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#61 newfy

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 02:24 PM

I'm feeling like the Wings will go after Johan Larsson if he's around by the time they pick in the 2nd.

Depending on who they take in the first round I want them to take Brad Ross in the second. If they get someone like Tinordi/Mcilrath in the first then Ross won't really matter but if they do end up taking someone like SKinner/Kabanov/Etem etc I really want them to take Ross

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 02:35 PM

If you wanna take a risk with someone who doesn't have the mental tools take it with Macfarland. His skill set is right up there with Kabanov but the difference is to go along with Kabanovs mental issues he has the chance of going to the KHL. We at least know Macfarland won't dothat and he could be an elite talent as well.

His skill set is right up there with anyone in the draft but he's slipping probably. Its not so much the prima donna attitude of Kabanov that bugs me but its the KHL/Russian factor that does.

Ok I understand you are retarded, I have learned to live with this fact, but just because a player is european/russian doesn't mean he will goto the KHL one day. Should the Wings write off every european player just because they might go to the KHL one day? s*** man, players make weird decisions everyday, there was a baseball player who became a priest, despite the fact he was a great prospect, and what about Pat Tillman who was a professional football player who decided to go into the army? It doesn't matter where you are from, you can always decide to do something else.

Depending on who they take in the first round I want them to take Brad Ross in the second. If they get someone like Tinordi/Mcilrath in the first then Ross won't really matter but if they do end up taking someone like SKinner/Kabanov/Etem etc I really want them to take Ross

Why are you so high on Mcilrath? Hes really not top 25... if the wings go after a defender they need someone who will be a 1-3 not a 4-6, and this guy stinks of bottom pairing defender.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 02:54 PM

judging by the comments at the bottom of the page it looks recent

It might have been put up recently, but is is still way off. That is similar to the way some drafts looked early last season.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 03:11 PM

Depending on who they take in the first round I want them to take Brad Ross in the second. If they get someone like Tinordi/Mcilrath in the first then Ross won't really matter but if they do end up taking someone like SKinner/Kabanov/Etem etc I really want them to take Ross


I think they're waiting to see how Callahan turns out. He's only 18 and already has his first contract with the Wings. I'm excited to see how he can do-- he managed to improve his CHL numbers this year while still playing the role of pest/fighter. Ross sounds very similar to Callahan.

If they take a skill forward in the 1st I'd like to see a big shut-down d-man picked up in the 2nd or 3rd.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 03:17 PM

Ok I understand you are retarded, I have learned to live with this fact, but just because a player is european/russian doesn't mean he will goto the KHL one day. Should the Wings write off every european player just because they might go to the KHL one day? s*** man, players make weird decisions everyday, there was a baseball player who became a priest, despite the fact he was a great prospect, and what about Pat Tillman who was a professional football player who decided to go into the army? It doesn't matter where you are from, you can always decide to do something else.


Why are you so high on Mcilrath? Hes really not top 25... if the wings go after a defender they need someone who will be a 1-3 not a 4-6, and this guy stinks of bottom pairing defender.

No if you don't think there is a risk of Russian players going to the KHL then you are the retarded one. Hmm I wonder why all the pro scouting associations have him ranked not even in the first round? If he's got such a high skill set then you would think he would be top 3 or 4 but wait hes in the second round. Oh yeah hes a locker room cancer and has risk of going to the KHL because he is russian. But Detroit isn't some godly organization that can change players. Look at Ryno, Axelson,Larson and Hudler for that matter

And I'm high on Mcilrath because he is ranked almost 15 spots higher by central scouting then Kabanov. And is being projected as a number 2 or 3. How many games have you seen by either player? I guarantee the scouts have seen a hell of a lot more. How many interviews have you conducted with each player? I guarantee you the scouts have done more.

Trust me I think these scouts know more about the players then you do, but go ahead and keep thinking you have some insight into Kabanovs head and that he will be the next Datsyuk, but the scouts think otherwise. You know the ones who are paid to look at the players?

I dont think there is much risk in taking a European from every country except Russia and you are stupid to think there isn't a risk there. I'm also sick of seeing guys bolt back to Europe on this organization, Two of our best prospects and our next best goalie just did it as well as a roster player who can put up some points. Kabanov won't do us any good with his "high skill" if he's using it for Moscow Dynamo or some other team like that

I think they're waiting to see how Callahan turns out. He's only 18 and already has his first contract with the Wings. I'm excited to see how he can do-- he managed to improve his CHL numbers this year while still playing the role of pest/fighter. Ross sounds very similar to Callahan.

If they take a skill forward in the 1st I'd like to see a big shut-down d-man picked up in the 2nd or 3rd.

Yeah I wouldn't mind a trade down. Pick up a skill guy then have an early second pick and take Tinordi or Petrovic.

As for Callahan he's not going to be nothing more then a 4th liner, Ross has some skill and could be a good piece to a 3rd line.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 03:27 PM

No if you don't think there is a risk of Russian players going to the KHL then you are the retarded one. Hmm I wonder why all the pro scouting associations have him ranked not even in the first round? If he's got such a high skill set then you would think he would be top 3 or 4 but wait hes in the second round. Oh yeah hes a locker room cancer and has risk of going to the KHL because he is russian. But Detroit isn't some godly organization that can change players. Look at Ryno, Axelson,Larson and Hudler for that matter

And I'm high on Mcilrath because he is ranked almost 15 spots higher by central scouting then Kabanov. And is being projected as a number 2 or 3. How many games have you seen by either player? I guarantee the scouts have seen a hell of a lot more. How many interviews have you conducted with each player? I guarantee you the scouts have done more.

Trust me I think these scouts know more about the players then you do, but go ahead and keep thinking you have some insight into Kabanovs head and that he will be the next Datsyuk, but the scouts think otherwise. You know the ones who are paid to look at the players?

I dont think there is much risk in taking a European from every country except Russia and you are stupid to think there isn't a risk there. I'm also sick of seeing guys bolt back to Europe on this organization, Two of our best prospects and our next best goalie just did it as well as a roster player who can put up some points. Kabanov won't do us any good with his "high skill" if he's using it for Moscow Dynamo or some other team like that


Yeah I wouldn't mind a trade down. Pick up a skill guy then have an early second pick and take Tinordi or Petrovic.

As for Callahan he's not going to be nothing more then a 4th liner, Ross has some skill and could be a good piece to a 3rd line.

I didn't say there was no risk, I acknowledged the risk but counter that with humans you always have risks. I wasnt talking about Kabanov, I was thinking of Valdimir Tarasenko, who has a top 5 skill set, but could easily fall because of the risk. He is ranked 10 spots for skill over your guy, but there is risk. But ive seen your guy both low and high on lists depending on how they are evaluated, for pure skill hes getting beaten to the outside, has no offensive upside, and can't skate well, that screams 4th to 6th defensemen to me, and the wings don't need that.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 03:38 PM

I didn't say there was no risk, I acknowledged the risk but counter that with humans you always have risks. I wasnt talking about Kabanov, I was thinking of Valdimir Tarasenko, who has a top 5 skill set, but could easily fall because of the risk. He is ranked 10 spots for skill over your guy, but there is risk. But ive seen your guy both low and high on lists depending on how they are evaluated, for pure skill hes getting beaten to the outside, has no offensive upside, and can't skate well, that screams 4th to 6th defensemen to me, and the wings don't need that.

You sure made it seem like there is no risk. Calling me retarded because I dont wanna see another high end prospect stay overseas for a career. You hardly have risks with NA prospects about playing in the NHL, you don't often see them skipping to the KHL for the money or anything like that.

Its fine if players wanna do that but I dont want people who have a higher chance thenothers in ths organization when we can still get very good players with no risk of them playing inRussia

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 03:43 PM

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 03:45 PM

You sure made it seem like there is no risk. Calling me retarded because I dont wanna see another high end prospect stay overseas for a career. You hardly have risks with NA prospects about playing in the NHL, you don't often see them skipping to the KHL for the money or anything like that.

Its fine if players wanna do that but I dont want people who have a higher chance thenothers in ths organization when we can still get very good players with no risk of them playing inRussia

I'm calling you retarded because you'd pass on a high level offensive prospect for a slow, fighter who can't score in the first round. The wings are hurting for scoring talent in their system, and taking this risk seems smart to me, as should the odds play out and he decided to come to the NHL for high level competition or the KHL continues to collapse (and it is) than the wing get a top 5 player with a 21st overall pick.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 05:34 PM

As for Callahan he's not going to be nothing more then a 4th liner, Ross has some skill and could be a good piece to a 3rd line.


I wouldn't peg him as a 4th liner just yet, even if it looks like he will be at this point. He made great offensive strides in only a year-- who's to say he won't do the same this year? Holland obviously thinks he's got untapped potential because he signed this kid to his first contract 2 years early. I really think Callahan has the potential to be a 3rd liner who can be like Maltby in his prime.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 05:45 PM

Is it too late to pick John Kordic in the first round?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 05:58 PM

Anyone know of a stream? I was cheap on my TV package and don't have Vs :P

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 05:59 PM

From the current mocks:

Teemu Pulkkinen, Jokerit, Finnish SM-Liga. 5'11", 176#, LW. 15 points in 6 games at 2009 U18 World's, 13 points in 8 games in 2008 U18 World's. No HF analysis, extensive surgical history.

Vladimir Tarasenko, HC Sibir, KHL. 6'0", 191#, C. 24 points in 42 games this season with HC Sibir, 5 points in 6 games at the WJC. Hockey's Future analysis- An all-around forward, Tarasenko is a gifted, capable offensive player with good commitment in the defensive zone. He’s not a physical or a defensive player, but he has an uncommon will to get back to protect the zone, to get down to block shots and this kind of “dirty job” that is very valuable in the more demanding North American game. But he’s mostly an offensive talent and he showcased his skills in the latest two KHL seasons. He has great numbers for an 18-year-old, scoring 13 goals and 24 points (the same exact amount scored by Ovechkin in his draft year, but playing 10 games fewer) during this season, constantly playing in the team’s top six.

Nick Bjugstad, University of Minnesota, CCHA. 6'5", 190#, C. Minnesota's Mr. Hockey for 2009, 60 points in 25 games as a HS Senior. Committed to the University of Minnesota. Hockey's Future analysis- Bjugstad possesses great potential as a high-level power forward. He has the size, skill, and speed to be an effective offensive player at the pro level.

Austin Watson, Peterboro Petes, OHL. 6'3", 187#, RW. 34 points in 42 games for the Windsor Spitfires, 20 points in 10 games for the Petes. Hockey's Future analysis- Watson is two-way talent who is not afraid to sacrifice his body to make a play. he is a heart-and-soul forward that any NHL team would love to have on the roster. Watson isn't just a plugger, though, as he has some offensive skill in his arsenal.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:03 PM

Anyone know of a stream? I was cheap on my TV package and don't have Vs :P


I went to atdhe.net and clicked on live sports and just scroll down to find the link.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:03 PM

Nick Bjugstad, University of Minnesota, CCHA. 6'5", 190#, C. Minnesota's Mr. Hockey for 2009, 60 points in 25 games as a HS Senior. Committed to the University of Minnesota. Hockey's Future analysis- Bjugstad possesses great potential as a high-level power forward. He has the size, skill, and speed to be an effective offensive player at the pro level.

Works for me. That sounds like an all-around great pick for us. Size, center, power forward, speed? I'm in :thumbup:
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:05 PM

I went to atdhe.net and clicked on live sports and just scroll down to find the link.

my hero

TSN coverage even better

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:06 PM

Bjugstad or Watson look perfect. Some size, speed, soft hands.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:07 PM

taylor or tyler?
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:09 PM

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:11 PM

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