I Respect-ED The Sharks

[KrazyGangsta 79]

Until:

Who else agrees with me?

Edited May 3, 2010 by KrazyGangsta

[MTU_Huskies963 398]

I did too, if there was one team I wanted to win the cup other than the wings it was them (better than the pens/hawks). Not now, I have never seen so much diving in my life. They drop to the ice from any contact. It's not just one player it's all of them. It's to the point where I think todd is telling them to dive.

[titanium2 867]

What did you respect about them in the first place?

That they are playoff underachievers?

[KrazyGangsta 79]

What did you respect about them in the first place?

That they are playoff underachievers?

Yes they we're but it was always a team that I wouldn't mind seeing them win the cup, all tho after this year they have disgusted me. Agreed with the poster above also, every play they seem to stumble down.

[Travis 576]

I respect their fan base, especially after dealing with the up-start Coyotes fans that have followed hockey for 2 1/2 weeks. Setoguchi is really the only one that drives me nuts, not just because of powerplay opportunities - but because I can't respect a guy that flops all over the ice.

[I Red Wings I 40]

Diving with Sharks, take 2

[stuck in socal 56]

I didn't think they would be a tough opponent for the Wings either. Boy, this is a different Shark team then the past.

[Zetts 236]

They do dive, and the reffing did suck. But neither were bad enough that they would have stopped a team that really deserves to win the Cup. And I'm confident that we'll see that version of the Wings back in Detroit.

Oh, and I never respected the Sharks.

[Guest DatsyukianDeke13]

Wings would be up 2-0 if it wasn't for the refs. This is not a different sharks team.

[KrazyGangsta 79]

I didn't think they would be a tough opponent for the Wings either. Boy, this is a different Shark team then the past.

I don't want to take anything away from the Sharks, they are playing very good and are a much better team then in the past but the diving needs to stop, it's ridiculous.

3/4 of this team keeps diving.

[Barrie 900]

I've really been disgusted with the Sharks diving and the no diving calls yet by the refs! It's funny how European's are thought of as divers, and the Sharks are the team in this series with more Canadians.

I'm starting to see a trend in hockey the last few years where the Canadian born hockey players seem to have the least amount of class compared to players born in other countries.

Maybe it's because I'm a Red Wings fan, I don't know, but it seems like Canadians now are the first to whine and complain to the refs, deliver cheap shots and hits from behind, dive, and lose their temper the fastest. The Europeans now seem to be more cool headed under pressure, don't whine as much, don't cheap shot as much, and don't tend to dive as much. They seem to be a more classier bunch.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but if you read my posts around the Olympics, you saw how unimpressed I was with the Canadian Olympic team and I'm Canadian! I saw most of those guys as hot heads, whiners, and cheap shot artists.

[stuck in socal 56]

Wings would be up 2-0 if it wasn't for the refs. This is not a different sharks team.

I disagree. First of all, they have better role players, Malhotra. Second, Pavelski is playing great. Props to him. They still have a threat in the Jumbo Joe, and Heatley is always a threat. They are more physical also. They are a better team than last time we played them and they have a great coach.

[titanium2 867]

Yes they we're but it was always a team that I wouldn't mind seeing them win the cup, all tho after this year they have disgusted me. Agreed with the poster above also, every play they seem to stumble down.

See I don't know about that for me personally. Jumbo Joe has always been a ******. As well as Dan "slewfoot" Boyle. I've never been impressed with Marleau. Ever since the game against Canada I've had no respect for Nabokov. Heatley is just a moron. I mean, they're not the Ducks of the past or the Pens with Cooke and company but there are definitely more teams that I'd like to see win besides the Sharks.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

[Yak19 303]

what is the point of this?

im sure sharks fans care when their team is up 2-0

[MotorCityMadness 388]

I went to an AHL playoff game between Chicago and Texas earlier today and the game had 2 different instances where diving was called (Chelios got one of them)

[stuck in socal 56]

I went to an AHL playoff game between Chicago and Texas earlier today and the game had 2 different instances where diving was called (Chelios got one of them)

For some reason, that made me laugh. I miss Chelly.

[thegerkin 189]

See I don't know about that for me personally. Jumbo Joe has always been a ******. As well as Dan "slewfoot" Boyle. I've never been impressed with Marleau. Ever since the game against Canada I've had no respect for Nabokov. Heatley is just a moron. I mean, they're not the Ducks of the past or the Pens with Cooke and company but there are definitely more teams that I'd like to see win besides the Sharks.

The only player they have that's really clicking is Pavalski. As much as the refs are killing us by calling penalties on Shark dives, but in those situations, the refs aren't bring 1 of each to the box when it happens. The diving turns into a Shark power play, which turns into them feeding Pavalski pucks at the point, which results in a goal more than half the time. (I'm not going to get into the 5-on-3, someone already pointed out that Kronner took a legit hook to make it a 2-man advantage.)

I honestly really thought diving was 95% out of hockey. Yes, a goalie may flop. Yes, some hooks are embellished. BUT THAT IS EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. Sorry for the caps, trying to make a point. Until we played this round (I can't remember too much of the regular season meetings between the Sharks and us, so I can say anything about diving there) I thought the refs had a decent season (yuck, I can taste the bile coming up from the beer on that sentence). This serious is an abomination. Atrocious even. The Sharks have being diving continuously and they call Darren Helm in Game 1 on a dive? At least they took both (obstruction/diving). This year's playoff Sharks are sickening to watch (not just as a Red Wings fan, but a hockey purist as well).

[Drake_Marcus 890]

In other words: "My team dives like Crosby and Forsberg's lovechild but you're a big meanie for pointing it out."

I've really been disgusted with the Sharks diving and the no diving calls yet by the refs! It's funny how European's are thought of as divers, and the Sharks are the team in this series with more Canadians.

I'm starting to see a trend in hockey the last few years where the Canadian born hockey players seem to have the least amount of class compared to players born in other countries.

Maybe it's because I'm a Red Wings fan, I don't know, but it seems like Canadians now are the first to whine and complain to the refs, deliver cheap shots and hits from behind, dive, and lose their temper the fastest. The Europeans now seem to be more cool headed under pressure, don't whine as much, don't cheap shot as much, and don't tend to dive as much. They seem to be a more classier bunch.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but if you read my posts around the Olympics, you saw how unimpressed I was with the Canadian Olympic team and I'm Canadian! I saw most of those guys as hot heads, whiners, and cheap shot artists.

I'd pay $10 to watch you say that to Don Cherry. His reaction would be epic. I assume it'd look like a scene from Scanners.

[titanium2 867]

Hahaha. Yeah right. If the shoe were on the other foot you'd have the same damn complaints. Only difference is that we Wings fans don't care enough to go on other team's boards.

[TheSupafly 50]

Hahaha. Yeah right. If the shoe were on the other foot you'd have the same damn complaints. Only difference is that we Wings fans don't care enough to go on other team's boards.

Don't forget that you wings fans,

A) Have a TON more fans of your team in general

B) Have a team that's been around since the NHL's inception, and even before that, thus allowing "A" to happen

Your boards have a lot more traffic and a lot more discussions as a result. Your need to go to another team's boards is way less than say someone like me.

Forgive me for the string of posts that are coming, I'm not very good at internet stuff and things so I have yet to master the responding to multiple posts with quotes in only one post.

[YMHC 23]

funny, but I bet this was you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYfJ9vxx8os

[TheSupafly 50]

Wings would be up 2-0 if it wasn't for the refs. This is not a different sharks team.

This is a very different Sharks team. At the beginning of the season there were 9 different names on the roster, and the number has only gone up since then. As a result the team got thinner on D, deeper at forward, better in the faceoff circle (do NOT make the mistake of underestimating the importance of this), and tougher/grittier in general.

As a fellow fan of a puck possession team, I know you MUST understand how significant the acquisitions of Malhotra and Nichol were. The importance of getting the puck on the draw vs the wings is magnified by how good you guys are with the puck. Keeping the puck off the Wings' sticks is paramount to the success of the Sharks.

The Sharks are not as fast as they have been, but they sure are tougher along the boards and in front of the net...areas that they were weak in the past.

Would the wings be up 2-0 if not for the refs? Hard to say. You need to convert on the chances you get/earn. If you asked your team why it was down 2-0, do you think they'd blame the reffing? Do you think they'd even be thinking that? I'd guess they'd be more concerned with trying to not take those penalties or do anything close to even give the refs that option. They'd probably point to their lack of execution on special teams in game 1. They'd point to their lack of success in the faceoff circle in game 2. I believe Babcock said as much in his postgame interview.

It's not time to panic yet for the Wings. You have an immensely talented team. Both games were very close. The series shifts to the Joe now...I think we both know the history these two teams have in that building. If I were a Wings fan, I would be confident that my team can come home and win two games. As a Sharks fan, I'm confident that my team can earn at least a split in Detroit and come back to SJ still in control of the series. As a hockey fan, I'm excited to watch another close game between two great teams.

Looking forward to Tuesday.

funny, but I bet this was you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYfJ9vxx8os

I remember the first time I saw that. Painful to watch. Pathetic really. Everyone could pick out an embarrassing fan of their own team...unfortunately ours ended up broadcasting his very mature gesticulations to the internet, and we all know how that usually turns out.

funny, but I bet this was you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYfJ9vxx8os

I remember the first time I saw that. Painful to watch. Pathetic really. Everyone could pick out an embarrassing fan of their own team...unfortunately ours ended up broadcasting his very mature gesticulations to the internet, and we all know how that usually turns out.

Sorry for that double post...didn't realize it tacked a 2nd reply on like that. Nice feature!

Edited May 3, 2010 by TheSupafly

[55fan 5,133]

TSN had a bit during intermission about diving and how more Canadians have been called for diving than any other group this year.

[TheSupafly 50]

I disagree. First of all, they have better role players, Malhotra. Second, Pavelski is playing great. Props to him. They still have a threat in the Jumbo Joe, and Heatley is always a threat. They are more physical also. They are a better team than last time we played them and they have a great coach.

Don't forget Nichol who has been contributing very valuable minutes, as well as Couture playing some big minutes as well. Even the baby line with McGinn and Helminen have been logging some decent ice time. The Sharks' depth at forward has allowed them to mix and match pieces, like moving Marleau down with Mitchell and Malhotra, or moving Couture or Mitchell up with Thornton and Heatley. When Heater or Patty miss a game, the team doesn't really miss a beat like it would have in years past. That flexibility makes it difficult for Detroit to match up their D. Who do you play your best D pairing against? That plus Pavelski's line being on fire makes it very tough...especially with having to make the first change. In Detroit, it will be easier for them to manage being at home.

I'm with you though stuck in socal, this team is indeed different.