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#41 VM1138

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 08:19 AM

Wow, so much for all the false hatertude that this man has gotten on this very forum all year, eh? He has been dominant for the hated Chicago Blackhawks, eh? He is a large contributer to Chicago's success against the Canucks in Canada. How much do Wing fans wish they still had Kopekcy or, at least, that he wasn't a Chicago Blackhawk? Man, those Blackhawks are good.



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Posted 08 May 2010 - 08:54 AM

This thread makes Tomas Kopecky very sad. :( :crybaby:

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 09:01 AM

Kopecky is a joke, I like how no one mentioned Chicago has been throwing him on a line with his girlfriend Hossa which is where he generated the majority of his playoff points. Jesus, can't believe we're back to talking about this clown...especially after he did NOTHING for the Wings EVER.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 09:51 AM

Most teams have a bottom 6 full of players just as good or better. Most AHL teams have several players as good or better.

He may be a 'solid all around' NHL 3rd/4th liner, but there's nothing even remotely special about him. There's nothing to miss. There's nothing to want him for, because there's 500 other guys in and out of the NHL that can do the same job just as well. He's not any better than Draper. At least not so much that it would make any difference.

Pav, Hank, Mule, Flip, Homer, Bert, Cleary, Helm, Abby, Miller, Eaves, Draper, May, Willy, Ritola...are we really supposed to give a s*** about a player that maybe wouldn't even make the lineup?

I don't even know Chicago's roster that well, but I'd still be willing to bet that they have several players available that could replace Kopy without significantly weakening the team.


I really don't think Kopecky would just be ending the first year of a multi-million dollar contract if there were an average of 16+ players per NHL team who could replace him. Seems like a small exaggeration, don't you think?

Perhaps 150-200 players could do his job just as well, but that is including maybe 50-75 top-six forwards. So we're left with anywhere from 75-150 players who are better than Kopecky at his job AND are on their team just to do that job. No, swapping out Kopecky with Draper probably wouldn't make much of a difference with the current team. But the fact remains that on most teams in the league, Kopecky would likely have a job in the bottom 6.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 10:03 AM

haha remember when he got his ass kicked in the playoffs last year

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 10:14 AM

Guy was always injured in the playoffs

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 10:21 AM

Kopecky is a loser. He isn't that great of a player, he gets pushed away, punched in the face, and thrown out of his position very easily. Yeah, he got a goal, and what? Even a goalie can score every once in awhile.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 10:27 AM

haha remember when he got his ass kicked in the playoffs last year


So tell me, since you seem to be the type who ******* incessantly about enforcers...

Who do you prefer:

Someone who stands up for his teammates and fights, but doesn't always win

OR

Someone who chirps at the opposing team and then skates away.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 10:59 AM

So tell me, since you seem to be the type who ******* incessantly about enforcers...

Who do you prefer:

Someone who stands up for his teammates and fights, but doesn't always win


OR

Someone who chirps at the opposing team and then skates away.

If this means Kopecky then I say take the person who runs his gate and skates away.

Seriously a guy his size, constantly falling all over the place like hes playing the game with a half case of beer in him, barely has a physical side, and wants a 1.2 million contract.

Isn't Eva the one on this forum who constantly is talking about Holland is smarter then all of us when he's talking about his little midget buddy Hudler coming back but now he's saying we shoulda kept Kopecky?


How many games did you watch last season Eva? Or did you recently hit your head really hard because Kopecky is TERRIBLE

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:12 AM

If this means Kopecky then I say take the person who runs his gate and skates away.

Seriously a guy his size, constantly falling all over the place like hes playing the game with a half case of beer in him, barely has a physical side, and wants a 1.2 million contract.

Isn't Eva the one on this forum who constantly is talking about Holland is smarter then all of us when he's talking about his little midget buddy Hudler coming back but now he's saying we shoulda kept Kopecky?


How many games did you watch last season Eva? Or did you recently hit your head really hard because Kopecky is TERRIBLE

Kopecky was and still is a waste of a roster spot.Doesn't deserve half of what he's making.Whoever even hints at saying Kopecky is anywhere near good should seriously get their head checked.
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:15 AM

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:41 AM

That stat about his post Olympic season is BS. What was he before the Olympics? I think he had like 4 points total, and that was after playing on the PP and with the likes of Hossa.

Taking stats away (look at his current linemates now, btw) take a look at his actual goals. Wide open nets, goalie down and out... and to be honest, he STILL almost misses them. He is still taken soo easily off of the puck and spends more time on his ass than he does skating.

He seems to be trying a hell of a lot harder in Chicago, so I guess its a better fit. I still see him as a pylon who has had inflated stats by playing with far superior players and on the PP.
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:44 AM

When was the last time Kopecky and Samuelsson scored in the same game?
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:45 AM


I really don't think Kopecky would just be ending the first year of a multi-million dollar contract if there were an average of 16+ players per NHL team who could replace him. Seems like a small exaggeration, don't you think?


Oh please, this is completely irrelevant. His contract came at a time under Chicago's absurdly mismanaged former management, where they signed half of the free agents in the entire hockey world to overpriced multi-million dollar contracts.
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:47 AM

Chicago gets Kopecky for $1.2 million = 21 points, 4 in the playoffs
Detroit gets Bertuzzi for $1.5 million = 44 points, 10 in the playoffs

Easy decision.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:49 AM

The OP suggested that we should feel regret for not re-signing Kopecky. We mentioned the fact that no such regret existed, given that Kopecky was terrible when he was here; nobody wanted him re-signed.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 01:01 PM

I don't understand how people are blaming him for getting his points with Hossa, isn't that what complimentary players are supposed to do? I mean very few players can carry a line, especially not depth players; he's doing what he's supposed to. I was a Kopecky fan when he was here, but his shtick did get tired, skate into there zone fall over and lose the puck. Act like you'll get involved and face off and then do nothing. I'm glad he found a roll he likes more but he is not worth the money and about the only players on the team I'd rather have Kopecky in for are Williams and Draper.
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 01:30 PM


I really don't think Kopecky would just be ending the first year of a multi-million dollar contract if there were an average of 16+ players per NHL team who could replace him. Seems like a small exaggeration, don't you think?

Perhaps 150-200 players could do his job just as well, but that is including maybe 50-75 top-six forwards. So we're left with anywhere from 75-150 players who are better than Kopecky at his job AND are on their team just to do that job. No, swapping out Kopecky with Draper probably wouldn't make much of a difference with the current team. But the fact remains that on most teams in the league, Kopecky would likely have a job in the bottom 6.


Maybe a bit of an exaggeration. Maybe it's only 300. Maybe 100. Or maybe it's 600. I wasn't saying there are 500 guys hands down better. He's one of a large group of players capable of playing bottom 6 forward in the NHL. He happens to have experience with a championship team, so that raises his stock a bit. But my point is, who cares? No one. Not one GM in the league will ever say to himself, "you know what this teams needs...Tomas Kopecky". He's filler. He's a guy that you get when you don't have a lot of money, and need someone to fill a spot who can at least play the game at an NHL level.

I'm not saying he's a terrible player. Hell, he's one of the 1000 best players in the world for sure. That's pretty damn impressive if you think of it that way. But the OP was suggesting (and I still don't know if it was supposed to be a joke or not) that we might miss having Kopy on this team, or even more ridiculous that we wish the Hawks didn't have him, as if he is what really makes Chicago good. It's absurd. Kopy just isn't the kind of player that anyone really cares about. Even you don't seem to care.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 01:31 PM

Who cares? He is gone. My question to you OP is would he have done the same here? I'd bet a weeks pay on NO.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 01:32 PM

If this means Kopecky then I say take the person who runs his gate and skates away.

Seriously a guy his size, constantly falling all over the place like hes playing the game with a half case of beer in him, barely has a physical side, and wants a 1.2 million contract.

Isn't Eva the one on this forum who constantly is talking about Holland is smarter then all of us when he's talking about his little midget buddy Hudler coming back but now he's saying we shoulda kept Kopecky?


How many games did you watch last season Eva? Or did you recently hit your head really hard because Kopecky is TERRIBLE

1) How can you blame a player for his salary? It is human nature to want more, and I sincerely doubt Kopecky held Chicago's GM at gunpoint and demanded 1.2 million. If you were in his position you would have went to.

2) Eva has not once said we should have kept Kopecky, but rather implied that if he had upped his level in the play in the past months, is performing better than he was here, and theoretically would be no downgrade over Draper should they have been replaced. But alas, this is LGW so what people type and what people read will always be completely different.

Chicago gets Kopecky for $1.2 million = 21 points, 4 in the playoffs
Detroit gets Bertuzzi for $1.5 million = 44 points, 10 in the playoffs

Easy decision.

But.... but... BERTUZZI WAS A MAIN CULPRIT IN THE FACT THAT STEVEN MOORE BROKE HIS NECK 6 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!! :D
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