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[mindfly]

Within seven days*

Am I the only one having problem sleeping?

According to ESPN's Pierre LeBrun, per the CBC's Satellite Hotstove, Red Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom will determine his hockey future in the next seven days, and then the Wings will sign him for a slight haircut over his $7.45 million salary, and the Wings have already started contract negotiations with Tomas Holmstrom and Todd Bertuzzi;

According to Glenn Healy, the NHLPA will also help lead the PA going forward, though he may not become their next executive director, and the PA does hope to find an executive director in short order.

Update 11:59 PM: Here's the clip...check the 5:41 mark:

Update #2, Sunday, 5:54 AM: LeBrun offers substantiation in text via his blog:

ESPN: Nicklas Lidstrom will deliver his decision on his playing future to Detroit GM Ken Holland in the upcoming week. The Red Wings have their fingers crossed that he'll return, but the reality is, no one has a clue what he's going to decide. If he decides to return for another season, the next step will be to sign a contract since he's set to become an unrestricted free agent July 1. He earned $7.4 million this season, and despite the fact he remains a great defenseman at age 40, the Wings will hope to get him back for less money.

Aside from Lidstrom, the Wings are also talking to both camps for Tomas Holmstrom and Todd Bertuzzi and want to try to bring them both back. They're both UFAs, as well.

Originally from:
http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2010/05/cbcs_hotstove_nicklas_lidstrom.html

Edited by mindfly, 30 May 2010 - 03:01 PM.

[rage]

He's supposed to sign for more money? Isn't that what the first link says?

I doubt it.

[Broken 16]

He's supposed to sign for more money? Isn't that what the first link says?

I doubt it.

I took 'a slight haircut' as to mean slightly less. Which would be equally lame.

[LeftWinger]

if it's more than $4.5 million this team is fudged. If I know how Holland works (and we've already established that ) He will give Lidstrom $7M, both Bertuzzi and Holmstrom $3M erasing our entire cap space...

Lids $4.5

Bertuzzi & Holmstrom $1.5 each...

Nothing more, this team needs to get better via Free Agency, NOT waste all the cap space on the same team that sucked last season. Oh wait, we got Hudler back What a waste of $2.8M that is! Little focker couldn't even make his National team for his homeland in the Olympics, WTF is he gonna do here? NOTHING! TRADE HIM!

[Trapt1307]

Seriously, I don't understand Lidstrom's motivation. The guy has nothing more to prove, so why not take a paycut so the team has some cap space and a legit change at another cup run? Bringing back the same team as last year, minus Bertuzzi and plus Hudler isn't going to get the job done.

[Broken 16]

Seriously, I don't understand Lidstrom's motivation. The guy has nothing more to prove, so why not take a paycut so the team has some cap space and a legit change at another cup run? Bringing back the same team as last year, minus Bertuzzi and plus Hudler isn't going to get the job done.

Maybe he just wants to make sure his grandkids' grandkids' grandkids are set for life?

Edited by Broken 16, 30 May 2010 - 04:30 PM.

[Reds4Life]

Seriously, I don't understand Lidstrom's motivation.

Probably because you are not a pro-athlete

[Z and D for the C]

Maybe he just wants to make sure his grandkids' grandkids' grandkids are set for life?

You mean his his grandkids' grandkids' grandkids' grandkids' grandkids' grandkids' grandkids' grandkids' grandkids?


I agree with left winger, this team needs some change, not go back with the same team that just got beaten down by a team that got swept. Now I don't think Hudler is a waste and he is damn sure worth his 2.85m salary, but we need someone else for the top 6.

[mindfly]

if it's more than $4.5 million this team is fudged. If I know how Holland works (and we've already established that ) He will give Lidstrom $7M, both Bertuzzi and Holmstrom $3M erasing our entire cap space...

Lids $4.5

Bertuzzi & Holmstrom $1.5 each...

Nothing more, this team needs to get better via Free Agency, NOT waste all the cap space on the same team that sucked last season. Oh wait, we got Hudler back What a waste of $2.8M that is! Little focker couldn't even make his National team for his homeland in the Olympics, WTF is he gonna do here? NOTHING! TRADE HIM!

^This

My thoughts exactly

[Wings_Dynasty]

Lidstrom will not make less than 7 million dollars. He will not be paid less than any player on the team. That is how Holland rolls.

[Puckpossession]

Pay lidstrom what he deserves 7 mil plus

[Broken 16]

Lidstrom will not make less than 7 million dollars. He will not be paid less than any player on the team. That is how Holland rolls.

So if Lidstrom offers to play for less, Holland will refuse? What a stupid thing to insinuate.

[haroldsnepsts]

if it's more than $4.5 million this team is fudged. If I know how Holland works (and we've already established that ) He will give Lidstrom $7M, both Bertuzzi and Holmstrom $3M erasing our entire cap space...

Lids $4.5

Bertuzzi & Holmstrom $1.5 each...

Nothing more, this team needs to get better via Free Agency, NOT waste all the cap space on the same team that sucked last season. Oh wait, we got Hudler back What a waste of $2.8M that is! Little focker couldn't even make his National team for his homeland in the Olympics, WTF is he gonna do here? NOTHING! TRADE HIM!

Lidstrom is still easily a top 5 defenseman in the league, and you expect him to take a $3 million paycut?

You guys kill me sometimes. For the good of the team he should play another grueling season for millions less than his market value?

If he signs for anything under 6 mill, he would officially be Saint Nick in Detroit.

Edited by haroldsnepsts, 30 May 2010 - 05:55 PM.

[mindfly]

At the time he signed the contract that expired just now his market value was 8.5 or something so 7.45 was 1 million hometown discount (he was a norris winning 65-80pts D).. his value now..49pts last season no norris nomination decent +/-... around 6million?.. so 1million hometown discount...=5Million.. done deal! kthxbye

Edited by mindfly, 30 May 2010 - 06:01 PM.

[Zetts]

Lidstrom is still easily a top 5 defenseman in the league, and you expect him to take a $3 million paycut?

You guys kill me sometimes. For the good of the team he should play another grueling season for millions less than his market value?

If he signs for anything under 6 mill, he would officially be Saint Nick in Detroit.

Exactly. People here are somewhat over-optimistic about this. There's never been anything suggesting he'd take anything more than a slight pay cut. It's insulting to him to expect him to take a cut of the proportions some people are suggesting.

My personal thoughts and impression from what I've heard is that we're looking at a number just a slight bit under 7 million. That's a guess, but I'd say it's a more reasonable one than something like 4 or 5 million. And let's be honest - most teams would easily give him 9 million without blinking (assuming they had the cap space). His salary last year was already a hometown discount.

[Puckpossession]

At the time he signed the contract that expired just now his market value was 8.5 or something so 7.45 was 1 million hometown discount (he was a norris winning 65-80pts D).. his value now..49pts last season no norris nomination decent +/-... around 6million?.. so 1million hometown discount...=5Million.. done deal! kthxbye

you know thats not fair, we all know lids means to much to this team, hes our mvp, and once he leaves things will be sour.

Also you have to be one generous man to do that, but im starting to agree with others, why not just take that 1 year with a huge paycut to win?

Edited by Puckpossession, 30 May 2010 - 06:03 PM.

[Zetts]

At the time he signed the contract that expired just now his market value was 8.5 or something so 7.45 was 1 million hometown discount (he was a norris winning 65-80pts D).. his value now..49pts last season no norris nomination decent +/-... around 6million?.. so 1million hometown discount...=5Million.. done deal! kthxbye

I still feel he's a top 10 player in the game. That puts his market value much over 6 million. While my personal feelings of a 9 million value on the open market might be a little high, I'd say that 6 is insultingly low.

[Broken 16]

Lidstrom is still easily a top 5 defenseman in the league, and you expect him to take a $3 million paycut?

You guys kill me sometimes. For the good of the team he should play another grueling season for millions less than his market value?

If he signs for anything under 6 mill, he would officially be Saint Nick in Detroit.

I'd rather he just retire unless he signs for 5 mil. Seriously. The guy is great but I really don't want to watch another year with the same team+Hudler-Williams... with Lidstrom a year older. He's looking human now, what's he gonna look like by the end of next season?

I'll be pissed if he makes 6+. And I will lose a little respect for him.

[Zetts]

I'd rather he just retire unless he signs for 5 mil. Seriously. The guy is great but I really don't want to watch another year with the same team+Hudler-Williams... with Lidstrom a year older. He's looking human now, what's he gonna look like by the end of next season?

I'll be pissed if he makes 6+. And I will lose a little respect for him.

While I agree that I want a bit more change than Hudler for Williams, getting rid of Lidstrom is not the answer.

Say he asks for 7 million, which you would not want. What possible additions could we make that would actually be an upgrade for that money? If Lidstrom's gone, while that might mean change, it would be a change for the worse.

[GMRwings1983]

My gut tells me that he'll retire.

If he was coming back, he'd probably have decided it already unequivocally. I've never wanted to be more wrong about anything as much as this, but I just don't feel good about this.