king_malice 17 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 I dont mind not having a fighter on this team at all to be honest, we have the potential on this roster to not need and go out and get another gritty guy. If guys like Eaves,Helm,Draper,Cleary would go out there and do what they are supposed to do we are not in this situation. Lets be honest here Cleary,Eaves,Draper,Helm are not on this team to score us 50 goals, they are here to punish other players every shift by grinding them down and hitting, but it seems Abby is the only guy we can reply on to do this every shift. i think the last thing we need is another gritty 4th liner but we could use another big 3rd line power forward. I actually like Thornton over Asham only because he seems to scrap a little more and finishes alot more checks and could probably get him a little cheaper to. Franzen-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Hudler Cleary-Filppula-Helm Eaves-Abdlerkader-Thornton(but i would love to see Ritola in this spot) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 I'd like to see Holland not spend all the cap money and wait for trade deadline or waived players. There you go. That's exactly how I feel. The last two years the wings haven't been able to do anything at the deadline due to being up against the cap. 1 stevieisthebest reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 Its not because we dont have the money well that is part of it the other part is the god damn NTC on this team like Cleary i would love to move him and his contract but he has a NTC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 I'd take any of those players. Asham would top that list for me, and then we should also add a legitimate heavy on top of that. That would make us a tougher team to play against. Top 6 will probably stay unchanged, since there isn't much out there that we can pursue, thus the bottom 6 forwards are all Holland can look for. Asham and a heavyweight would be amazing.Here's my list of players i'd be happy with: Shawn Thornton Krys Barch Arron Asham Adam Mair Brandon Prust Eric Boulton Raffi Torres Steve Begin Zenon Konopka Andrew Peters Brian McGrattan Jody Shelley Scott Nichol Brian Sutherby Kyle Chipchura Ryan Johnson Derek Boogaard Brad Winchester Colin Fraser Darcy Hordichuk Cam Janssen Jared Boll Ben Eager David Koci Nate Thompson Tim Jackman Aaron Voros Brian Boyle Adam Burish Byron Bitz Josh Gratton Jamal Mayers David Clarkson Jason Chimera Although goons like McGrattan,Janssen,and Koci are unlikely to be signed,theyre worth mentioning.There's plenty of muscle available this offseason. 1 ManLuv4Clears reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 McGrattan is a buddy of mine i know he would love to play for a team with history like the Wings,I was also thinking Raffi Torres but Holland says cheap and Torres is defintly worth his money but i dont know how much Holland wants to spend but i would love him in the line-up he does it all. 1 ManLuv4Clears reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 Jaromir Jagr would make a great 4th liner. There ya go Ritola~Jagr~Hudler ahahaha...sweet 1 titanium2 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 I doubt the Devils would let Clarkson go. He's a guy that can fight and score occasionally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 I really see no reason for this move in the off-season. This team can do just fine in the regular season, so I say he sticks with what we have (unless he can find an impact forward) and wait until the trade deadline to see what the teams' situation is then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted May 12, 2010 Same story every year... BTW I hope he goes after Thornton... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMatt89 63 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 I hope Abdelkader turns into the McCarty-Maltby fusion they seem to be molding him into. Get a gritty guy along side him and we got a pretty dangerous 4th line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 119 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Cam Janssen was the 1st name I thought of. I think he would be a good fit here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 last thing we need is any more players over the age of like 28 we gotta think future 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 I would love Brandon Prust. He can't handle a puck to save his life but he can skate really well and cause some mayhem on the forecheck. Not a bad fighter either, good energy player. 4 wingsownnhl43, ManLuv4Clears, Doggy and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DatsyukianDeke13 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Mike Grier -------Thread--------- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwing19 11 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 colby armstrong would be insane on the third line IMO. ...armstrong-helm-cleary....one can dream right? ..but how much will this guy want anyone guess or? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Question for all those out there aware of who is and who isn't a free agent. I was just thinking that maybe the Wings can package two players (Miller and Ritola) for example and package them into a sign and trade. For example, this deal will never ever happen for so many reasons but what possible deals are out there along the lines of say, Miller and Ritola for Troy Brouwer? Again, I'm perfectly aware that deal will never happen, but is something like it possible with the crop of free agents in 2010 or 2011? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Miller was instrumental in the resurrection of the PK and Eaves was very important too. However, neither performed particularly well in the playoffs (although Eaves was injured), so that throws a wrench in the works. I really doubt we'd get someone better than Miller or Eaves for the money. Both have upside and age on their side. Both are RFA's as well so they're likely to be re-signed. The Wings really like Ritola's upside, well-rounded game, hockey IQ, and hands. Ritola should get real ice time next season and will have to play his way off the 4th line (which certainly isn't impossible). 1 redwingsgirlie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Here's what's going to happen, in order: #1) Holland's going to make "qualifying offers" to all of his restricted free agents: Helm, Abdelkader, Eaves, Miller, Ritola, and Meech. #2) Holland's going to resign these unrestricted free agents: Lidstrom, Holmstrom, and Bertuzzi. #3) Holland's going to sign a 4th line grinder. #4) Holland's going to resign Lilja if there's enough cap space left...if not...he'll sign someone similar. #5) Holland's going to trade either Miller or Ritola to get to the 24 man limit. Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi Hudler-Helm-Cleary F.A.(?)-Abdelkader-Eaves Miller Ritola Draper Lidstrom-Kronwall Stuart-Rafalski Kindl-Ericsson Lilja Meech Howard Osgood 24 huh? I was unaware the league raised the limit from 23... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 I said we need an enforcer on the 4th line. Everything else will be ok. Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Hudler-Franzen-Filppula Cleary-Abdelkader-Eaves/UFA Draper-Helm-Eaves/UFA + Miller, Ritola 1 redwing_78 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 I said we need an enforcer on the 4th line. Everything else will be ok. Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Hudler-Franzen-Filppula Cleary-Abdelkader-Eaves/UFA Draper-Helm-Eaves/UFA + Miller, Ritola An enforcer would be nice, but I'd be happy with a forth line that can play big minutes in the other teams end and wear down their defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) An enforcer would be nice, but I'd be happy with a forth line that can play big minutes in the other teams end and wear down their defense. I would like to see us make a run at Evgeny Artyukhin... I wonder if he could be had for a 1mil or less... he made 950k last year... I think he'd be a great addition... EDIT - I see us tendering offers to all of our RFA's and then trading away at least a couple of them, or not signing them, because if we even sign ONE FA in this off season that's not already on our roster, we are out of roster spots... someone has to be odd man out, I wonder if Ritola will be a Red Wing next year and if his one game in the playoffs/end of the year stint raised his trade value... I can't see him cracking the roster next year... Edited May 14, 2010 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 Yay, another May, Norton, Big Snake... Not what we need. 3 dobbles, Uncle Danny and titanium2 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 Yay, another May, Norton, Big Snake... Not what we need. Better than those soft euros, right? 1 wings1110 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 Just out of curiosity, anyone know if Max Lapierre is a free agent? I love that guy. He can score and he's a great agitator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 Just out of curiosity, anyone know if Max Lapierre is a free agent? I love that guy. He can score and he's a great agitator. Monteal had guys like Moen and Laraque to protect him from getting murdered. Aside from Lilja who doesn't fight anymore, who do we have that could protect Lapierre the first time he runs someone face first into the boards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
