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[Drake_Marcus]

As named here on the iihf website (pdf link): http://stats.iihf.co...000_85I_1_0.pdf

Congrats Pavel.

[SweWings]

Definitely the best Russian forward. The only one who was actually consistently good.

[Jasper84]

Pavs

[germanwing]

Already mentioned here:
http://www.letsgowin...pic=65265&st=60

But it´s great for Pavel!!!

Playing with Malkin and Kovalchuk in a line, but scoring 6 goals! That´s amazing!

[Drake_Marcus]

Already mentioned here:
http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=65265&st=60

But it´s great for Pavel!!!

Playing with Malkin and Kovalchuk in a line, but scoring 6 goals! That´s amazing!

Datsyuk had so many great set-ups today... if the rest of the Russian forwards could convert on those passes the game would've turned out much better.

[titanium2]

Is he the best Russian forward in the NHL right now?

[GMRwings1983]

Is he the best Russian forward in the NHL right now?

No.

[TheOwl]

He's the most complete Russian forward. Whether that means "best" is up for debate. Datsyuk, Ovechkin, Malkin and Kovelchuk have all had terrible seasons though. At least Datsyuk can finish with a bit of a high note.

[GMRwings1983]

He's the most complete Russian forward. Whether that means "best" is up for debate. Datsyuk, Ovechkin, Malkin and Kovelchuk have all had terrible seasons though. At least Datsyuk can finish with a bit of a high note.

Datsyuk is the most complete, but Ovechkin is a scoring machine and is one of the 2 best players in hockey. Kind of hard to say that he's not the best Russian player in the league.

Not his fault he didn't play with the 2002 Wings or with Lidstrom and Zetterberg in the playoffs. He has a lot more pressure on him than what Datsyuk has ever had in Detroit. Other Caps players just let him down in the postseason these last few years.

[Drake_Marcus]

Datsyuk is the most complete, but Ovechkin is a scoring machine and is one of the 2 best players in hockey. Kind of hard to say that he's not the best Russian player in the league.

Not his fault he didn't play with the 2002 Wings or with Lidstrom and Zetterberg in the playoffs. He has a lot more pressure on him than what Datsyuk has ever had in Detroit. Other Caps players just let him down in the postseason these last few years.

Don't you wonder what kind of numbers Datsyuk would put up on Washington, though? If he was encouraged to focus 100% on offense? I know balanced play is Datsyuk's game, so I'm not suggesting that it'd be a switch he'd flip in his head, but still, he uses a great deal of energy on defense and he's very unlikely to take defensive risks in the name of offense. It'd be interesting to see what kind of numbers Datsyuk could put up in the East playing the kind of game all the scoring champs play.

[SweWings]

Don't you wonder what kind of numbers Datsyuk would put up on Washington, though? If he was encouraged to focus 100% on offense? I know balanced play is Datsyuk's game, so I'm not suggesting that it'd be a switch he'd flip in his head, but still, he uses a great deal of energy on defense and he's very unlikely to take defensive risks in the name of offense. It'd be interesting to see what kind of numbers Datsyuk could put up in the East playing the kind of game all the scoring champs play.

The World Championships aren't a fair representation for the NHL but it does somewhat show that when he's given the opportunity and role of a pure scorer (pretty certain he played almost no PK and was on the PP all the time) he does know how to light the lamp. (1 GPG and a 50% SG). Not likely that he'd match Ovechkin's goalscoring but looking at the numbers Bäckström puts up and extrapolating from those seems reasonable.

[Lidstromboli]

then there's the whole weak competition thing..

[Yak19]

[Drake_Marcus]

then there's the whole weak competition thing..

Which is why I specifically mentioned the East.

[MulesWillFly93]

Поздравляю, Павел!

That's supposed to say, "Congratulations, Pavel!" but I suck at Russian.

[ami]

Datsyuk is the most complete, but Ovechkin is a scoring machine and is one of the 2 best players in hockey. Kind of hard to say that he's not the best Russian player in the league.

This frigging 'scoring machine' starts to piss off everybody but Caps fans... 99% of time he acts like a stapler and as predictable as a stapler: wait for a pass and shoot, wait for a pass and shoot, wait for pass and shoot. Machine he is. Oh yeah, sometime stapler can be used for something else, and then he (a scoring machine) can make some moves and even passes. Very rarely though.

Поздравляю, Павел!

That's supposed to say, "Congratulations, Pavel!" but I suck at Russian.

You said (and spelled) it perfectly.

[sharomyga]

Definitely the best Russian forward. The only one who was actually consistently good.

agreed, super responsible in the own zone and very thoughtful play in offense, amazing performance by Pavel, 100% deserved

Поздравляю, Павел!

That's supposed to say, "Congratulations, Pavel!" but I suck at Russian.

100% accurate

This frigging 'scoring machine' starts to piss off everybody but Caps fans... 99% of time he acts like a stapler and as predictable as a stapler: wait for a pass and shoot, wait for a pass and shoot, wait for pass and shoot. Machine he is. Oh yeah, sometime stapler can be used for something else, and then he (a scoring machine) can make some moves and even passes. Very rarely though.


You said (and spelled) it perfectly.

Edited by sharomyga, 24 May 2010 - 12:57 AM.

[titanium2]

That's realy good! I like.

[dat's sick]

Is he the best Russian forward in the NHL right now?

It almost seems like a joke to say he isn't after seeing how Ovechkin, Malkin and Kovalchuk have played in the Olympics, NHL playoffs and the WHC compared to Pavel.
But to some people regular season goals will always be the most important thing when you talk about who the best player is.

[Kira]

Say what you want, but I think he was the best. I read somewhere that they thought Malkin was the best, but I beg to differ. It's Pasha hands down.