Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 That rule makes no sense. When the goaltender loses his mask, the play should be stoppped immediately, regardless of who has the puck. It's a safety issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanDer 58 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 That rule makes no sense. When the goaltender loses his mask, the play should be stoppped immediately, regardless of who has the puck. It's a safety issue. In that case if the other team has a breakaway or something then the goalie could just rip off his mask and play would have to be stoped Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 Could easily be abused if there weren't the "immediate scoring chance" part in there. Other team is swarming, goalie can't freeze the puck - OOPS! my helmet fell off - puck frozen, face off granted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 well the simple solution to that is any intentional throwing of the goalie mask is a penalty or Penalty shot. I really think they should stop the play instantly, even if it were the other way around (as in Det has the scoring chance). Safety is a big issue, can you imagine if some one (unintentionally) from the Yotes was able to get a quick spin around slap shot of on the rebound, get it up in his face, that has broken bones written all over it. There is a reason goalies are not allowed to play sans mask, this is not the original 6 era any more, players would not refuse to shoot high, granted curve of blade makes some of the top shelf shots easier now than they were back in the day. The way some of the guys in the league hit, I can hardly imagine what they would do given the chance to rip a shot at a mask-less goalie. Can you imagine if that puck lands on Steve Downie's stick ( I know wrong team but bare with me, please), how many of you for a second don't worry about him firing a shot off of Jimmy's face intentionally? Even for a second, I would not trust that Downie in that situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 In that case if the other team has a breakaway or something then the goalie could just rip off his mask and play would have to be stoped Solved with the immediate awarding of a penalty shot if a goaltender "loses" his mask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 Really nice pictures, great motion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 That rule makes no sense. When the goaltender loses his mask, the play should be stoppped immediately, regardless of who has the puck. It's a safety issue. If the whistle was blown every time something dangerous happened games would take all day. The rule makes sense. Say that Jimmy doesn't get that save and it goes off his mask (which falls off) and goes in the net. That goal counts. I actually remember the rule going in the Wings' favor a couple years ago. May have even been in the playoffs. Shot went off the goalie mask, which fell off, and then the puck was put in the net by a Wing. The rule was explained and the reasoning was that even if the mask had stayed on the goalie wouldn't have been able to make the save anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branton87 77 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 Someone needs to write "HATERS GONNA HATE" on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted April 21, 2010 Lots of players stand in front of the net without Goalie masks on, the rule is perfect as it is. Stop play as soon as the immediate scoring opportunity has passed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey&beer 16 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 I wonder if that rule has been tweeked over the years. I clearly recall the Wings playing Edmonton in the POs and Roloson's mask regularly "falling" off during net front scrums and the refs blowing the play dead. In fact Rolo used that tactic for the remainder of the run so there probably is plenty of pics avail (no time to search right now). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 I couldn't resist. I had to make a signature or two out of these. 1 I Red Wings I reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 If you don't have the heart of a lion to stop the puck without a mask, then just get out of the way and get scored on. Simple solution. Jim-my, Jim-my, Jim-my, Jim-my!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 That's by far the best pic. The concentration and determination on his face is epic Yandle has a cannon. I was thinking I'd probably take this one right off the teeth if I had to Way to go Jimmeh. I've not seen a goaltender look so fired up in a loooong time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 In that case if the other team has a breakaway or something then the goalie could just rip off his mask and play would have to be stoped lmao and that's why i dont have a problem with them not blowing it dead.it was badass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanDer 58 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 I couldn't resist. I had to make a signature or two out of these. Love the sig! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funguy21 2 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 I don't think its that dangerous of play to let the play go after a goalie lost his helmet. There only so many ways a goalie loses his helmet the one that seem most likely is a puck hitting it like last night. What are the odds of a shot from the point that blows off the goalies helmet landing on the ground in front of him then the rebound shot catching him in the face. There not even that many pucks that hit goalies mask the likelihood of two pucks hitting someone in the head one right after the other is small not to mention one of them being strong enough to knock of the helmet. The important part of the rule is the immediate scoring chance. Lets say the puck hits the goalie in the head knocks off the helmet the rebound is only going to be like a few feet away from the goalie so the pucks close to the net the shots will probably be less powerful and lower. If there is a pass it will be for a play at a open net. The ref wouldn't let the team cycle the puck well the goalie has no mask. The rule make sense because the likelihood of the goalie losing his mask and getting hit in the face with the puck right after is really small. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 I don't think its that dangerous of play to let the play go after a goalie lost his helmet. There only so many ways a goalie loses his helmet the one that seem most likely is a puck hitting it like last night. What are the odds of a shot from the point that blows off the goalies helmet landing on the ground in front of him then the rebound shot catching him in the face. There not even that many pucks that hit goalies mask the likelihood of two pucks hitting someone in the head one right after the other is small not to mention one of them being strong enough to knock of the helmet. The important part of the rule is the immediate scoring chance. Lets say the puck hits the goalie in the head knocks off the helmet the rebound is only going to be like a few feet away from the goalie so the pucks close to the net the shots will probably be less powerful and lower. If there is a pass it will be for a play at a open net. The ref wouldn't let the team cycle the puck well the goalie has no mask. The rule make sense because the likelihood of the goalie losing his mask and getting hit in the face with the puck right after is really small. I think if the goalie's mask comes off,he should be required to put it back on at the next stoppage.That would clear up a lot of things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 I just saw the save on NHL videos. It's hard to tell, but it looks like the shot actually knocks it off. Is that right? If thats correct, that's a huge save. Unbeleivable concentraion. I've seen Luongo more than once flinch and react by going down to protect himself rather than continue with his concentration and keep after the puck. That was amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 The most famous example of that T.Low would be Salo in the 2002 Olympics, when he ducked his head while jumping for the puck and it went past his ducking head and in. Weird explanation and the only vids I could find on youtube were in Russian I think ( in the 12 seconds I took), so I didn't post one but most of us remember that moment. Just before OT were to start I think. Same thing though with Salo I guess he could have lost sight of it, but that looked like a "Oh s*** it is going Brain me, DUCK!!!" type of move. As opposed to the Yzerman goal against St. Louis, when whomever it was (I can't believe I would have to look this up! D'Oh) just misplayed it, the body language on that one was more of a I got this one, ooops no I don't. Where as to me Salo was getting out of the way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) Love the sig! I made a couple others if anyone wants to use them. I'd be happy to make other playoff ones for anyone who wants one, too. Edited April 21, 2010 by Travis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedLightGoesOn 81 Report post Posted April 22, 2010 Looking at these pictures just shows you how determined this guy is. I love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotwings24 4 Report post Posted April 22, 2010 awesome travis,im going to use one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted April 22, 2010 I don't think its that dangerous of play to let the play go after a goalie lost his helmet. There only so many ways a goalie loses his helmet the one that seem most likely is a puck hitting it like last night. What are the odds of a shot from the point that blows off the goalies helmet landing on the ground in front of him then the rebound shot catching him in the face. There not even that many pucks that hit goalies mask the likelihood of two pucks hitting someone in the head one right after the other is small not to mention one of them being strong enough to knock of the helmet. The important part of the rule is the immediate scoring chance. Lets say the puck hits the goalie in the head knocks off the helmet the rebound is only going to be like a few feet away from the goalie so the pucks close to the net the shots will probably be less powerful and lower. If there is a pass it will be for a play at a open net. The ref wouldn't let the team cycle the puck well the goalie has no mask. The rule make sense because the likelihood of the goalie losing his mask and getting hit in the face with the puck right after is really small. I think I'd be more concerned about a stick to the face. Ok, I could watch that a gazillion times a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted April 22, 2010 The most famous example of that T.Low would be Salo in the 2002 Olympics, when he ducked his head while jumping for the puck and it went past his ducking head and in. Weird explanation and the only vids I could find on youtube were in Russian I think ( in the 12 seconds I took), so I didn't post one but most of us remember that moment. Just before OT were to start I think. Same thing though with Salo I guess he could have lost sight of it, but that looked like a "Oh s*** it is going Brain me, DUCK!!!" type of move. As opposed to the Yzerman goal against St. Louis, when whomever it was (I can't believe I would have to look this up! D'Oh) just misplayed it, the body language on that one was more of a I got this one, ooops no I don't. Where as to me Salo was getting out of the way! I think the difference with Jimmy is that Salo had to much time to think and therefore ducked. Jimmy's puck to the head was just too quick and screened, so he didn't have a choice really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites