FunkedUp 29 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Unlike many people on this site, I was a Samuelsson fan, even when it wasn't cool. He has a knack for big playoff goals, and he's not disappointing this year. Also, it would be nice to have a shooter on our team and a competent right handed shot on the PP. Why did Holland not match Vancouvers offer? I was bummed to see him go. So far, my concerns have been vindicated. What do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trapt1307 81 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Makes you realize how loaded the Wings were last year, doesn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedUp 29 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Makes you realize how loaded the Wings were last year, doesn't it? No kidding. He was a third liner, and was being paid 1.2 million! THAT'S a bargain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 (edited) Hindsight is 20/20. He could've had a crappy regular season this year like 2 years ago, my mistake, or scored 30 goals who knows. Sure I'm mad he left, especially because Williams was his replacement. I'm just happy for Sammy, he's clutch, a current day Mark Messier, even if his team is kinda sucky right now. And yeah the Wings were loaded last year. Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Hossa Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary Samuelsson-Filppula-Hudler Maltby-Helm-Abdelkader/Draper That's just nuts, you truly dont appreciate what you have until it's gone. (Hossa can still f*** off though ) Edited for messing up Sammys bad season Edited April 20, 2010 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted April 20, 2010 The Red Wings could offer him no more than $1.5 million per year due to salary-cap constraints. Samuelsson said he mulled offers from several teams before choosing Vancouver over Detroit."It was a bunch of reasons, not only the money, although it was the key," Samuelsson said. "I liked it in Detroit, no hard feelings, but they came up too short, too late. In my mind, they made a choice. I know they had a cap issue. That's the way it goes, that's the system." MLive $2.5 million > $1.5 million. That's why Sammy is a Canuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 This team would look a little different if Holland had known in June that Hudler intended to defect. The arbitration and the IIHF tied his hands until late in the summer, that being said he did a pretty decent job with what amounts to a hail mary in the free agency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 He's definitely one of the more dangerous players on the ice in the Canucks series. As noted above, the Hudler situation is what ultimately hurt us. Had we known early that Hudler was leaving, I'm sure they would have signed Sammy right away. In any case, there was no way to predict that he would have a season like this. No one saw that coming. I think the Olympics snub had something to do with his extra drive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 If hudler didn't play his games, Sammy would be on the wings right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Don't blame Hudler - that was 100% GM f***-up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzermania 156 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 of course we should of kept him, either that or we should of made sure we could get the hoss back. Losing both of them was ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Two words: Jason. Williams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Two words: Jason. Williams. Three words: Pile. Of. s***. 2 dobbles and Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedUp 29 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 He's definitely one of the more dangerous players on the ice in the Canucks series. As noted above, the Hudler situation is what ultimately hurt us. Had we known early that Hudler was leaving, I'm sure they would have signed Sammy right away. In any case, there was no way to predict that he would have a season like this. No one saw that coming. I think the Olympics snub had something to do with his extra drive. Definitely agree with you on the Hudler situation, but no one saw this coming? Sammy was a 20 goal scorer (I think he was 20 last season?) playing 3rd line mins. It's not at all surprising that he can be a 30 goal scorer, especially when playing top minutes. The wings could have used a shooter, seems most of the wings would rather pass then shoot, and Sammy doesn't have this problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 of course we should of kept him, either that or we should of made sure we could get the hoss back. Losing both of them was ridiculous. No Hossa was curse in the end. To answer the OP's question: yes we should have kept Sammy but hindsight. The only things really missing from the 08 run are Sammy and Huds, oh and Drake..... JWill doesn't cut it - but I'm liking Abby to permanently replace him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Three words: Pile. Of. s***. I've heard the press box has great entrees to enjoy during the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 If hudler didn't play his games, Sammy would be on the wings right now. Further solidifying the argument that Hudler is a selfish prick.. 1 wingsownnhl43 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 20, 2010 $2.5 million > $1.5 million. That's why Sammy is a Canuck. Jiri Hudler = dips***. That's why Sammy is a Canuck. 3 aflac9262, titanium2 and wingsownnhl43 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 3mil for bert and williams...59 combined points 2.5mil for sammy and abby...59 combined points and a ton of hits hmmmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Good for Sammy. He looks so cocky too these days when he scores as his Canuck buddies hug him and toss him about. I wonder why he couldn't snipe the corner of the net like he did tonight last year. Funny how these things work. 2 2guns and aflac9262 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 Good for Sammy. He looks so cocky too these days when he scores as his Canuck buddies hug him and toss him about. I wonder why he couldn't snipe the corner of the net like he did tonight last year. Funny how these things work. Confidence. He plays nearly two more minutes of TOI this year in comparison to last year. He's been a fixture on the Canucks top six. Also, other than the Sedins, nobody else averaged more TOI on the power play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 I don't think we should have signed Samuelsson still. At the time Hudler looked like he was staying. That decision was made. I would still rather have Hudler than Samuelsson. Had we kept Samuelsson there would have been no chance of keeping Hudler. You need to look at the decision when it was made and not in hindsight to judge if it was the right one or not. At the time it was a good decision. And if Hudler is back next year, and successful it still could be a good decision long-term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58Miles2Joe 12 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 nope. He only shoots a lot. He's not good. Don't you remember? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 nope. He only shoots a lot. He's not good. Don't you remember? Have you been watching the playoffs this year so far with Vancouver? Even just checking out the box scores seeing how much he contributes? (or is my sarcasm detection crappy this morning?) As for Samuelsson, he unfortuantely fell into whipping boy status, which more often than not means a lot of the things that might not have been his strengths, they were going to be overblown into him being one of the worst players in the world. Never thought he was as bad as was overdramatized in here At his salary last year, he was a steal for 2nd/3rd line minutes and chipping in on the PP every now and then. Would I have liked him back? Of course, but I'm glad he's excelling elsewhere with a little bit more time and a raise, he's proving he deserves that raise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 I still would have preferred that thw Wings having made a strong push for Prospal instead of Williams or Sammy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted April 20, 2010 So you'd like to see him disappear again this year in the playoffs. No thx. Especially when the Coyote logo is so big - Sammy wouldn't miss hitting that as per the norm with all his selfish shots!! Yeh he leads the Canucks in goals. Big deal. The goals aren't exactly game deciders. Timely goals are more important than just scoring at this time and the Canucks look to be just about out yet again, relying on 2 players + Luongo to win a Cup .... 1 2guns reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites