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#1 X13WINGS13X

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 08:18 PM

I have done the research and have concluded that with both the young and expierenced players that the Red Wings have, we can create another Russian Five. Based on what teams need with what the Wings have and player asking salaries, the wings can acquire the following players(to line-up with Pavel Datsyuk) without breaking the salary cap:

Alexander Frolov

Sergei Gonchar

Nikolai Zherdev

Anton Volchenkov

I know it seems like a longshot, but these players are coming from teams who could use players with experience which the wings have and these players all have high salaries that would balance out the cap.



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Posted 04 June 2010 - 08:42 PM

not a chance.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 10:58 PM

Alexander Frolov
Sergei Gonchar

Anton Volchenkov
Nikolai Zherdev



We would have to give up alot for the first 3.


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Posted 05 June 2010 - 11:25 AM

Gonchar and Volchenkov are both FA's, how long is Frolov in LA until?

I'm not too sure the salaries would work out considering some dumbass team is going to offer Gonchar or Volchenkov a s*** ton of money

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 05:23 PM

Frolov is UFA and will be looking for more than the Wings can afford. I'd prefer Wojlski for a UFA anyways. Evgeny Artyukhin (UFA) is out there, does he count?

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 07:43 PM

toooooo extreme. this would be a sick russian five though haha


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Posted 06 June 2010 - 01:32 AM

that would never happen

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:11 AM

Sounds nice.

It isn't even in the same ball park as the original Russian Five though. Their sum talent was out of this world.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:21 AM



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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:19 AM

haha i love listening to the announcers saying their names, ov to ov to ov
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 04:28 PM

haha i love listening to the announcers saying their names, ov to ov to ov


It's not like that anymore.

Now it's in to ar to in to uk to uk.

Malkin
Gonchar
Ovechkin
Datsyuk
Kovalchuk

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 12:20 PM

I have done the research and have concluded that with both the young and expierenced players that the Red Wings have, we can create another Russian Five. Based on what teams need with what the Wings have and player asking salaries, the wings can acquire the following players(to line-up with Pavel Datsyuk) without breaking the salary cap:

Alexander Frolov

Sergei Gonchar

Nikolai Zherdev

Anton Volchenkov

I know it seems like a longshot, but these players are coming from teams who could use players with experience which the wings have and these players all have high salaries that would balance out the cap.


Frolov is going to the KHL
Gonchar is on the downhill. the leg injury he had is killing him still and i'd rather have volchenkov.
Zherdev is already in or going to the KHL isn't he? and he has zero drive and work ethic. so much skill, so little effort.
Volchenkov is asking for too much for what he provides. defensive dman that blocks lots of shots that decently make the first pass out of the zone....may as well re-sign lilja for $1mil then. Volchenkov is probably going to the Caps anyways. their D is terrible.

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 01:17 PM

Overall I don't think today's Russians can put together a lineup that can beat the Russian Five.

LD - Fetisov versus Gonchar
RD - Konstantinov versus ...????... Volchenkov???
RW - Fedorov versus Malkin
C - Larionov versus Datsyuk
LW - Kozlov versus Ovechkin

Ovechkin and Gonchar probably win the one on one individual battles but as a unit I think the Russian Five was A LOT more cohesive than today's potential all Russian unit. I just think that with Ovechkin, Malkin and Datsyuk that you have way too many guys that want the puck and so we wouldn't see nearly anything that resembles the endless cycles that the Russian Five used to play. Plus, the Russian Five all learned hockey in the same Soviet system, which they credit to the way they play so well together.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 10:39 AM

datsyuk wins the individual battle too i think. and i agree about how they are probably more cohesive because they all learned from the same soviet system. i think we saw in the olympics how the russian team wasnt really in-sync although they have so much talent but guys just wanted to do it all by themselves.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 11:08 AM

Sounds nice.

It isn't even in the same ball park as the original Russian Five though. Their sum talent was out of this world.


Yes. There will never be another group force like them out on the ice. I STILL say somebody oughta make a tape - albeit not a long one - of their play throughout the time they were together.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 02:49 PM

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 11:21 PM

i dont think that this was meant to be serious, obviously were not bringing in ovechkin, malkin, gonchar, and volchenkov lol


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Posted 10 June 2010 - 09:33 PM

Kabanov Datsyuk Kovalchuk
Volchenkov Markov


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Kronwall Ericsson

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 12:46 AM

salary cap

Wait....this isnt NHL 10????
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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:35 AM

Plus it seems like the Russians back then all went through the same Soviet school of that particular style of hockey. These days I would guess that the Russian schools have a lot more differences in the way they teach hockey that the kind of fluidity we saw with the Russian Five can't really be re-created.





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