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[13dangledangle]

Dude speed isn't all there is to hockey, speed isn't holmers game, and he has good skill around him, hes 1.8m player for a reason and he produces, if anything he shouldnt get worse because hes conistent on his job.



lol you would take afiniganov on OUR team instead of holmstrom, our team has better playmakers than him, and not enough holmers

Yes Ive thought about it, and I really think if we re-signed Bert and went with Bert-Flip-Mule on line 2 then Zetterberg-Datysuk-Afinogenov on line 1 then we'd be in pretty good shape. Silly I know

[Broken 16]

-34.

Is that a record?

I'd have to say no since there are at least three regular posters who are actively farming neg points.

[Crymson]

As much as I'd like to join in the general ridiculing of the OP, it appears that all of the necessary points against him have already been made. It's too bad that his refusal to return and take responsibility for his statements has deprived us of the opportunity to lambaste him further.

[miller76]

wow, a -42 and counting. Your plus/minus is worse than Rod Brind'Amour's

[Supface]

i've never seen a -43 post before. awesome.

[GMRwings1983]

wow, a -42 and counting. Your plus/minus is worse than Rod Brind'Amour's

I could so totally beat that.

I've been saving this "Yzerman" thread up for years. It may be time to unleash it.

[Z Winged Dangler]

I feel dirty... I just agreed 100% with an entire post by Carman...

yup, me too. it's...weird.

[NGKEIB]

Am I the only one who slightly disagrees with the argument that Osgood's success is a result of the Wings solid play, and that he sucked in St. Louis and New York?

[HankthaTank]

-54 now... Not sure what's crazier-

The -54 for the post or

The +17 to Carman??? Although it was pretty much all that had to be said, just crazy stats in this thread lol.

[CenterIce]

Am I the only one who slightly disagrees with the argument that Osgood's success is a result of the Wings solid play, and that he sucked in St. Louis and New York?

He played well in those cities and actually made those teams pretty good.

Season Team Lge GP Min GA EN SO GAA W L T
2001-02 NYI NHL 66 3743 156 6 4 2.50 32 25 6
2002-03 NYI NHL 37 1993 97 4 2 2.92 17 14 4
2002-03 Blues NHL 9 532 27 1 2 3.05 4 3 2
2003-04 Blues NHL 67 3861 144 3 3 2.24 31 25 8

[SwedeLundin77]

I started to go though each NHL team & cap money to compare salaries, but I just don't have the time to really investigate & not to mention that the $1.875 we gave Holmstrom could be combined with other money to sign a better forward.

Believe me, I'm not happy with Cleary's contract at all! Rafalski has been very good since coming here & in some aguments has played better than Lidstrom at times, so that one I will let go.

Not that I have investigated it fully but Jussi Jokinen for instance last year made $1.7M, he had 30 goals & 35 assists. All I'm saying is to take a step back, & take off the Red Wing hat, the Holmstrom jersey & the Red colored glasses, & look at the possiblity that we could have spent that money more wisely.

Sorry, but fail.

You need to do a little more research when trying to make your point. Jussi Jokinen had a breakout season under his current contract. He never scored more than 17 goals in the NHL before this past season, and that was in 2005/2006. Whenever his contract is up, he'll be seeking a boost to around 3 mil at least. He'll be making 1.9 mil this upcoming season and then he's a UFA. Maybe we'll sign him next year instead of bringing Cleary back.

Holmstrom on this team is a WIN. There is no doubt about that. You need to have specialists, that's one way you build championship teams. Holmstrom is THE best at what he does. Enough said.

[Supface]

-54 now... Not sure what's crazier-

The -54 for the post or

The +17 to Carman??? Although it was pretty much all that had to be said, just crazy stats in this thread lol.

[CaliWingsNut]

Well... the +18 to Carman is at least keeping him above -300 +/-