Wings' first draft pick - 22nd overall

[zettie85 106]

It does matter. We need someone who can replace Lidstrom as a puck handeler in the defensive zone. If we can pick someone who can hit, skate well, and control the puck, that's who we need to pick up. McIlrath seems to be that guy then thats who we need to get.

Didn't quite catch the sarcasm did you?

[king_malice 17]

If they are going to do that the draft would have to had looked like the 2003 draft or something, this year is pretty weak compared to previous years...Only the top4-5 are real impact players that could step in more or less right away...

I havent seen all these guys play so im not sure but Bob McKenzie said that yes this years draft isnt as strong as years before it but he also said anywhere from 1-20 pick could win the Calder once getting to the NHL after that he said your looking at alot of role players, now im not sure because once again i havent seen alot of them play, but i just suggest moving cleay one because he is a older player and also because he is overpayed on this Wings team, so more just to make more cap space.

[Guest Lidstromboli]

but i just suggest moving cleay one because he is a older player and also because he is overpayed on this Wings team, so more just to make more cap space.

those things would probably lower his trade value quite a bit. he has a NTC or NMC too.

i don't think you would get a good return for him anyway. especially not a higher 1st round pick

[Finnish Wing 110]

As said earlier, they'll draft the best player available. There could be even some trade, but Kirill Kabanov at 22nd is a risk in my opinion. Medium or high risk with a high reward of course.

I'd love to get Granlund, but I'll doubt he drops that much. He could though, because of his size.

[king_malice 17]

His english is pretty good for a Russian usually they dont speak it so well,most of them anyway

[Winger19 4]

"Tyler Stahl - seems to be ranked somewhere in the second round. 15 fights most of which were caused by his bone crushing hits."

Having the opportunity to watch Tyler play all season, i can tell you this kid is a younger version of Kronwall. He lines up his hits, follows through, yes sometimes the elbow comes up a bit. He's not afraid of answering the bell either when challenged which he frequently had to do after laying out an a opponent. He's got a couple of his best hits on youtube if anyone is interested. He'd be a good second or third round pick. He does have a bit of a offensive upside.

[newfy 695]

I haven't seen it brought up (half asleep) but the Wings draft 21st.

Oh I was under the impression we picked 22nd. Thats good news, one less team to draft Mcilrath before we get to.

"Tyler Stahl - seems to be ranked somewhere in the second round. 15 fights most of which were caused by his bone crushing hits."

Having the opportunity to watch Tyler play all season, i can tell you this kid is a younger version of Kronwall. He lines up his hits, follows through, yes sometimes the elbow comes up a bit. He's not afraid of answering the bell either when challenged which he frequently had to do after laying out an a opponent. He's got a couple of his best hits on youtube if anyone is interested. He'd be a good second or third round pick. He does have a bit of a offensive upside.

I think if we pick up a scorer, this kid could be a good way to fill our need for a mean defenseman.

You said you've seen him play so is he just a big hitter that fights because he has to or is he sticking up for his goalie and clearing the crease alot as well? And when he does fight how does he do? Is he more of a middleweight guy?

[Winger19 4]

Oh I was under the impression we picked 22nd. Thats good news, one less team to draft Mcilrath before we get to.

I think if we pick up a scorer, this kid could be a good way to fill our need for a mean defenseman.

You said you've seen him play so is he just a big hitter that fights because he has to or is he sticking up for his goalie and clearing the crease alot as well? And when he does fight how does he do? Is he more of a middleweight guy?

He fights because he has to, he doesn't go out of his way to pick fights. Middleweight but has never had issues taking on bigger guys. He will stick up for his goaltender as well as he's quite good at clearing the crease.

[king_malice 17]

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Edited May 10, 2010 by king_malice

[king_malice 17]

Jeff Skinner some people had him on there Mock Drafts going in the top 10 but NHL central scouting list has him ranked #34 hes only 17 he is small at 5'10" 197LBS he might get a little bigger, but he is what the Wings need RW sniper he had 50G 40A in i think 62GP there was only one other 50 goal scorer in the OHL this year with 53 Bryan Cameron but hes already drafted.

[Shady Ultima 40]

A bit on Kabanov...he started the year in Moncton with the Wildcats, as i'm a wildcat fan, i have heard many stories about this kid. He missed about 45 games with a wrist injury, he came back expecting to be on the top line and first PP unit, when that didnt go his way, i was told that he said put me on the top line or im going back to russia, and a few players stood up and told him that they would help him pack, so he was not well like ethier ...but he is a serious talent watchen him on the ice when he did play reminded me of datsyuk , he has some sick puck handling skills, so it might be worth the risk

I'd rather not have another Leino around here. "Put me in, or else"

This McIlrath kid does sound pretty kick ass, we'll see how it comes out though.

[newfy 695]

He fights because he has to, he doesn't go out of his way to pick fights. Middleweight but has never had issues taking on bigger guys. He will stick up for his goaltender as well as he's quite good at clearing the crease.

He could be a decent pick at 53 or so by the sounds of it. If we pick Mcilrath however it just won't happen. Either way I hope we get one of these two since they seem to be a couple of the toughest but still skilled guys in this draft.

Any body know any forwards that play with an edge that might go around 21 or 53?

[titanium2 867]

Another mock draft written way earlier in the year has Jeff Skinner as the 22nd pick.

One of the top scorers in the OHL, herearns raves as much for his consistently high energy level as his elite one-on-one skills. His size might scare off some teams, but given the success of other smaller players, it wouldn't be a surprise to see him go much earlier. Scout's Take: "He's like a wind-up toy. Turn his crank, send him over the boards and watch him go." Second Take: "He's an exciting player to watch. You'll be looking at another guy and he finds a way to grab your attention."

[king_malice 17]

I dont think size matters in the NHL anymore if your a skilled player it doesnt thats for sure, ya it would be nice to have a big hard hitting 3rd/4th liner, but when you are a scorer size doesnt matter anymore.

plus he is only 17 he could still grow a little more and could defintly beef up another 10Lbs, when i was 17 i was 5'11 like 185lbs the next summer i was 6'2 200, so you never know i think what the hell if he is still around take him.

[redwingfan19 293]

Well Im officially on the Mcilrath bandwagon. Maybe this guy could be the next Jiri Fischer, except nastier by the sounds of it

[king_malice 17]

I think the Wings need to get some goal scorers into the system with this draft, we have alot of young D prospects already and a bunch of role players and grinders but i couple more snipers would be nice to have developing also

[ben_usmc 253]

I'm all for either skinner or Mcilrath. I just wish we could get a player that can make an immediate impact

[Jesusberg 1,256]

I would definitely go for McIlrath, he's exactly what Detroit needs. That, or as others have said, Skinner would be decent too.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Kabanov seems to have dropped out of the top 30, maybe the Wings could pick him up in the 2nd round

he has some great upside, just needs a guiding steady hand. Maybe Pasha could do the job.

[newfy 695]

Kabanov seems to have dropped out of the top 30, maybe the Wings could pick him up in the 2nd round

he has some great upside, just needs a guiding steady hand. Maybe Pasha could do the job.

Kabanov I wouldn't mind in the second but definitely not the first. He is not worth the risk for sure.

Austin Watson might fall too us, which would be sick. Same with Macfarland. Both big hitting, scoring power forwards with a bit of bite to their game. Between Mcilrath and these two I'm hoping we can get one of them.

Edited May 15, 2010 by newfy

[Andy Pred 48 337]

I did a topic about Watson and another Michigan lad, Jared Knight when they were rookies in the OHL. Knight is smaller than Watson but he has improved greatly and had a good playoff campaign with the London Knights. Im all for getting local guys in the Wings org, maybe Kenny could trade up the pick and get Fowler!!

[p_diddy_datsyuk_13 2]

Obviously in the cap world draft picks and great scouting are more important than ever before. Last year Holland traded down which I think was a brilliant move as our scouts do an amazing job drafting late and picked up an extremely underrated kid named Andrej Nestrasil - big new-age powerforward.

One kid that dropped in the 2010 draft is Kirill Kabanov. The reason, from what I understand, is he's a flight risk and has a bad attitude. How true this is, I don't know. But some suggest that he could dart off to the KHL if he flakes out.... which is why he likely won't get picked early in the first round. That said, the kid has top 5 talent, has puck skills that would make Datsuyk and Larionov say "wow!" (watch videos on youtube and see for yourself, the kid is insane).

Is he worth the 22nd pick for Detroit or should Holland trade down again? Wings desperately need to get some top 6 players in the system. What would you like to see Holland do with the 22nd pick?

I don't know about this. while he has skills, I think it is too much of a risk for us in the first round. You hit the nail on the head though, we need some good top 6 offensive prospects. Most of what we have in the system appears to be third and fourth line talent, except for Tatar and maybe Mursak, depending on how Jan plays this upcoming year, the kid showed he can score and he has some incredible hands and good speed... The Wings have a lot of mid-level talent, but no talent that really wows anybody right now.

Even with the 22nd pick, the Wings can get a very good prospect. Now, I am not saying I like Corey Perry, but he was picked somewhere around 28th overall, as one of the league leaders in the OHL, before his London Knights were a very dominant team.

So there are always a few high level prospects left, and with our system seeming rather depleted right now, it is time we look for some offensive firepower and not trade down.

Edited May 15, 2010 by p_diddy_datsyuk_13

[Lidstrom for life 20]

I did a topic about Watson and another Michigan lad, Jared Knight when they were rookies in the OHL. Knight is smaller than Watson but he has improved greatly and had a good playoff campaign with the London Knights. Im all for getting local guys in the Wings org, maybe Kenny could trade up the pick and get Fowler!!

John Merrill please. A good Michigan lad, going to play for Red at UofM. Big defenseman who has great positioning but also can quarterback the powerplay (so I read) probably won't be around at #22 though unfortunately if he by some miracle is I would be so stoked if we got him.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I don't know about this. while he has skills, I think it is too much of a risk for us in the first round. You hit the nail on the head though, we need some good top 6 offensive prospects. Most of what we have in the system appears to be third and fourth line talent, except for Tatar and maybe Mursak, depending on how Jan plays this upcoming year, the kid showed he can score and he has some incredible hands and good speed... The Wings have a lot of mid-level talent, but no talent that really wows anybody right now.

Top Six Prospects in the Wings System:

1st Line:

Tatar

Nyquist (deserved the Hobbey Baker but got screwed because they don`t like giving it to 2nd year players)

Axelsson (has incredible talent but his lack of maturity and commitment will likely sink him)

2nd Line:

Mursak (could jump to top line)

Coetzee (could jump up)

Ferraro (could jump up if we`re lucky)

Nestrasil (may end up a bust or 3rd liner)

Emmerton (will likely be a bust as he didn`t make progress in the AHL this year and can`t seem to live up to his OHL numbers)

[cmonster 11]

Mcilrath, that name alone sounds like a big, mean, tough guy. If he can be as mean or meaner than Derian Hatcher and more mobile...sign me up.