from Moscow Dynamo

[Konnan511 1,736]

If I was working at a place for five years and another firm offers me twice as much as I am making now AND offers me a clause in my contract that says I can go back to my old firm if I didn't like this new one...hell yah I'd take them up on that!

We don't really need Hudler, but I'd take him back as a PP specialist and a 2nd/3rd line sniper no problem as long as we shed some dead weight/salaries ala Maltby/Draper/Lebeech/Willfails. We NEED Holmstrom to stay on another year, that much is for sure as we have learned this year, he is VITAL.

Edited April 18, 2010 by Konnan511

[titanium2 867]

Just because Hudler is back doesn't mean Bert is gone.

Well it's not a matter of cap space for me as much a matter of roster spots and the appropriate type of roster spot.

The bottom six has a big enough glut of players as it stands today. Also, I really like the way the bottom six has been this year. They can all really skate and they're only going to get better in all aspects of the game. Hudler is a guy who should be in the top six. So is Bertuzzi. Those guys really shouldn't be in the bottom six because of their style of play. The top six will have Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filppula and Holmstrom will re-sign I'm sure. That only leaves one spot for a top six forward. Hudler or Bertuzzi?

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

On the PP*

So? He scored around half his points on the PP. Most of his goals were at even strength.

[CenterIce 83]

It sounds like Dynamo Moscow is going to be merging with HC MVD. This may have helped in getting Hudler out of his deal, even with his out clause.

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[Drake_Marcus 890]

The Dynamo's GM left and Hudler was his big signing last year so it makes sense that Hudler would be on the out with him after they s*** the bed in the playoffs and Hudler expressed interest in going back to Detroit.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Yes I was aware of that...What I was getting at was his overall conditioning - it was sub par by NHL standards; this notion that the KHL has better conditioned atheletes is well - it's pure crap.

While I agree that it's BS that the KHL has better conditioned athletes, I want to point out that Grigs was a complementary player in the KHL at that point while Jagr was a superstar.

[Zata fan 40 6]

Although Grigorenko had a fantastic season this year for star loaded Ufa team. Keep in mind when he was here for training camp a few years ago the accident did not allow him to properly train the way he would have wanted to. Cards were just stacked against him. I do not think it was because he was lazy and unprepared. I just don't think he was physically unable to do the things to prepare himself for an NHL season.

Edited April 19, 2010 by Zata fan 40

[titanium2 867]

He hasn't said it anywhere but lots of reporters over here gets that feeling after talking to him, you know the swedish red wing player's are much more open to swedish media than north american media because swedish media doesn't get the NA attention...For example Homer is usually pretty politically incorrect when talking to some reporters over here if he would have said the same stuff to NA-media he might have gotten Fined for it..

Oooh, like what kind of stuff does Homer say? I love it when professionals are politically incorrect.

And about Lidstrom, my fear is that he has already decided in his heart that he'll retire after the season is over.

EDIT: And based on the way Game 3 went for him, it looks like he was already thinking about his nice retirement house in Sweden. When was the last time any of us saw him play that badly?

Edited April 19, 2010 by titanium2

[Cloune 270]

nice hudler is back

http://hokej.idnes.cz/hudler-se-vraci-do-detroitu-maji-o-nej-velky-zajem-tvrdi-hokejistuv-agent-1ql-/nhl.asp?c=A100419_114059_nhl_cig

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[Finnish Wing 110]

nice hudler is back

http://hokej.idnes.cz/hudler-se-vraci-do-detroitu-maji-o-nej-velky-zajem-tvrdi-hokejistuv-agent-1ql-/nhl.asp?c=A100419_114059_nhl_cig

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Though it isn't confirmed in that article if I understood right. His agent said it's "most likely that he is going to Detroit".

[Carman 387]

Looks good, hopefully the year in that s*** league didn't harm his development and he stayed fairly clean.

He should fit right in on that second line and if he gets enough minutes should be able to break the points record in a couple months.

[Guest micah]

I hope we can get him to stop at Ellis Island for a thorough de-lousing before he gets into the country. He was rumoured previously to have a thing for hookers and I could see him going through hookers and coke faster than a...than a....a rich midget in Russia?

I hope he can quickly adapt himself back to the fast, more skilled, more gritty, superior-in-every-single-way NHL game.

[Opie 308]

Everyone who has referred to Hudler as a midget please post your real height.

As it is right now I envision a lot of 12 year olds calling him a midget and in fact are only about 4'8 themselves.

As many players in much tougher eras have proven size does not matter in the NHL, it is heart and work ethic. Does Size help, sure so doesn't speed, quickness, and scrappyness.

He made it clear from the start that he only wanted to play in the NHL for the Red Wings, when it looked like they could not afford him (which they couldn't) he and his agent decided on KHL, and Holland knew all about the whole plan. Those of you calling him a trader do realize that if he had not gone to arbitration before going to the KHL this situation would be a lot messier. Also the fact that he did it with Hollands blessing.

But you know what, haterz gonna hate!

[uk_redwing 495]

Everyone who has referred to Hudler as a midget please post your real height.

6'2. Hes a midget.

[Guest micah]

6'2. Hes a midget.

I'm 3'1", 43lbs. The fact that I'm also a midget doesn't make Hudler not a midget.

[Opie 308]

6'2. Hes a midget.

Dwarfism, in medicine, is the condition of being undersized, or less than 127 cm (50 inches) in height. The term midget is usually applied to physically well-proportioned dwarfs.

Hudler is taller than 50 inches as 50 inches = 4'2 (50 /12 = 4 remainder 2 inches), therefore no he is not. (although I doubt he is the listed 5'9)

But as I said haterz gonna hate.

You are 6'2 yet have how many NHL, KHL, Czech Team goals do you have?

mmmm is height really what makes great hockey players?

Or is it the Bow Leggedness that was rumored long ago (not sure if you have ever heard the expression show me a bow legged french man and I will show you a hockey player.)

Either way I am still having a hard time correlating height to NHL skill level, as Chara is the tallest guy in the league but has no Hart trophies, and even gets beaten out yearly in an award designed specifically for him to compete against only people of his position, well if he is the tallest in the league than with out a doubt he must be the tallest D-man, surely he must be the best.

How much taller than Hudler is Crosby? Is that what makes the talent gap difference, the 2 inches (probably 3) is the reason why Crosby is so much greater than Hudler.

And guys like Theo Fluery have proven sizes matters for little more than an attribute in Hockey.

So I ask why does his size matter other than it gives you something to criticize. He takes a licking and keeps on ticking. How many times has he been lit up at center ice only to never miss a shift.

AH that's it! The fact that he is a midget and has different bone structure than the rest of us and that explains it, so you weren't hating. I had it all wrong you trying to show us all that being a midget was a bonus!

Silly me!

PS most of this is me being sarcastic you are just hating for the sake of hating.

[Carman 387]

Hudler could of stayed a Red Wing if he didn't want more money then he deserved.

It's his fault he ruined his career by wasting a year of his prime in a s*** Euro league.

[Guest micah]

Dwarfism, in medicine, is the condition of being undersized, or less than 127 cm (50 inches) in height. The term midget is usually applied to physically well-proportioned dwarfs.

Hyperbole, on the internet, is a figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in "I could eat a horse" or "Jiri Hudler is a midget".

I won't even address your red herrings and strawmen (which aren't actually crimson fish or human likenesses woven from organic material).

[Travis 576]

Dwarfism, in medicine, is the condition of being undersized, or less than 127 cm (50 inches) in height. The term midget is usually applied to physically well-proportioned dwarfs.

Hudler is taller than 50 inches as 50 inches = 4'2 (50 /12 = 4 remainder 2 inches), therefore no he is not. (although I doubt he is the listed 5'9)

But as I said haterz gonna hate.

You are 6'2 yet have how many NHL, KHL, Czech Team goals do you have?

mmmm is height really what makes great hockey players?

Or is it the Bow Leggedness that was rumored long ago (not sure if you have ever heard the expression show me a bow legged french man and I will show you a hockey player.)

Either way I am still having a hard time correlating height to NHL skill level, as Chara is the tallest guy in the league but has no Hart trophies, and even gets beaten out yearly in an award designed specifically for him to compete against only people of his position, well if he is the tallest in the league than with out a doubt he must be the tallest D-man, surely he must be the best.

How much taller than Hudler is Crosby? Is that what makes the talent gap difference, the 2 inches (probably 3) is the reason why Crosby is so much greater than Hudler.

And guys like Theo Fluery have proven sizes matters for little more than an attribute in Hockey.

So I ask why does his size matter other than it gives you something to criticize. He takes a licking and keeps on ticking. How many times has he been lit up at center ice only to never miss a shift.

AH that's it! The fact that he is a midget and has different bone structure than the rest of us and that explains it, so you weren't hating. I had it all wrong you trying to show us all that being a midget was a bonus!

Silly me!

PS most of this is me being sarcastic you are just hating for the sake of hating.

[Opie 308]

PS most of this is me being sarcastic you are just hating for the sake of hating.

Strawman arguments? I told you I was being sarcastic???

Read much?

[Guest micah]

Strawman arguments? I told you I was being sarcastic???

Read much?

Quite a bit, yes - but not as much as I'd like to.

You made a dumb argument, you knew it was dumb, so you added "I'm being sarcastic", thinking that doing so would allow you to post drivel without consequesnce. That's against internet law. Look it up.

Also, Jiri Hudler is a midget.

[deetroit dario 27]

poopies!

there, i feel i've added to this discourse with a level of maturity on par with whats been previously posted. though i'll say, for the record, that my daddy can beat up all of your daddies...

welcome back, huds!!

[newfy 695]

Dwarfism, in medicine, is the condition of being undersized, or less than 127 cm (50 inches) in height. The term midget is usually applied to physically well-proportioned dwarfs.

Hudler is taller than 50 inches as 50 inches = 4'2 (50 /12 = 4 remainder 2 inches), therefore no he is not. (although I doubt he is the listed 5'9)

But as I said haterz gonna hate.

You are 6'2 yet have how many NHL, KHL, Czech Team goals do you have?

mmmm is height really what makes great hockey players?

Or is it the Bow Leggedness that was rumored long ago (not sure if you have ever heard the expression show me a bow legged french man and I will show you a hockey player.)

Either way I am still having a hard time correlating height to NHL skill level, as Chara is the tallest guy in the league but has no Hart trophies, and even gets beaten out yearly in an award designed specifically for him to compete against only people of his position, well if he is the tallest in the league than with out a doubt he must be the tallest D-man, surely he must be the best.

How much taller than Hudler is Crosby? Is that what makes the talent gap difference, the 2 inches (probably 3) is the reason why Crosby is so much greater than Hudler.

And guys like Theo Fluery have proven sizes matters for little more than an attribute in Hockey.

So I ask why does his size matter other than it gives you something to criticize. He takes a licking and keeps on ticking. How many times has he been lit up at center ice only to never miss a shift.

AH that's it! The fact that he is a midget and has different bone structure than the rest of us and that explains it, so you weren't hating. I had it all wrong you trying to show us all that being a midget was a bonus!

Silly me!

PS most of this is me being sarcastic you are just hating for the sake of hating.

Chara has the last norris trophy taken from Nick Lidstrom so Chara proved he was the most dominant defenseman in the league. Hudler has yet to prove to Babcock he deserves more then third line minutes.

And yeah you can say he gets a licking and takes it and blah blah but when was the last time Hudler dished out a licking? You gotta be able to dish it out a bit in hockey. Small guys like Fleury and Terrible Ted were pretty feisty guys, Hudler isn't. Nor does Hudler have world class talent like a guy like St louis. He has below average speed, physicality and defensive awareness but is good on the PP. Thats about it.

[Finnish Wing 110]

Hudler has yet to prove to Babcock he deserves more then third line minutes.

Last year Hudler was tied 70th in points (57) and tied 102nd in ppg (0.70) among forwards.

There are 3x30=90 "1st line forwards" and 6x30=180 "top6 forwards" in the NHL. Hudler was a 1st line forward in terms of points and still a top6 forwad in terms of points per game.

Plus, he did all this playing on the 3rd line most of the time.

No matter how you look at it, Jiri Hudler is a top6 forward in the NHL and definitely a good one too.

Edited April 19, 2010 by Finnish Wing

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

Chara has the last norris trophy taken from Nick Lidstrom so Chara proved he was the most dominant defenseman in the league.

Chara was statistically worse than Lidstrom that year. It was a case of Lidstrom having a sub-par first half and the media clinging to that as much as possible.

Chara was not better than Lidstrom last year.

Hudler has yet to prove to Babcock he deserves more then third line minutes.

And yeah you can say he gets a licking and takes it and blah blah but when was the last time Hudler dished out a licking? You gotta be able to dish it out a bit in hockey. Small guys like Fleury and Terrible Ted were pretty feisty guys, Hudler isn't. Nor does Hudler have world class talent like a guy like St louis. He has below average speed, physicality and defensive awareness but is good on the PP. Thats about it.

If Hudler can get 57 points on the 3rd line I really don't care. The guy has proven he can hack it in the NHL and provide offense. He is going to play for the Wings next year and he is going to provide offense they need.