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WCSF Game 1 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Sharks 4

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It was one game.

As already stated, Howard> Ozzie right now..

I bet you're the first one to buy a Howard jersey when we take home the cup.:rolleyes:

EFF YA MAN

GO WINGS!

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Wow, that was quite a game tonight. Wings looked a little tired, not really on their game. The Pavelski line is on fire, gonna have to account for them Sunday. This is likely to free up the Thornton line a little. Ball is in the Wings court, lets see how they return on Sunday.

Wings are wicked on offense, the Sharks are so slow on D. The Sharks are a bear on offense the Wings look old. Which ever team can sustain play in the others end is going to win.

This series is going to go the distance in my opinion.

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All that's possible, but as I recall it (without replaying it) Setoguchi's stick hit Franzen in the face, and I don't see how his stick could have been perfectly still.

Maybe tomorrow I'll have time to check it out again. Thanks for your reasoned response. :)

Just to be clear, it wasn't perfectly still, just not an upward motion into Franzen's face. Setoguchi was basically just holding onto his stick after falling.

On another note, I don't think very many fans on either side are walking away from this saying, "Wow, what a great, well played game." I'm obviously hoping we steal one from you on Sunday, but it would definitely be nice to see any outcome as the result of 60 minutes of real playoff intensity, highlight reel hockey from both sides. I didn't see that consistently from either team in this game.

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Wow, that was quite a game tonight. Wings looked a little tired, not really on their game. The Pavelski line is on fire, gonna have to account for them Sunday. This is likely to free up the Thornton line a little. Ball is in the Wings court, lets see how they return on Sunday.

Wings are wicked on offense, the Sharks are so slow on D. The Sharks are a bear on offense the Wings look old. Which ever team can sustain play in the others end is going to win.

This series is going to go the distance in my opinion.

Pavelski and Setoguchi were definitely the ones to watch coming into to series, and that's certainly the case after one game. They're an impressive duo right now. On our side, it's good to see Franzen and Cleary waking up (the Wings have found something playing Cleary with Miller and Abdelkader), and Datsyuk looked dangerous too. But overall, neither team looked very sharp tonight. The Zetterberg-Filppula-Bertuzzi line was uncharacteristically atrocious tonight, and the Wings didn't generate anything from their back end. I don't expect either to continue.

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Jimmy had a very rough start and Z's line disappeared. That's a devastating combo. I believe it was VS that showed a stat last series that said Jimmy had a 1.75 GAA and .95 Sv% in his last 10 games following a loss (that was before game 4 I think).

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Pavelski and Setoguchi were definitely the ones to watch coming into to series, and that's certainly the case after one game. They're an impressive duo right now. On our side, it's good to see Franzen and Cleary waking up (the Wings have found something playing Cleary with Miller and Abdelkader), and Datsyuk looked dangerous too. But overall, neither team looked very sharp tonight. The Zetterberg-Filppula-Bertuzzi line was uncharacteristically atrocious tonight, and the Wings didn't generate anything from their back end. I don't expect either to continue.

Yea I agree. The pawns got moved tonight. I expect the horses to be let loose on Sunday. Hope Marleau is okay, heard he had a very high fever. I would be really bummed if the team came down with something.

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Just got home from the game. This one was pretty tense for the last 20 minutes. The Sharks did not play a full 60 minutes at all. It was a big barrage at the beginning, followed by holding on mostly at the end. The Wings capitalized on a lot of their chances...it seemed each mistake or gaff that the Sharks made led to a quality chance or goal from the Wings. If they weren't so tired from having game 7 so recently, I think this one might have gone the other way. I was really impressed with how fast the Wings move the puck in the offensive zone. So many one touch passes...it's truly a beautiful thing to watch, no matter what team is doing it. Very happy my guys were able to pull this one out, but I know they'll have to bring a better game if they want to win game 2. The Wings will be fresher and come harder, and certainly wont spot the Sharks a 3 goal advantage early.

As for all the discussion about the officiating, I really can't say. Since I was there live, you only get one look at things unless they show a replay on the video board, and even that isn't nearly what you'd get watching the TV broadcast, so I'll have to watch the recording tomorrow to see for myself. I will say that the most frustrating thing for any team or fan is INCONSISTENCY. Well that and complete incompetence. :) Looking forward to Sunday.

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Wow...

Babs actually said, "Don't dive and embellish" and "You're from Western Canada there's no need for that crap." Haha. I don't think I remember him every calling someone out for diving. At least not as a Wings coach.

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Wow...

Babs actually said, "Don't dive and embellish" and "You're from Western Canada there's no need for that crap." Haha. I don't think I remember him every calling someone out for diving. At least not as a Wings coach.

Haha Wow, that is awesome.

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Just got home from the game. This one was pretty tense for the last 20 minutes. The Sharks did not play a full 60 minutes at all. It was a big barrage at the beginning, followed by holding on mostly at the end. The Wings capitalized on a lot of their chances...it seemed each mistake or gaff that the Sharks made led to a quality chance or goal from the Wings. If they weren't so tired from having game 7 so recently, I think this one might have gone the other way. I was really impressed with how fast the Wings move the puck in the offensive zone. So many one touch passes...it's truly a beautiful thing to watch, no matter what team is doing it. Very happy my guys were able to pull this one out, but I know they'll have to bring a better game if they want to win game 2. The Wings will be fresher and come harder, and certainly wont spot the Sharks a 3 goal advantage early.

As for all the discussion about the officiating, I really can't say. Since I was there live, you only get one look at things unless they show a replay on the video board, and even that isn't nearly what you'd get watching the TV broadcast, so I'll have to watch the recording tomorrow to see for myself. I will say that the most frustrating thing for any team or fan is INCONSISTENCY. Well that and complete incompetence. :) Looking forward to Sunday.

You didn't rough up any Wings fans at the rink, did ya? :lol:

I'm guessing no since you sound reasonable... but it seems that we're not welcome in other teams barns lately...

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That 5-on-3 killed us. We should have been able to capitalize on a few of those powerplay chances though, but we just looked awful on the powerplay. Hopefully the refs decide not to fall for the diving next game because that killed an otherwise alright game.

Yeah, they scored 2 PP goals and we scored 0. It's pretty tough to win playoff games when your PK fails AND your PP fails.

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You didn't rough up any Wings fans at the rink, did ya? :lol:

I'm guessing no since you sound reasonable... but it seems that we're not welcome in other teams barns lately...

Thankfully I have an IQ above 14, so I don't feel the need to resort to violence when something doesn't go my way. :)

Honestly I was surprised at how few wings fans were in the arena in general. Usually they come in droves, but today I only noticed one area on the other side of the tank from me that had a concentration of red. I expect more of you guys at game 2 on Sunday.

Yeah, they scored 2 PP goals and we scored 0. It's pretty tough to win playoff games when your PK fails AND your PP fails.

Even strength goals

Wings 3 - Sharks 2

Special Teams Goals

Sharks 2 - Wings 0

Special teams will win and lose games that would have gone the other way otherwise. They were big tonight.

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Sharks fan, weighing in...

Weird first period. Obviously was great (for me) that the Sharks scored so quickly, but that 3-0 lead only 10 minutes in is something you aren't prepared for on either side of the ice. The Sharks definitely showed a lot of bend but thankfully did not break. Similar game to one the Sharks played in Calgary two years ago in the playoffs where they went up 3-0 in the first and ultimately ended up losing. I thought it would take 5 goals to win this one and luckily the Sharks got by scoring only 4.

Officiating was decent. Wings player (forget who exactly, but I am sure you guys remember) embellished a call early on for that Boyle penalty and Setoguchi also made sure the refs saw the high stick to draw the penalty on the PP. The tripping call where Franzen was cut wasn't really diving or embellishment as Seto was legitimately tripped. Whether or not Seto should have also been penalized I am not sure because I don't know the exact ruling on a player's responsibility for his stick when he is being infracted upon. I realize you guys are, on the whole, pissed at the refs but honestly I have never seen a team's forum (including the Sharks') that hasn't cried murder in regards to officiating when they lose a game, so that's just how that goes. However, it be interesting to see in the next game if the refs are more compelled to make a call against the Sharks during a Red Wings PP since the Sharks received a 5-3 in this one that ultimately decided the game.

Very impressed, as I was all season long, with the Wings ability to control the puck in the offensive zone. Sharks were showing way too much respect and letting your forwards take the blue line at will; they have to stand guys up at the blue line better and protect entrance into the zone. Wings pretty much took over for most of the game after the 10 minute mark in the first with the sharks showing only splashes of offensive play.

Was also impressed with Thornton tonight. I know you guys lovingly call him things like no-show joe and "a giant ******" but he was finishing hits tonight and had a great pass to Heatley on that goal. This was a quality playoff game for him, although I believe he can still do more. Would still love to see him shoot the puck every once in a while but after watching him play about 450 games now I should just get used to the fact that that is not going to happen

Was not impressed with Blake tonight. At times during the Colorado series he looked energized and in complete control of the game. Tonight he looked slow and was consistently beaten to the puck. A team with excellent skating like the Wings can really punish the sharks lack of speed on defense.

Will be interesting to see if Marleau becomes a factor in game 2. He has obviously been criticized just as much as Thornton for not making enough impact in the playoffs but he is a 40+ goal scorer and if he can find his game he can really improve the Sharks chances.

Red Wings have to like the way they played tonight after the ten minute mark, Sharks have to like that they got the win. Both teams are probably pretty satisfied right now and won't feel any pressure at the start of Game 2. I think this bodes well for Detroit because I think this Sharks team plays better when they feel that urgency to score. Game 2 might be a blowout unless the Sharks continue to execute efficiently on scoring chances and improve their defensive zone coverage.

Oh and that deke by Datsyuk was sick. Glad nabby saved the shot.

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Sharks fan, weighing in...

Weird first period. Obviously was great (for me) that the Sharks scored so quickly, but that 3-0 lead only 10 minutes in is something you aren't prepared for on either side of the ice. The Sharks definitely showed a lot of bend but thankfully did not break. Similar game to one the Sharks played in Calgary two years ago in the playoffs where they went up 3-0 in the first and ultimately ended up losing. I thought it would take 5 goals to win this one and luckily the Sharks got by scoring only 4.

Officiating was decent. Wings player (forget who exactly, but I am sure you guys remember) embellished a call early on for that Boyle penalty and Setoguchi also made sure the refs saw the high stick to draw the penalty on the PP. The tripping call where Franzen was cut wasn't really diving or embellishment as Seto was legitimately tripped. Whether or not Seto should have also been penalized I am not sure because I don't know the exact ruling on a player's responsibility for his stick when he is being infracted upon. I realize you guys are, on the whole, pissed at the refs but honestly I have never seen a team's forum (including the Sharks') that hasn't cried murder in regards to officiating when they lose a game, so that's just how that goes. However, it be interesting to see in the next game if the refs are more compelled to make a call against the Sharks during a Red Wings PP since the Sharks received a 5-3 in this one that ultimately decided the game.

Very impressed, as I was all season long, with the Wings ability to control the puck in the offensive zone. Sharks were showing way too much respect and letting your forwards take the blue line at will; they have to stand guys up at the blue line better and protect entrance into the zone. Wings pretty much took over for most of the game after the 10 minute mark in the first with the sharks showing only splashes of offensive play.

Was also impressed with Thornton tonight. I know you guys lovingly call him things like no-show joe and "a giant ******" but he was finishing hits tonight and had a great pass to Heatley on that goal. This was a quality playoff game for him, although I believe he can still do more. Would still love to see him shoot the puck every once in a while but after watching him play about 450 games now I should just get used to the fact that that is not going to happen

Was not impressed with Blake tonight. At times during the Colorado series he looked energized and in complete control of the game. Tonight he looked slow and was consistently beaten to the puck. A team with excellent skating like the Wings can really punish the sharks lack of speed on defense.

Will be interesting to see if Marleau becomes a factor in game 2. He has obviously been criticized just as much as Thornton for not making enough impact in the playoffs but he is a 40+ goal scorer and if he can find his game he can really improve the Sharks chances.

Red Wings have to like the way they played tonight after the ten minute mark, Sharks have to like that they got the win. Both teams are probably pretty satisfied right now and won't feel any pressure at the start of Game 2. I think this bodes well for Detroit because I think this Sharks team plays better when they feel that urgency to score. Game 2 might be a blowout unless the Sharks continue to execute efficiently on scoring chances and improve their defensive zone coverage.

Oh and that deke by Datsyuk was sick. Glad nabby saved the shot.

There is plenty more where that came from. I am too tired to read your whole post... It's about 4 am here. Cya Sunday. Go Wings :siren:

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Story of the game, 3goals in a 1:19 Span that's just not good enough, the lilja&ericsson pairing was terrible to see, per usual.

Haven't checked the faceoff stats but felt like they lost TONS in this game, gotta be better

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First of all this team did not look that bad. Second of all, when was the last time this team had more than one day's rest between games and had to travel during that time. Also, I'd like to know why Chicago/Vancouver wasn't playing last night. They certainly didn't play a game seven. How many days have they had off?

Anyway, I'm looking for defininately a better rested team on Sunday.

GO WINGS!!!

Why don't you wake up and watch those goals again, every goal he gave up a mite player could have stopped. I guess your a "big" man cause you can swear like a big man on the internet. You just don't want to know the truth that howard is NOT a playoff goalie and we are using him like one. If shane doan was in the last series we would have lost in 6 games.

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Why don't you go and become a Sharks fan...no wait...how about a Pens fan (don't mean to insult our Sharks fans that are on the board). Man what a whiner you are. How old are you? Hey maybe Crosby has an extra pacifier for you to help you in these times.

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Quick sidenote, did anyone else see the little shark motions the crowd were doing whenever they go on the PP?

I've never noticed it before, have they always done that?

It looks really funny.

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Wow, that was quite a game tonight. Wings looked a little tired, not really on their game. The Pavelski line is on fire, gonna have to account for them Sunday. This is likely to free up the Thornton line a little. Ball is in the Wings court, lets see how they return on Sunday.

Wings are wicked on offense, the Sharks are so slow on D. The Sharks are a bear on offense the Wings look old. Which ever team can sustain play in the others end is going to win.

This series is going to go the distance in my opinion.

Really? This old cliche again? That's been dispelled over and over again.

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Quick sidenote, did anyone else see the little shark motions the crowd were doing whenever they go on the PP?

I've never noticed it before, have they always done that?

It looks really funny.

Yes, it's been a tradition there for years, almost from the beginning actually, same as the playing of Gary Glitter's "Rock and Roll Part 2" after each Sharks goal. It's the "chomp", done just before the Sharks begin their PP, while the Jaws theme music is playing. Arms extended outward, fingers on each hand facing up and down toward each other to make the shark's teeth, and you bring them together, up and down, like a jaw chomping down.

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Just to be clear, it wasn't perfectly still, just not an upward motion into Franzen's face. Setoguchi was basically just holding onto his stick after falling.

On another note, I don't think very many fans on either side are walking away from this saying, "Wow, what a great, well played game." I'm obviously hoping we steal one from you on Sunday, but it would definitely be nice to see any outcome as the result of 60 minutes of real playoff intensity, highlight reel hockey from both sides. I didn't see that consistently from either team in this game.

I agree with your second part. However, because Setoguchi obviously sees no problem with blatant diving, his intentions will remain questionable and suspicious.

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Gotta say, I'm not entirely unhappy with the result last night. I only worry in a playoff series when we can't get anything past the goalie. Tired from Game 7 and late travel, battling s***ty calls, and yet the Sharks basically escaped with a one-goal win. Give Setoguchi the six minutes of penalties he deserved and the outcome could have been entirely different.

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After having some time to sleep on it, I agree with many of the Wings fans here.

Detroit played a good game. Wasn't an excellent game like they did in Game 7, but it was a good one. Even playing a good game they lost 4-3. 3 of those goals were scored during a 1:20 second brain fart by the team. Sharks got some bounces and capitalized. I thought that both teams looked pretty even overall.

Are there places that Detroit could do better? Absolutely. The power play had 4 shots on 5 attempts. I thought that was pretty bad. The Sharks special teams were good, scoring on 2 power plays, but a 4 on 3 and 5 on 3 are very hard to kill.

I know a lot of Wings fans are blaming the refs. I used to give the refs a hard time too, until I started reffing. If there is anything that I have learned, its that the refs call it like they see it and the game is going a million miles per hour out there. So much to pay attention to. That Franzen penalty and high stick on him was so fast, I had to slow it down to see it. I didn't know how he got hurt at first. Still, I probably would have evened the calls up, but I am not out there. The Setoguchi dive was pretty bad, but why the hell did the Wings player have his stick up in his throat area to begin with? That could have been a high stick, slash, or hook for that matter.

This is why you play a 7 game series. One bad game does not cost you a series. One game where the refs miss calls for your team does not cost you the game. Remember the Lidstrom high stick in game 1 of the Phoenix series? I thought LGW was going to implode when that happened and there was no call. In the end, the Wings came out ok in that series. They would have eliminated Phoenix in 6 if they didn't play lazy in a few games. When you are your own worst enemy, you have no one to blame but yourself.

If the Wings just worry about their play in the series, they will take this one in 6 games. If they complain about the reffing and why they aren't getting what they are entitled to, they will lose out. The Wings are consummate professionals and will play a better game on Sunday.

Oh, and Howard hasn't lost back to back games in about two months. I like our chances on Sunday.

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