Supface 53 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 i was watching 100 greatest 90's songs on vh1 earlier and Snow's Informer was on and the troll mentioned it earlier in this thread. weird... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 The point is, he was awful here. He didn't fit in at all. Just because he is doing well somewhere else (good for him btw) doesn't mean that anyone wishes he was back. Anyone that has watched him play for the Wings with any regularity in past knows that he doesn't fit on the Wings. So... in response to the original point of the thread. NO, I don't miss him in a Wings uniform or wish he was back. Do you? Honestly? Kopecky is a solid all-around player. He's not a superstar. He's not going to be a superstar. He's better than Draper and Maltby. He's probably better than most guys who make his salary, as weird as that might sound to you. But he's a solid third-line forward, so I wouldn't say he's overpaid. I don't know if I'd want him back except maybe on the fourth line in place of Draper, but most teams would be glad to have him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Namingway 146 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Kopecky has indeed been better with the Hawks than he was with the Wings but the fact is that he wasn't that great when he was here. I think it's only normal for him to be producing better numbers with the minutes they give him over there. Either way I'd still rather have Samuelsson back instead of Kopecky, any day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Kopecky is a solid all-around player. He's not a superstar. He's not going to be a superstar. He's better than Draper and Maltby. He's probably better than most guys who make his salary, as weird as that might sound to you. But he's a solid third-line forward, so I wouldn't say he's overpaid. I don't know if I'd want him back except maybe on the fourth line in place of Draper, but most teams would be glad to have him. Offense: Below average Defense: Poor Hands: Poor Speed: Terrible Acceleration: Horrendous Physical Style: Borderline He's not very good. He's playing on a line with two excellent players. There's his success. 1 soultrain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Offense: Below average Defense: Poor Hands: Poor Speed: Terrible Acceleration: Horrendous Physical Style: Borderline He's not very good. He's playing on a line with two excellent players. There's his success. Kopecky is better than you credit him for. No, he's not a top-six forward. But he can play like one on good nights and he is a solid third line checking forward. You act like he isn't good enough to be in the NHL, even though he is the #8 forward and receives regular PP time on one of the league's top teams, and he is playing well in the postseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) Kopecky is a solid all-around player. He's not a superstar. He's not going to be a superstar. He's better than Draper and Maltby. He's probably better than most guys who make his salary, as weird as that might sound to you. But he's a solid third-line forward, so I wouldn't say he's overpaid. I don't know if I'd want him back except maybe on the fourth line in place of Draper, but most teams would be glad to have him. In retrospect... I would have preferred Kopecky over Leino. Cap hit aside, of course. Edited May 8, 2010 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Kopecky is better than you credit him for. No, he's not a top-six forward. But he can play like one on good nights and he is a solid third line checking forward. You act like he isn't good enough to be in the NHL, even though he is the #8 forward and receives regular PP time on one of the league's top teams, and he is playing well in the postseason. For the Wings, he was terrible. He was a waste of a roster space during the regular season, and his injuries in the past two postseasons turned out to be positive events for the team. You have been implying that he was a valuable player who should not have been let go. In reality, he was almost inarguably the least useful player on the roster. He excelled in no area whatsoever; in fact, he was below average in virtually every area save size. 1 Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Kopecky is a solid all-around player. He's not a superstar. He's not going to be a superstar. He's better than Draper and Maltby. He's probably better than most guys who make his salary, as weird as that might sound to you. But he's a solid third-line forward, so I wouldn't say he's overpaid. I don't know if I'd want him back except maybe on the fourth line in place of Draper, but most teams would be glad to have him. Most teams have a bottom 6 full of players just as good or better. Most AHL teams have several players as good or better. He may be a 'solid all around' NHL 3rd/4th liner, but there's nothing even remotely special about him. There's nothing to miss. There's nothing to want him for, because there's 500 other guys in and out of the NHL that can do the same job just as well. He's not any better than Draper. At least not so much that it would make any difference. Pav, Hank, Mule, Flip, Homer, Bert, Cleary, Helm, Abby, Miller, Eaves, Draper, May, Willy, Ritola...are we really supposed to give a s*** about a player that maybe wouldn't even make the lineup? I don't even know Chicago's roster that well, but I'd still be willing to bet that they have several players available that could replace Kopy without significantly weakening the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Most teams have a bottom 6 full of players just as good or better. Most AHL teams have several players as good or better. He may be a 'solid all around' NHL 3rd/4th liner, but there's nothing even remotely special about him. There's nothing to miss. There's nothing to want him for, because there's 500 other guys in and out of the NHL that can do the same job just as well. He's not any better than Draper. At least not so much that it would make any difference. Pav, Hank, Mule, Flip, Homer, Bert, Cleary, Helm, Abby, Miller, Eaves, Draper, May, Willy, Ritola...are we really supposed to give a s*** about a player that maybe wouldn't even make the lineup? I don't even know Chicago's roster that well, but I'd still be willing to bet that they have several players available that could replace Kopy without significantly weakening the team. Yup. I don't get what's so remarkable about him to anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Kopecky is a ***** and he sucks. /thread 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest L3T5G0W1NG5 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 LOL @ how Eva goes out of his way to change his font. 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 f*** Kopecky. Abdelkader>Kopecky forever and always babyyy, he's still a big oaf who cant do more then stand in front and wait for passes from his butt buddy Hossa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Whoa, this guy's got more goals in the playoffs than Hossa! Must be a real stud. 2 Zeowingsfan and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bannedforlife 403 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Enjoy our scraps. You mean sloppy seconds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MCleveland89 122 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Just because he's doing good on another team, doesn't mean he'll do good here. You need chemistry and he just didn't have it here. Look at Sammy. He's been great this year but wasn't anything special last year with us. You don't change that much over night. I'd take Kopecky over Leino, but that isn't saying a whole lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Wow, so much for all the false hatertude that this man has gotten on this very forum all year, eh? He has been dominant for the hated Chicago Blackhawks, eh? He is a large contributer to Chicago's success against the Canucks in Canada. How much do Wing fans wish they still had Kopekcy or, at least, that he wasn't a Chicago Blackhawk? Man, those Blackhawks are good. Kopecky, is that you? 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 This thread makes Tomas Kopecky very sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Kopecky is a joke, I like how no one mentioned Chicago has been throwing him on a line with his girlfriend Hossa which is where he generated the majority of his playoff points. Jesus, can't believe we're back to talking about this clown...especially after he did NOTHING for the Wings EVER. 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Most teams have a bottom 6 full of players just as good or better. Most AHL teams have several players as good or better. He may be a 'solid all around' NHL 3rd/4th liner, but there's nothing even remotely special about him. There's nothing to miss. There's nothing to want him for, because there's 500 other guys in and out of the NHL that can do the same job just as well. He's not any better than Draper. At least not so much that it would make any difference. Pav, Hank, Mule, Flip, Homer, Bert, Cleary, Helm, Abby, Miller, Eaves, Draper, May, Willy, Ritola...are we really supposed to give a s*** about a player that maybe wouldn't even make the lineup? I don't even know Chicago's roster that well, but I'd still be willing to bet that they have several players available that could replace Kopy without significantly weakening the team. I really don't think Kopecky would just be ending the first year of a multi-million dollar contract if there were an average of 16+ players per NHL team who could replace him. Seems like a small exaggeration, don't you think? Perhaps 150-200 players could do his job just as well, but that is including maybe 50-75 top-six forwards. So we're left with anywhere from 75-150 players who are better than Kopecky at his job AND are on their team just to do that job. No, swapping out Kopecky with Draper probably wouldn't make much of a difference with the current team. But the fact remains that on most teams in the league, Kopecky would likely have a job in the bottom 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 haha remember when he got his ass kicked in the playoffs last year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoe 165 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Guy was always injured in the playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings 2010 9 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 Kopecky is a loser. He isn't that great of a player, he gets pushed away, punched in the face, and thrown out of his position very easily. Yeah, he got a goal, and what? Even a goalie can score every once in awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 haha remember when he got his ass kicked in the playoffs last year So tell me, since you seem to be the type who ******* incessantly about enforcers... Who do you prefer: Someone who stands up for his teammates and fights, but doesn't always win OR Someone who chirps at the opposing team and then skates away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 So tell me, since you seem to be the type who ******* incessantly about enforcers... Who do you prefer: Someone who stands up for his teammates and fights, but doesn't always win OR Someone who chirps at the opposing team and then skates away. If this means Kopecky then I say take the person who runs his gate and skates away. Seriously a guy his size, constantly falling all over the place like hes playing the game with a half case of beer in him, barely has a physical side, and wants a 1.2 million contract. Isn't Eva the one on this forum who constantly is talking about Holland is smarter then all of us when he's talking about his little midget buddy Hudler coming back but now he's saying we shoulda kept Kopecky? How many games did you watch last season Eva? Or did you recently hit your head really hard because Kopecky is TERRIBLE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted May 8, 2010 If this means Kopecky then I say take the person who runs his gate and skates away. Seriously a guy his size, constantly falling all over the place like hes playing the game with a half case of beer in him, barely has a physical side, and wants a 1.2 million contract. Isn't Eva the one on this forum who constantly is talking about Holland is smarter then all of us when he's talking about his little midget buddy Hudler coming back but now he's saying we shoulda kept Kopecky? How many games did you watch last season Eva? Or did you recently hit your head really hard because Kopecky is TERRIBLE Kopecky was and still is a waste of a roster spot.Doesn't deserve half of what he's making.Whoever even hints at saying Kopecky is anywhere near good should seriously get their head checked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites