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[Hockeytown0001]

This is true.

[LeftWinger]

Why Holmstrom? Holmstrom steps it up when needed. He has always been a playoff scorer, he seems to up his game then. If he can still net 25 goals regular season and 5-10 playoffs, then $1.8M is WELL worth it. Why do you think Draper and Maltby stuck around so long? They stepped it up in the playoffs consistently, now they are replaceable, right now, Tomas Holmstrom is NOT replaceable, well not unless you are gonna replace him with Ryan Smyth or Ryan Geztlaf and that's not gonna happen for less than $2M... Plus 10,000 points for Holland AND Holmstrom for this deal! (not to mention he could've easily gotten $3M on the market, that saves us $1.2M in Cap Space to spend elsewhere)

Lids for $6.2M
Holmstrom for $1.8M

That's TWO 4 time Stanley Cup Champs, who are the BEST at what they do for $4M a piece! When you think that Lids could've gotten $10M and Holmstrom $3M, that's FREAKIN AMAZING!

[GMRwings1983]

I dare someone to start a "Why Lidstrom" thread now, based on the good vibes this OP has gotten here.

[HankthaTank]

Why Holmstrom? Holmstrom steps it up when needed. He has always been a playoff scorer, he seems to up his game then. If he can still net 25 goals regular season and 5-10 playoffs, then $1.8M is WELL worth it. Why do you think Draper and Maltby stuck around so long? They stepped it up in the playoffs consistently, now they are replaceable, right now, Tomas Holmstrom is NOT replaceable, well not unless you are gonna replace him with Ryan Smyth or Ryan Geztlaf and that's not gonna happen for less than $2M... Plus 10,000 points for Holland AND Holmstrom for this deal! (not to mention he could've easily gotten $3M on the market, that saves us $1.2M in Cap Space to spend elsewhere)

Lids for $6.2M
Holmstrom for $1.8M

That's TWO 4 time Stanley Cup Champs, who are the BEST at what they do for $4M a piece! When you think that Lids could've gotten $10M and Holmstrom $3M, that's FREAKIN AMAZING!

THIS...HOORAY!!!

[Frozen-Man]

I dare someone to start a "Why Lidstrom" thread now, based on the good vibes this OP has gotten here.

[KrazyGangsta]

To be honest with the Holmstrom signing it would of been awesome if he was signed at 1.5 million $ but anything in between 1.5 - 2 million is a great deal. So having Holmstrom at 1.850 m $ is awesome.

Holmstrom might not be your sniper that most of LGW is wishing for (Kovalchuk) but his probably one of the most important key players on this team since his been here.

His a very crucial player on the PP for the Wings and for all those years that we've been ranked in the top PP's it was due to his presence.

He is getting older and he will contribute to this team with all he can, now will he improve from this past season chances are yes because he had an injury last season just like half of the team.

Worst case scenario if his play decreases then it's only a 2 year contract at 1.850 it can't hurt us.

I'm glad we kept Holmstrom.

[Buppy]

Why Holmstrom? Holmstrom steps it up when needed. He has always been a playoff scorer, he seems to up his game then. If he can still net 25 goals regular season and 5-10 playoffs, then $1.8M is WELL worth it. Why do you think Draper and Maltby stuck around so long? They stepped it up in the playoffs consistently, now they are replaceable, right now, Tomas Holmstrom is NOT replaceable, well not unless you are gonna replace him with Ryan Smyth or Ryan Geztlaf and that's not gonna happen for less than $2M... Plus 10,000 points for Holland AND Holmstrom for this deal! (not to mention he could've easily gotten $3M on the market, that saves us $1.2M in Cap Space to spend elsewhere)

Lids for $6.2M
Holmstrom for $1.8M

That's TWO 4 time Stanley Cup Champs, who are the BEST at what they do for $4M a piece! When you think that Lids could've gotten $10M and Holmstrom $3M, that's FREAKIN AMAZING!

Not to derail, but no way Nick could get $10 anywhere but maybe the KHL. $8 maybe based on reputation, $7 almost certainly. Homer might have been able to draw $3 for a one year, but for 2 years that'd be a stretch.

Realistically, our savings are in the $1.5-2 million range. Which is still damn good and all the more reason not to exaggerate.

[toby91_ca]

Why Holmstrom? Holmstrom steps it up when needed. He has always been a playoff scorer, he seems to up his game then. If he can still net 25 goals regular season and 5-10 playoffs, then $1.8M is WELL worth it. Why do you think Draper and Maltby stuck around so long? They stepped it up in the playoffs consistently, now they are replaceable, right now, Tomas Holmstrom is NOT replaceable, well not unless you are gonna replace him with Ryan Smyth or Ryan Geztlaf and that's not gonna happen for less than $2M... Plus 10,000 points for Holland AND Holmstrom for this deal! (not to mention he could've easily gotten $3M on the market, that saves us $1.2M in Cap Space to spend elsewhere)

Lids for $6.2M
Holmstrom for $1.8M

That's TWO 4 time Stanley Cup Champs, who are the BEST at what they do for $4M a piece! When you think that Lids could've gotten $10M and Holmstrom $3M, that's FREAKIN AMAZING!

While I agree with most of what you are saying, this isn't true. He's only picked up the pace from the regular season in the playoffs in 3 of his 13 years in Detroit and hasn't done so in the past 7 years straight.

[Doggy]

Not to derail, but no way Nick could get $10 anywhere but maybe the KHL. $8 maybe based on reputation, $7 almost certainly. Homer might have been able to draw $3 for a one year, but for 2 years that'd be a stretch.

Realistically, our savings are in the $1.5-2 million range. Which is still damn good and all the more reason not to exaggerate.

Tiresome.

[13dangledangle]

ahahahahaha at everyone involved here (in a good way) great to see everyone (almost) standing up for this team

I myself though have questioned Holmer coming back this year, and the only way I would have not have re-signed him was if we signed Afinogenov(who I thought was available as a rfa but now I dont know?) instead, and thats a gamble too!
As far as Lids and Holland? cant really argue having either of them around as long as they want to be here!

[Puckpossession]

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The Wings need forwards who can score, that was evident all year.

Is there something else you think Homer is doing? 25 goals, right?


FYI that 25 goals came from a player making $2.25M/ per. You can't predict what he will do next year, he is however another year older & can he get any slower? We could have used that money to get younger, bigger and faster.

Dude speed isn't all there is to hockey, speed isn't holmers game, and he has good skill around him, hes 1.8m player for a reason and he produces, if anything he shouldnt get worse because hes conistent on his job.

ahahahahaha at everyone involved here (in a good way) great to see everyone (almost) standing up for this team

I myself though have questioned Holmer coming back this year, and the only way I would have not have re-signed him was if we signed Afinogenov(who I thought was available as a rfa but now I dont know?) instead, and thats a gamble too!
As far as Lids and Holland? cant really argue having either of them around as long as they want to be here!

lol you would take afiniganov on OUR team instead of holmstrom, our team has better playmakers than him, and not enough holmers

[StayClassy]

Never said he was a free agent, was just comparing salaries to what he made last year, I have no idea what his next contract will be & neither do you, it's all speculation at this point. Still does not debunk my point that money could be spent more wisely & better talent generated.

Ya guys, why doesn't Holland just get Stamkos?! He had 51! goals last season, and is making .875mil a year! Surely the added offense would help the team right?

[Echolalia]

Ya guys, why doesn't Holland just get Stamkos?! He had 51! goals last season, and is making .875mil a year! Surely the added offense would help the team right?

Pssh .875 is a lot for someone who can only score 51 goals. I mean, he's technically worth it, but he'll have to take a Red Wings' discount in order to show his loyalty.

[HankthaTank]

Ya guys, why doesn't Holland just get Stamkos?! He had 51! goals last season, and is making .875mil a year! Surely the added offense would help the team right?

I would expect nothing less from someone with Columbus roots. Not a possibilty man. Pipe dreams are fun but this is a looooong shot. Assuming Stevie didn't go to Tampa to troll us some awesome deals.

[redwingcapt]

jroach17, youre an idiot. if didny notice, when homer is healthy, he is one of our best fore checkers. plus 25 plus goals and not counting all the ones he creates by sitting in front of other teams goalies... he should get paid more on any other team but this is Detroit and his home, so he takes less than he deserves

[HankthaTank]

Love when guys prove that dedication to wearing the winged wheel and take less money. Its the Red Wing way!

[Stinkyness]

Holmstrom is a warrior. The Demolition Man. And he is one of the keys to Detroit's success over the years. There is no one better at what he does. NO ONE>>ANYWHERE.
Period. He deserves to retire a Wing.

[Jesusberg]

Because he's the mother****** Demolition Man...

[miller76]

In this day and age of big speedy forwards, and great two way players, why in the world would the Wings resign Holmstrom? He is only good for the powerplay, he is a liability on defense, & my grandma can skate faster than him. This was our chance to get younger, faster, bigger with Free agency. We signed Lidstrom, okay fine, still think we paid too much, but I'm okay with it. I'm not okay with the human pylon being resigned. We probably should have kept Leino instead of Holmstrom seeing as how he is playing right now. I'm also starting to think we should have kept Steve Yzerman & let Holland walk too, that was a bad move for the future Holland, you blew it!

I have read a lot of crap on this board. But you take the cake here.

When you have the best owners in hockey, Jim Nill, Holland, the scouting and support staff this team as assembled over the years and you win four Cups in 11 years, make the playoffs every year. Other teams take notice. The staff of this team has been dissected over the years, because it's well run by smart people! People who look at the big picture. Teams are feasting on our sloppy seconds and doing really good. One of the great things this organization does for the sport of hockey is establish, groom, and promote their people. And if they ever feel like they want to leave, their time spent here will always be the highlight of their careers. And they will go on to be successful wherever they may go.

BTW, Leino was not interested in learning the hardest system in hockey. There was never an issue with his talent, but his ability to conform. We all know Holmstrom has lost a step or two in the last 4-5 years. But Holmstrom has always worked his ass off, scoring the hardest goals, and paying the price nightly. And maybe your grandma can skate faster than him. But can your grandma tip a puck or take 5 or more crosschecks a night?

[Doc Holliday]

-34.

Is that a record?