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#21 CenterIce

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:40 AM

With our luck, we will probably get O'Halloran for game 3.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:41 AM

Berts Penalty was :thumbdown: but drapers reaction was :hehe:
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:42 AM

"If the refs give calls both ways (meaning that PPs end up about even at the end of the game), as well as let them play the game (don't call every damn thing) then both teams will play to their potential and the Wings will win."
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PP's should not automatically come out even at the end of the game. they should come out however the game was played. if one team ends up with more than the other, that s usually an idication that team commited more penalties than the other team. what you are saying, is you expect makeup calls just beacuse one team cant keep up, and has to hook/hold/trip/interfere, to stay in the game.

id say that makeup calls, just for the sake of making the PPs "even" is worse than any non-call/phantom call out there.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:45 AM

Food for thought, comments from one of the tin foil hat wearers:

"Remember the NBA ref who confessed to fixing games? He also acknowledged the league's (Bettman at the time) involvement in helping to make sure it gets the outcomes it desires for TV ratings, franchise help, merch sales, etc. He claimed on 60 Minutes he could predict the outcome of a game 80% of the time just by reading the pre-game league memo to the officials"

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Pretty much. It's really hard for people to imagine that let alone accept it.

#25 Namtaru

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:45 AM

Berts Penalty was :thumbdown: but drapers reaction was :hehe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWjmgdu87dQ

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:05 PM

With our luck, we will probably get O'Halloran for game 3.



Please don't even joke about something like that.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:09 PM

If reffing can fixed while Bettman was affiliated (third in command, also involved with marketing) with the NBA, what surprises everyone that it can be done with him being the commissioner in the NHL? The guy is a piece of dook. He is making bank while he can here in the NHL.

The calls were extremely lopsided in game 2; almost a full period of PP for SJ. It was shocking to see the Wings get a full power-play that game. No way you can win a game in that situation, unless the other team has a really s***ty PP. It was like the refs had a magnifying glass on everything the Wings did, but turned a blind-eye to many of SJ infractions. To me, this made the game unwatchable. I have even talked to some SJ fans that even thought the reffing was garbage. Oh well, hopefully the Wings can overcome this s*** reffing (as usual) and come out on top next game :D.

Reason for editing: Bettman was third in command with NBA.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:11 PM

If reffing can be fixed when Bettman was the commissioner of the NBA,




Bettman was never commissioner of the NBA. He was senior VP and general counsel for the NBA, but he never ran the league. David Stern has been the commish since 1984.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:13 PM

I'm just wondering where these articles are. I'd love to see what the media is saying because i cant really find anything that is not from a rabid wings fan.




Here's one

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#30 henrik40

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:13 PM

My favorite part of the game was blatant make up call when Stuart hammered someone (Pavelski maybe?) into Howard and they called goalie interference. Laughable.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:16 PM

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWjmgdu87dQ"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=pWjmgdu87dQ[/url]


"HOLDING?!"
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Exactly what I thought when I saw it. Except the second thing was like when you see something that shouldn't exist in our universe (like a Mariah Carey movie) and you say "WOW, really?!

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:19 PM

I just wish the refs would call the game fair. I didn't have time to read over many posts but, the refs were FOR SURE calling bulls*** penalty on detroit. Some were BS, some weren't. That slash by cleary, that was a good call, but the hook that was called on kron. That was bs if I can remember it correctly. I guess the refs knew they were messing up, so they ATTEMPTED to even it out by giving Healthy that BS goalie interference call.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:19 PM

Bettman was never commissioner of the NBA. He was senior VP and general counsel for the NBA, but he never ran the league. David Stern has been the commish since 1984.


Misinformation on my part, my bad. Third in command. I'll edit that post.

Edited by bd2988, 03 May 2010 - 12:20 PM.


#34 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:19 PM

*Some* of the Wings' game 2 penalties were deserved, however, stuff isn't getting called both ways and San Jose is also be rewarded for constant diving.

We deserved to lose Game 1, but Game 2 could have been ours if it was called evenly. I have no idea why the calls were so lop-sided.


absolutely there has been lots of diving. setoguchi and nabokov have officially been passed the torch from the limp wrist of the divealanche.

if the diving penalties are called instead of the bulls*** calls on the wings, this series is 2-0 wings. plain and simple.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:10 PM

Here's one


I like how they mention Helm's "dive" when his was one of the calls that simply looked like he lost his footing instead of actually diving.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:17 PM

lets just hope the hockey gods are watching and decide to incur their own fair play justice.
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:27 PM

I don't want a well-officated game on Tuesday. Screw that - I want ten powerplays for the Red Wings and some calls against the Sharks at the worst time, preferably diving at least five times. I'm bitter, I want some justice for the worst officiated hockey game I can remember.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:43 PM

We all know that the Versus and NBC crews do not "like" the Red Wings. So, it is my opinion that when even the Versus commentators (and not just us Wings fans) start questioning calls, something is very, very wrong with the officiating
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 03:24 PM

When you have no idea what to expect from the officiating from one game to the next something is seriously wrong!!!

This is the current state of hockey. It is very sad.

Other sports have intelligent enough people in control who make changes, improve the integrity of the sport and appease the fans.

But hockey is full of morons in control who only care about selling tickets and not improving the integrity of the game.

The only way fans can fight back is to stop supporting this nonsense. I, for one, will cancel my DirecTV package that includes Versus and cancel my NHL Center Ice subscription for next year. And when the NHL decides to improve the integrity of the game I will return. It can be something as simple as reviewing the penalties. An average game has about 6 penalties. With today's TV technology and with having a ref in the booth penalties can be reviewed in less than a minute. It is worth spending an extra 6 minutes watching a game if it is judge fairly and evenly. It would eliminate ALL this nonsense.
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 03:34 PM

Listening to 97.1 on my way home from class, and they are saying that the NHL is reviewing the tape of game two closely today for officiating stuff. Could this mean that a positive change could be made for game three on out? Could they finally notice Seto and Co. diving and start calling it?

All I can say is if the officiating doesn't improve tremendously for tomorrows game after taking today to review the tape(s) then this league is in fact a joke.





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