Ozzy318 3 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 wow...that was the worst referring I have seen since we played the Pens for the Cup in '09 and in the Frozen Four this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 It's becoming harder and harder for people to think that there isn't something going on with horrible displays of officiating like today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 Bettman and his allegiance to the NBA model of altering the natural course of games and series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 I liked how the Yotes were freely allowed to enter the zone off-side in the last 5 minutes 2 or 3 times. Funny how the linesman can make the right call for 55 minutes but utterly blow it in the last 5. Weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 im just absolutely disgusted......I dont know what to say, something needs to be done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 Are the refs consistently inconsistent or inconsistently consistent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 Are the refs consistently inconsistent or inconsistently consistent? Whichever one means dumb and moronic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 there was an article in SI saying people give refs to hard of a time. thats BULLs*** this officiating is absolutely horrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 I find the only thing the refs are consistent with is calling penalties against teams that are ahead in the 3rd period. I'm wondering if they're told to keep games close and exciting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 And despite all this, the Detroit haters all around the League have the nerve to continue to cry that the officials love Detroit. 2 Nev and commadore183 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 NHL officiating overall: Epic fail. While sadly we've seen worse I think than this game, those "interference" calls on Flipper and Helm immediately off the face-off were absolutely pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 NHL officiating overall: Epic fail. While sadly we've seen worse I think than this game, those "interference" calls on Flipper and Helm immediately off the face-off were absolutely pathetic. NHLN just showed the "boarding" call on Helm...wow. I think the interference on Flip, like the Franzen cross-check and Bert slash, was iffy. Chincy stuff that didn't need to be called, but I don't have huge problem with the calls themselves. The boarding was ridiculous. No different than half the other hits in the game. Then the interference on Helm...was as much an arm drag by the Phoenix player. Calling it that way when the Wings were already short-handed just reeks of "we need to help even the score". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 NHLN just showed the "boarding" call on Helm...wow. I think the interference on Flip, like the Franzen cross-check and Bert slash, was iffy. Chincy stuff that didn't need to be called, but I don't have huge problem with the calls themselves. The boarding was ridiculous. No different than half the other hits in the game. Then the interference on Helm...was as much an arm drag by the Phoenix player. Calling it that way when the Wings were already short-handed just reeks of "we need to help even the score". I'll have to watch a replay later on what you are referring on Helm because my mind is drawing a blank on that one. As much as Shane Doan can be reckless and we hate him, when he hit Franzen that wasn't a penalty, unfortuantely Franzen was just in an awkward position, so I am assuming the Helm hit you speak of is much lighter than that. The Franzen cross checking is ticky-tacky, but if you keep doing something over and over again, the refs are going to eventually get it (like retalitory stuff). One of the penalties where Homer was cross checked 2 or 3 times, the first time they'll let go, the second time was more obvious. So I can (hestitantly) live with the refs there. The interference off the face offs just drive me nuts. Let them play for crying out loud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 Wings have apparently had a 5 on 3 against for seven straight playoff games now. Aren't they always amongst the least penalized team every year during the regular season? What's so different about the playoffs? Other than, you know, the whole NHL money making machine thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjgj13 30 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 And despite all this, the Detroit haters all around the League have the nerve to continue to cry that the officials love Detroit. This is SOOOO TRUE!! Check out the "ref you suck" fan page on FB! NHL officiating overall: Epic fail. While sadly we've seen worse I think than this game, those "interference" calls on Flipper and Helm immediately off the face-off were absolutely pathetic. Don't forget the boarding call on Helm when he hit Jovopussy. If that was boarding and 2 mins, then the hit on Mule should have been 5 and a game!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 Don't forget the boarding call on Helm when he hit Jovopussy. If that was boarding and 2 mins, then the hit on Mule should have been 5 and a game!! You might want to watch the replay again. Franzen already lost his balance. Doan barely touched him. I was watching the game with a few other hockey fans and even they were ok with the non call, and yes, they were Detroit fans as well. As for the other calls in the 3rd period, I am going to have a look at the game in its entirety today. I had to leave at the start of the 3rd period because of a hockey tournament I was playing in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 NHLN just showed the "boarding" call on Helm...wow. I think the interference on Flip, like the Franzen cross-check and Bert slash, was iffy. Chincy stuff that didn't need to be called, but I don't have huge problem with the calls themselves. The boarding was ridiculous. No different than half the other hits in the game. Then the interference on Helm...was as much an arm drag by the Phoenix player. Calling it that way when the Wings were already short-handed just reeks of "we need to help even the score". This is SOOOO TRUE!! Check out the "ref you suck" fan page on FB! Don't forget the boarding call on Helm when he hit Jovopussy. If that was boarding and 2 mins, then the hit on Mule should have been 5 and a game!! Just saw replays of this on NHL Network. Maybe I was drawing a blank on it because it barely looked noticable or out of the ordiary than any other hit we'd probably expect! Consistently inconsistent as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 Salary payment for the players finish at the end of the regular season. Is the same true for the officials? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grwingfan 21 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 With the retirement of the "old guys" officiating has gone down hill fast. These guys now are just brutal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 With the retirement of the "old guys" officiating has gone down hill fast. These guys now are just brutal. This. Bill McCreary is gonna be missed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 I wish I could read one GDT without hearing about referees. Teams think the game is rigged for us, we think its rigged against us. Phoenix ******* about the early penalties, we ***** about the late penalties. I mean, ya it can be frustratingly inconsistent at times, but if we were all neutral observers, I doubt we'd have trouble with every penalty that was called in game 2. The only one I have some trouble with is the Filppula interference call off the draw. And if they are trying to make games "close"...then why isn't it happening in every series. I've watched most of the playoff games, and it just isn't happening. Its always easy to make the "right" call after you've seen a slow motion replay 5 times. Why is it that the human population is sooo prone to believing in conspiracy theories? People make mistakes, sometimes egregious mistakes, trying to come up with outlandish theories to explain just seems like a lot work. Occam's razor etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryguy 103 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 What I hate and ive seen this is a couple series already. Is the tacky calls to go on the 5 on 3. You use to have to either high stick someone or hook them real good to get a 5 on 3, and well both Helm calls were really weak to me. I saw it coming when the wings go up 4 with 18 mins left in the 2nd you always know whats coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbochan 15 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 The Sabres/Flyers game was no better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 What I hate and ive seen this is a couple series already. Is the tacky calls to go on the 5 on 3. You use to have to either high stick someone or hook them real good to get a 5 on 3, and well both Helm calls were really weak to me. I saw it coming when the wings go up 4 with 18 mins left in the 2nd you always know whats coming. Ya but its happening in all the series against a wide variety of teams. There probably is a mandate to continue to call the game with the same scrutiny even when a team is down a player. This differs from years ago when the second penalty took a lot more to get called. So in reality, its a mandate for more consistency, which should please many folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tman77 40 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) You might want to watch the replay again. Franzen already lost his balance. Doan barely touched him. I was watching the game with a few other hockey fans and even they were ok with the non call, and yes, they were Detroit fans as well. As for the other calls in the 3rd period, I am going to have a look at the game in its entirety today. I had to leave at the start of the 3rd period because of a hockey tournament I was playing in. YOU may want to watch the replay again. I just saw it on the NHL replay of the game that`s going on now on NHL Network and if you watch closely, first Belanger`s stick hits Franzen in the face, then Doan pushes him into the boards face first for a 1-2 punch. Watch the change of direction of Franzen from being pushed by Doan. I`d be pissed too. Edited April 17, 2011 by Tman77 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
