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WCSF Game 1 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Sharks 4

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I kind of expected the Wings to lose this one. Neither team looked overly sharp, and the Wings in particular looked like they were still in Phoenix for 1:19 of the first. The officiating was inconsistent, but Franzen getting 2 minutes for holding while catching his balance after being highsticked in the face was unreal. That being said, the Wings can't expect to spot San Jose a 3-0 lead and go 0-5 on the PP and give up goals on 2 of 6 PKs and expect to win.

Some bright spots: Cleary and Franzen look like they've finally come to play (yes, Franzen has points in every game, but we need him to score goals, and he looked dangerous tonight). Nabby looks very beatable. The Wings had the Sharks chasing them around for much of the game. I think a couple days to rest and refocus, and the Wings will have a good game 2. Go Wings.

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Everybody is saying that the Wings are the better team. That doesn't mean much to me because the Wings were the better team last year too.

My confidence in the Wings being the better team extends only as far as a game 1 loss.

If we happen to lose game 2, then I'll go run in traffic.

Please win game 2.

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Get the f*** outta here. Everybody said the same s*** at the beginning of round 1 and then when Jimmy was back on his game everybody jumped back on his nuts.

Alot of you need to stop being so f***in negative.

Why don't you wake up and watch those goals again, every goal he gave up a mite player could have stopped. I guess your a "big" man cause you can swear like a big man on the internet. You just don't want to know the truth that howard is NOT a playoff goalie and we are using him like one. If shane doan was in the last series we would have lost in 6 games.

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Why don't you wake up and watch those goals again, every goal he gave up a mite player could have stopped. I guess your a "big" man cause you can swear like a big man on the internet. You just don't want to know the truth that howard is NOT a playoff goalie and we are using him like one. If shane doan was in the last series we would have lost in 6 games.

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Dont worry. We will get them Sunday. Officiating SHOULD be better and lets have faith in our team. Go Wings!

Good night everyone.

Gotta be. Can't see how it could be much worse! :cool: But I am keeping the faith.

GO, WINGS!!

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congratulations sherwood... your reputation is now "retard" for 99% of this forum

if you honestly think ozzie is gonna be better then howard then... then, well... f*** it

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Why don't you wake up and watch those goals again, every goal he gave up a mite player could have stopped. I guess your a "big" man cause you can swear like a big man on the internet. You just don't want to know the truth that howard is NOT a playoff goalie and we are using him like one. If shane doan was in the last series we would have lost in 6 games.

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Hahahahahahaha, you're funny. Please, continue to post. This stuff is absolute gold. :thumbup:

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Whoopzee. You kind of missed the stick in Franzen's face, huh. Wow. Maybe you don't know everything?

I would definitely like to see a vid of that posted here. I've replayed it a dozen times already on the cable box, but haven't yet figured out how to post it here.

A player must have control over his stick at all times, but that's not as hard and fast and technical as it sounds, and there are obvious exceptions (as when taking a shot). That particular loss of control, if it could even be called that, was the inadvertent result of a penalty already made against Seto by Franzen.

Franzen tripped Seto's right skate with his stick. Clearly. Seto went down as a result, his stick low, blade up, but it was low, parallel to the ice, and not in motion. All of that was Franzen's doing. Franzen then lost his edge in the process and he too went down. Seto's stick did not come UP into Franzen's face; rather Franzen's face went DOWN onto Setoguchi's stick. Franzen could have just as easily fallen and gashed his face on Seto's skate, and there would have been no penalty called for that either. Nor should there have been.

A High Sticking penalty was obviously intended to keep players from swinging their sticks HIGH and wildly into other player's faces, and that is what they must have control over. The real loss of control in this instance was on Franzen's part, because that stick was not moving so much as Franzen's face, in a downward falling motion that Franzen had caused in the first place.

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My confidence in the Wings being the better team extends only as far as a game 1 loss.

If we happen to lose game 2, then I'll go run in traffic.

Please win game 2.

You better grab a map and find a nice busy intersection to run into then. Take Howie with you.

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Why don't you wake up and watch those goals again, every goal he gave up a mite player could have stopped. I guess your a "big" man cause you can swear like a big man on the internet. You just don't want to know the truth that howard is NOT a playoff goalie and we are using him like one. If shane doan was in the last series we would have lost in 6 games.

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I am assuming your are just antagonizing everybody, because you sound pretty stupid...

Even though we lost, It looked like, besides that terrible 3 goal span, the wings carried the play... optimistic about game two, especially since we will be more rested... Howard will lead us!!!!!!!

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congratulations sherwood... your reputation is now "retard" for 99% of this forum

if you honestly think ozzie is gonna be better then howard then... then, well... f*** it

I'm just pissed that he's soiling the good name of Stepbrothers in the process.

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You better grab a map and find a nice busy intersection to run into then. Take Howie with you.

If running in traffic let's me meet Jimmy Howard then I'm down for that.

He can stop traffic too, so no big deal.

Edited by crotty99

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I honestly have never felt this good after a wings loss. We came back from a 3-0 deficit. We looked fine. All we need are out special teams to step it up, and if Howie stops that 5-hole, were going to OT right now. WE ARE FINE, and WILL WIN THIS SERIES

I felt the same way during the game and feel even more calm now that it's over. They came out and played their asses off, considering the fact that they had a 48-hour turnaround. The Wings withstood a real onslaught, not only from the three goals, but the refs too. I'm proud of the way they played for most of the game. I still think the Wings will win this series.

Cleary's in the game now, and so is Franzen. The Wings can DO this. :thumbup:

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how does franson get a stick in the face bleading and no call??? still confused

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Howie sucks <...>

it does not matter what you say right now. what matters is that you don have ball to admit you were wrong when wings win it.

WINGS IN 6!!

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I agree. Mostly, anyway. The Wings were pretty good most of the game. They were pretty bad in the 3rd. There's no excuse to be outplayed like that. Well there are excuses, I just choose not to believe them. When the Red Wings actually show up, they win. They took most of the 3rd off tonight, and that's the biggest part of the loss I think.

I think fatigue probably set in the third. I'm going with that anyways. :ph34r:

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I agree. Mostly, anyway. The Wings were pretty good most of the game. They were pretty bad in the 3rd. There's no excuse to be outplayed like that. Well there are excuses, I just choose not to believe them. When the Red Wings actually show up, they win. They took most of the 3rd off tonight, and that's the biggest part of the loss I think.

The Wings didn't take the third off. I think the legs just weren't there. A game 1 on the road less than 48 hours after a game 7 often doesn't go well--Versus showed a stat that showed the road team something like 13-28 in that situation. The Wings were bound to lag a bit in the third, especially after a brutal call leading to a brutal goal. They'll be ready to play Sunday.

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how does Franzen get a stick in the face bleeding and no call??? still confused

there. fixed it for you. but yes, terrible call!

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I'm just pissed that he's soiling the good name of Stepbrothers in the process.

seriously... he's gonna make me cringe every time i see will ferrel's face just like i cringe everytime i see draperfans avatar

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I would definitely like to see a vid of that posted here. I've replayed it a dozen times already on the cable box, but haven't yet figured out how to post it here.

A player must have control over his stick at all times, but that's not as hard and fast and technical as it sounds, and there are obvious exceptions (as when taking a shot). That particular loss of control, if it could even be called that, was the inadvertent result of a penalty already made against Seto by Franzen.

Franzen tripped Seto's right skate with his stick. Clearly. Seto went down as a result, his stick low, blade up, but it was low, parallel to the ice, and not in motion. All of that was Franzen's doing. Franzen then lost his edge in the process and he too went down. Seto's stick did not come UP into Franzen's face; rather Franzen's face went DOWN onto Setoguchi's stick. Franzen could have just as easily fallen and gashed his face on Seto's skate, and there would have been no penalty called for that either. Nor should there have been.

A High Sticking penalty was obviously intended to keep players from swinging their sticks HIGH and wildly into other player's faces, and that is what they must have control over. The real loss of control in this instance was on Franzen's part, because that stick was not moving so much as Franzen's face, in a downward falling motion that Franzen had caused in the first place.

All that's possible, but as I recall it (without replaying it) Setoguchi's stick hit Franzen in the face, and I don't see how his stick could have been perfectly still.

Maybe tomorrow I'll have time to check it out again. Thanks for your reasoned response. :)

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Why don't you wake up and watch those goals again, every goal he gave up a mite player could have stopped. I guess your a "big" man cause you can swear like a big man on the internet. You just don't want to know the truth that howard is NOT a playoff goalie and we are using him like one. If shane doan was in the last series we would have lost in 6 games.

It was one game.

As already stated, Howard> Ozzie right now..

I bet you're the first one to buy a Howard jersey when we take home the cup.:rolleyes:

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