Rule/Game changes for next season...

[king_malice 17]

I just heard Gm's were complaining about to many Shootouts so the league told them to come up with a few ideas.......and guess who had the best ?...thats right Kenny boy, he said that teams are fine with sitting back and going to shootout instead of playing for the win in OT so his idea was.

go from 5min OT to either 8 or 10 min OT

if 8 play 4min of it 4-4 and the last 4min 3-3

and

if 10 play 5min of it 4-4 and the last 5min 3-3

i personally like this idea, or even just right to 3-3 OT instead of the 4-4

[Guest Lidstromboli]

source?

it should either be 5-5 or 4-4 the entire time.

Edited June 2, 2010 by Lidstromboli

[Jaymz99 2]

It probably doesn't hurt that we tend to do poorly in shootouts. I can't be the only one thinking this as this news breaks.

For the record, I personally hate shootouts. I think it is the dumbest thing they have added next to the trapezoid rule. However, players including goalies seem to enjoy the shootout as a "time to shine".

source?

it should either be 5-5 or 4-4 the entire time.

NHL.com

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=530752

Half way down

Holland on OT -- NHL general managers are meeting in Philadelphia Wednesday to go over a number of subjects. Detroit Red Wings GM Ken Holland told the Detroit Free Press he wants to see a change in the NHL's overtime format.

"I'd like to see more games decided in overtime than shootout,” Holland said Tuesday. "I don't mind the shootout, I just don't want the shootout to decide so many games.

"My suggestion is, extend OT from five minutes to eight minutes or from five minutes to 10 minutes," Holland said. "Then maybe do we go half of it four-on-four, half of it three-on-three?

"I just want to have a conversation to see if other people feel like I do.

Edited June 2, 2010 by Jaymz99

[king_malice 17]

Darren Dreger

[HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878]

I like playoff style, keep the OT's coming.

[stevkrause 1,247]

I'm all for it and thinks the SO needs to stay, but as I've said all along, they need to adjust point totals to truly emphasize the team victory and make the SO a last call, not an easy way to sit back and try for the 2nd point:

10 min OT, then SO

Win in Reg or OT - 3pts

Win in SO - 2pts

Loss in SO - 1pt

Loss in Reg or OT - 0pts

Sit back and wait for SO and you automatically sacrifice at least one point - All games worth the same point total. done and done.

[Echolalia 2,961]

I don't know how I feel about switching from 4-on-4 to 3-on-3 halfway through the OT. Would the clock just die right at the halfway point, killing a possible scoring play from occurring? I would be more on board with this idea if they waited for the first whistle after the halfway point of OT to go to 3v3. That way no momentum or goal scoring opportunities are lost.

I also like the idea of an 8 or 10 minute OT, although I don't know how overlord NBC will react to that, because it increases the time that hockey will cut into some other program. Also, what effect will this have on longterm health? With parity stronger than ever, its almost guaranteed that more OTs are coming than ever before. Will a plethora of OTs during the regular season be enough to wear down the players and increase injury rates?

Edit: I like stevekrause's point idea, except minus one point from every column. So 2 points for a win, regulation or OT, 1 point for a win in the shootout, and 0 points for a loss regardless of how it happens.

Edited June 3, 2010 by Echolalia

[stevkrause 1,247]

I like playoff style, keep the OT's coming.

In theory, it's great fun, but its not feasible, or logical... these guys already kill themselves over the span of a LONG season and already have a travel itinerary that is thrown off by even going to one abbreviated OT... to ask them to extend it further is ludicrous and completely illogical

I don't know how I feel about switching from 4-on-4 to 3-on-3 halfway through the OT. Would the clock just die right at the halfway point, killing a possible scoring play from occurring? I would be more on board with this idea if they waited for the first whistle after the halfway point of OT to go to 3v3. That way no momentum or goal scoring opportunities are lost.

I also like the idea of an 8 or 10 minute OT, although I don't know how overlord NBC will react to that, because it increases the time that hockey will cut into some other program. Also, what effect will this have on longterm health? With parity stronger than ever, its almost guaranteed that more OTs are coming than ever before. Will a plethora of OTs during the regular season be enough to wear down the players and increase injury rates?

Edit: I like stevekrause's point idea, except minus one point from every column. So 2 points for a win, regulation or OT, 1 point for a win in the shootout, and 0 points for a loss regardless of how it happens.

I'd like that point system over the current one, but I still think it punishes a team who played at least an equal TEAM game and once again, you have uneven point totals, some games will award a grand total of 2 points, whereas others award 1... I think every game should be worth the same total, that's why I'm such a huge proponent of the 3pt system

[Dano33 41]

I'm all for it and thinks the SO needs to stay, but as I've said all along, they need to adjust point totals to truly emphasize the team victory and make the SO a last call, not an easy way to sit back and try for the 2nd point:

10 min OT, then SO

Win in Reg or OT - 3pts

Win in SO - 2pts

Loss in SO - 1pt

Loss in Reg or OT - 0pts

Sit back and wait for SO and you automatically sacrifice at least one point - All games worth the same point total. done and done.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree 100% with everything here.

[Original-Six 254]

How about 5 mins OT then if its still tied have a goalie fight to determine the winner.

Edited June 3, 2010 by Original-Six

[LeftWinger 4,959]

I say get rid of the Shootout AND the 1 point for losing! It really inflated the point totals this season and takes away from the "team" sport that this game is supposed to be. You want more one on the goalie, call more penalty shots...

Edited June 3, 2010 by LeftWinger

[toby91_ca 620]

I just heard Gm's were complaining about to many Shootouts so the league told them to come up with a few ideas.......and guess who had the best ?...thats right Kenny boy, he said that teams are fine with sitting back and going to shootout instead of playing for the win in OT so his idea was.

go from 5min OT to either 8 or 10 min OT

if 8 play 4min of it 4-4 and the last 4min 3-3

and

if 10 play 5min of it 4-4 and the last 5min 3-3

i personally like this idea, or even just right to 3-3 OT instead of the 4-4

How is it that you conclude Kenny had the best ideas?

I'm all for going to 10 minute OTs and eliminate the shootou all together, end in a tie if you have to. I'd keep it 4 on 4 for the entire 10 though, I don't want 3 on 3.

[MulesWillFly93 199]

I'm all for it and thinks the SO needs to stay, but as I've said all along, they need to adjust point totals to truly emphasize the team victory and make the SO a last call, not an easy way to sit back and try for the 2nd point:

10 min OT, then SO

Win in Reg or OT - 3pts

Win in SO - 2pts

Loss in SO - 1pt

Loss in Reg or OT - 0pts

Sit back and wait for SO and you automatically sacrifice at least one point - All games worth the same point total. done and done.

Exactly what I was going to say (I mean, except for the points breakdown...I hadn't got that far yet). I kind of like SOs every great once in a while...it's fun to see guys like Datsyuk go out there and try to pull a fast one on the goalie, and you get to see what's going on in the goalie's mind, but I think they should happen a lot less often, and I think a 10-min. OT is the perfect solution. I'd definitely keep it 4-on-4 the entire time, though.

I kinda like Original-Six's idea, though...we know Jimmah can get all crazy-ass mofo on a *****; I think he could win us some games! Crosby isn't much practice for him, though...maybe we can get Hextall in to coach him during the off-season, heh.

[Guest Lidstromboli]

win - 2 points

lose in regular or ot - 0 points

[soultrain 43]

win - 2 points

lose in regular or ot - 0 points

and no shootout?...or 1 point in shootout loss?

[Guest Lidstromboli]

... no points for losing at all

[eva unit zero 271]

Win in Reg or OT - 3pts

Win in SO - 2pts

Loss in SO - 1pt

Loss in Reg or OT - 0pts

Stealing my point system, eh?