king_malice 17 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 If the Wings go out in the first round do you think they will make more change then if they go out in the Western Finals ? or do you think it will be the same no matter how we do ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 We'll trade Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Howard for Thornton, Marleau and Nabokov. Oh and there's already a thread about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 We'll trade Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Howard for Thornton, Marleau and Nabokov. Oh and there's already a thread about this. Don't forget Dan Boyle for Lidstrom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hossa4Life 4 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 i am going to go create a thread about line combinations, then offseason moves, and maybe even enforcers. Also a howard or osgood one if i have time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 sorry im not on here with all my spare time to see every topic posted.tools 1 wingsownnhl43 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hossa4Life 4 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 sorry im not on here with all my spare time to see every topic posted.tools there is a search bar. Also then dont just start threads. Pretty simple actually. tool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 Or just don't come into the topic then if your going to be a ******* retard about it 2 blankrap and wingsownnhl43 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hossa4Life 4 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 agreed, truce. we need to focus more on what is important like trading for Hossa in the offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 Ok better question all this talk about Lidstrom retiring and i haven't seen to much on here about Holmstrom calling it a career at the end of this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) Ok better question all this talk about Lidstrom retiring and i haven't seen to much on here about Holmstrom calling it a career at the end of this season. Check out Holmstrom's goal total and games played this season. He's still got another season left in him. Oh and Lidstrom had 49pts at just a month shy of 40 years old. He's got a lot of gas left in the tank too. If he retires I'll be very disappointed. Edit: weird double post action... Edited April 19, 2010 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 I agree i think Holmstrom has gas left and can come back but just wondering if people think he goes out somewhat on a high note, i also think Lidstrom has at least 1 more left in him on the top pairing maybe even a 2nd on the 2nd pairing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) Lidstrom will retire and most of his salary will go for a replacement, haven't checked available UFA's. Edited April 19, 2010 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 If Lidstrom does retire, we do need a replacement. IMO, Rafalski is not a number 1 d-man, and Kronner isn't there yet. IMO, I think we should go after a bigger defenseman (i.e. a Pronger/Chara type). It sucks about Fischer because he had the potential to be a Pronger-esque defenseman that we need so badly. I would settle for an average sized (6'2") player who throws his weight around though. But enough with the "puck-moving, small but fast" defensemen (Rafalski, Lebda, Meech), they aren't designed for the Western conference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 If Lidstrom does retire, we do need a replacement. IMO, Rafalski is not a number 1 d-man, and Kronner isn't there yet. IMO, I think we should go after a bigger defenseman (i.e. a Pronger/Chara type). It sucks about Fischer because he had the potential to be a Pronger-esque defenseman that we need so badly. I would settle for an average sized (6'2") player who throws his weight around though. But enough with the "puck-moving, small but fast" defensemen (Rafalski, Lebda, Meech), they aren't designed for the Western conference. I don't think will ever see Kronner higher then 3-4 pairing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 I don't think will ever see Kronner higher then 3-4 pairing. I think Kronwall has the potential to be where Rafalski is now. And I think that he could be paired with Lidstrom RIGHT NOW. A balance that I have in my NHL10 game (I know it's not real) is that I have a defensive D-man and an offensive D-man on each pairing. Lids-Kronner Stuart (more offensive in the game)-Ericsson Rafalski-Lilja I think that these pairings (though laughable to some to have Rafalski on the 3rd pairing for some reason) give a balance and responsible-ness to each pairing. One player is always back, one is available to jump in on the play. I think that one problem that the real Wings are having is that the two top pairing are unbalanced. Lids-Raf are getting caught pinching with no one playing defense. And Kronner-Stu are sitting back a little too much and not helping out the offense when they are in the O-Zone. Sweapping Kronwall and Rafalski might change that. He can be the physical presence on a pairing with a more offensive minded defenseman (Lidstrom, Greene, etc). He has good hands, knows when to go to the net, and we all know about the "looking for a hit" judgment he has. #2 is not impossible for him. Just right now, he is the 3-4 D-man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 Anton Volchenkov Willie Mitchell Dan Hamuis Segei Gonchar I personally think are the top guys UFA coming up this off season, and they all make from 3.5mill and under now so we could save some money to, Unless they go after Gonchar who make 5mill now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted April 19, 2010 Get Volchenkov here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Cub 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 Volchenkov is an very good dman. Sens would be nuts to let him get away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) Which one ? is best , and i know with Lids it looks best but if he does leave Volchenkov-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Lilja-Ericcson Kindl Kronwall-Rafalski Mitchell-Stuart Lilja-Ericcson Kindl Kronwall-Rafalski Hamuis-Stuart Lilja-Ericcson Kindl Volchenkov(27yrs old) will probably go up to 3.5mill max, Hamuis(26yrs old) 2.75-3mill, what if i know he has played good since he came back but what if we let Lilja walk.Long shot but just an idea. Volchenkov-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Hamuis-Ericcson Kindl Edited April 19, 2010 by king_malice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyTownHouligan 57 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 GONCHAR please if nick retires. he has the sweetest point shot in the world next to shea webber and chara Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hossa4Life 4 Report post Posted April 19, 2010 GONCHAR please if nick retires. he has the sweetest point shot in the world next to shea webber and chara yuck. I thought you wanted to improve our d not our offense. gonchar can not play d. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites