Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Do you hope they play together because you've actually seen them together and you liked what you saw, or because you'd think it would be neat to see the brothers on the ice together and you're hopefull that they'd play well together? Serious question. I don't think they've ever played together, except maybe in juniors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 My sister in law is an awesome hockey player. I'll never forget her mucking in our own corner with two guys and then coming out with the puck and yelling at my brother "Go deep, Love! and she hit him with a tape to tape pass for a rush. So freaking HOT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blgillett 48 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 This post. should go on the thread about hockey stories I'm not saying that it doesn't belong here but its a really cool story one I'm sure you will always remember Do you hope they play together because you've actually seen them together and you liked what you saw, or because you'd think it would be neat to see the brothers on the ice together and you're hopeful that they'd play well together? Serious question. There is something really cool about being on the ice with a family member. We iced a beer league line completely made up of my family once when my brother and his wife came to visit. My uncle paired Defensively with my wife, and I centered a line with my brother and his wife. My sister in law is an awesome hockey player. I'll never forget her mucking in our own corner with two guys and then coming out with the puck and yelling at my brother "Go deep, Love! and she hit him with a tape to tape pass for a rush. It would be really cool if this IFilp move works out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I don't think Flip the elder will make the Wings and it wouldn't surprise me if he never plays a game in the Winged-wheel, but I don't see what people are getting upset about. He's cheap, on a two way contract and will add some needed depth to Grand Rapids. Because some people clearly think they know better than Holland. For everyone bitching about potential. Get one thing straight. Potential isn't some video game. In hockey, potential means 'the ability to". Nothing more nothing less. iFlip has potential to be a good player. He has potential to be a player who can be a 20-20 player once he learns the North American game. As many European players have stated, playing in the NHL with better players raises your game. iFlip has potential whether you like it or not. So stop acting like you know everything and lets discuss how we (the Wings) can best utilize this guy's abilities. 1 Original-Six reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BamaWing 37 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I'd probably put them with someone who can clear some space for them, like Abdelkader or Cleary. I say that only because I'd be a little worried about Ilari's defensive play in his first season in North America. I was actually thinking about Abby when I posted that. I think it'd be a pretty nice 3rd line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Goalies are a different story then forwards. Forwards take the least amount of time to develop and goalies take the longest. Howard is 26 and just coming into the NHL for gods sake. There are a lot of leagues that are very close to the NHL, but if he's 28, never played in the NHL he hardly has anytime to adjust to the hockey before he's on the decline physically. At 28 your potential is tapped out. Having him as the 12 or 13 forward iss tupid too. We don't need a soft play maker trying to set up guy like Draper, Meech or Miller. Those guys need someone to get in hard on tehf orecheck with them and grind down low. Sorry Newfy, but a lot of this is your pure opinion on your part and is pretty far off base. How many players have came through the ranks of the NHL with the utmost highest skill set to be a dominate player, but because they lacked the mental fortitude, ended up sucking and not cutting it? Answer: a s*** ton. You're potential is maxed out at 28? LOL. And why exactly is he soft? Because he isn't Canadian? If iFlip has the mental toughness and hockey sense of a second or first line player and the skill set of a 3rd/2nd liner, then he has the potential to put up Cleary like numbers and be a decent 3rd line player. Although he isn't coming in as a early 20 player, his mental toughness and the way he is able to see the game better than most very young and raw players. he'll do fine, and if it's not this year then it'll be next year, and if it's not next year, then it'll be the year after with another team most likely. Good luck iFlip, don't worry about the handful of haters!!! The ratio of people that like this move to the ones that don't are very high to very little. 2 Finnish Wing and asoras reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian Geek 2 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I want to see what he can do in Traverse City with the boys before making any leaps on Ilari going right to the Wings' lineup. He'd have to outperform quite a few guys right off the bat to convince me it'd be a wise move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) At 28 your potential is tapped out. Edited June 21, 2010 by Drake_Marcus 6 Doc Holliday, Chris Avram, Finnish Wing and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 He will spend most if not all his time with GRR. If anything this is probably a "trial" year for him. See how he likes it playing NA hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) Frig that picture is huge.... hopefully it resized quickly for you guys and my internet is just slow. Fixed. Edited June 21, 2010 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Sorry Newfy, but a lot of this is your pure opinion on your part and is pretty far off base. How many players have came through the ranks of the NHL with the utmost highest skill set to be a dominate player, but because they lacked the mental fortitude, ended up sucking and not cutting it? Answer: a s*** ton. You're potential is maxed out at 28? LOL. And why exactly is he soft? Because he isn't Canadian? If iFlip has the mental toughness and hockey sense of a second or first line player and the skill set of a 3rd/2nd liner, then he has the potential to put up Cleary like numbers and be a decent 3rd line player. Although he isn't coming in as a early 20 player, his mental toughness and the way he is able to see the game better than most very young and raw players. he'll do fine, and if it's not this year then it'll be next year, and if it's not next year, then it'll be the year after with another team most likely. Good luck iFlip, don't worry about the handful of haters!!! The ratio of people that like this move to the ones that don't are very high to very little. No people said he doesn't like contact as soon as we first signed him, thats where I'm getting that from. People need to stop with the Newfy ahtes Euro's s*** because I don't, I hate soft players. Wherever theyre from. Yeah Drake how many season did he play in the NHL, being trained by one of the best coaching staffs in the world before finally hitting his stride. Mule was still even younger then Iflip when he started scoring in the NHL. And that was after 2 seasons in the NHL. The Mule comparison doesn't work here people, he played 2 NHL seasons before he started scoring at age 27. Iflip isn't going to play a role in the NHL until he is 30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Spooky, even for brothers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Spooky, even for brothers. Flip looks ridiculous with those big shoulder pads and tiny neck. I'm afraid he might suffocate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 No people said he doesn't like contact as soon as we first signed him, thats where I'm getting that from. People need to stop with the Newfy ahtes Euro's s*** because I don't, I hate soft players. Wherever theyre from. Yeah Drake how many season did he play in the NHL, being trained by one of the best coaching staffs in the world before finally hitting his stride. Mule was still even younger then Iflip when he started scoring in the NHL. And that was after 2 seasons in the NHL. The Mule comparison doesn't work here people, he played 2 NHL seasons before he started scoring at age 27. Iflip isn't going to play a role in the NHL until he is 30. Mule started scoring for real at the end of the 07-08 season and had his first big season 2 years ago in the 08-09 season. He's 30 right now. He was a 26 year old rookie. 1 Finnish Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 He could improve slightly fro better coaching etc in the NHL. But comparing a guy that is going to be 29 in his first NHL season to someone like Dats who played in the NHL, adjusted to the style of the game and still had time with prime years of his body left to play once he is adjusted. Comparing Datsyuk to a guy who didn't have the skills to get drafted, then played til he was 28 in a European league and isn't going to start NA hockey until he is 29 is a bit of a stretch. The guy is almost 30 without having played a single game in North America, if he gets better in GR next year he'll have a few seasons until his body really starts to go on the decline. He isn't superman his body isn't going to last forever even if he is a skilled player. I never compared him to Datsyuk, I merely used that as an example - AGE≠POTENTIAL Also, with the way players train today and advances in modern medicine, players in ALL sports are able to play better, longer - early 30's of the modern era is equal to mid twenties of 15 years ago... Once again, I never said he was going to come in here and set the world ablaze, but there's nothing to dislike about this signing - it is a zero risk move and we DON'T know what he CAN be... 2 Datsyukian Geek and Finnish Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 No people said he doesn't like contact as soon as we first signed him, thats where I'm getting that from. People need to stop with the Newfy ahtes Euro's s*** because I don't, I hate soft players. Wherever theyre from. Yeah Drake how many season did he play in the NHL, being trained by one of the best coaching staffs in the world before finally hitting his stride. Mule was still even younger then Iflip when he started scoring in the NHL. And that was after 2 seasons in the NHL. The Mule comparison doesn't work here people, he played 2 NHL seasons before he started scoring at age 27. Iflip isn't going to play a role in the NHL until he is 30. Ladies and gentlemen we have a backtracker... And newfy, everyone knows you have a penchant for talking up NA players and giving s*** to European players. You wanted Steve Downie on this team ffs. 1 Finnish Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 Ladies and gentlemen we have a backtracker... And newfy, everyone knows you have a penchant for talking up NA players and giving s*** to European players. You wanted Steve Downie on this team ffs. Yeah got forbid someone wants a player that can score over 20 goals at like the age of 22 and also can hit and fight well. That would be horrible for this team. I don't talk up NA players, i talk up tyough players. This team needs some hard hitters and some tougher players tyo really be the best ethy can br. Its just more often then not the tuogher guys available are Na players. Sorry that I wanna see some grit on this team, I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat,. 1 The Secret reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 "Val... to Ilari... Back to Val... Dropped back to Ilari... These two are like a two man Finnish Globetrotters... Val again... THREADS THE NEEDLE TO ILARI AND HE SCORESSSSS!!!! FILPULLA TEKEE MAALIN!!! VITTU JOOOOOOOO!!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 Although as much as I love the two, they're nowhere near the level of a poor man's Sedin twins. Especially as individuals. I wish they were that good. More like a homeless person's Sedin twins or Salvation Army or something like that. The Koivus are probably the top Finnish bros. Then maybe the Jokinens although I think the Ruutus are sometimes better overall than the Jokinens. Hopefully the Filppulas will join those ranks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) The Koivus are probably the top Finnish bros. Then maybe the Jokinens although I think the Ruutus are sometimes better overall than the Jokinens. Hopefully the Filppulas will join those ranks. Jussi and Olli are not related. Jussi has a younger brother playing in Finland though. Kiprusoff has an older brother playing in French league. Selanne also has an identical twin, which I've never seen - he doesn't play hockey. Timonen's younger brother plays in Finland as well. There are probably some others I can't think of right now. Edited June 22, 2010 by Finnish Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 Yeah got forbid someone wants a player that can score over 20 goals at like the age of 22 and also can hit and fight well. That would be horrible for this team. I don't talk up NA players, i talk up tyough players. This team needs some hard hitters and some tougher players tyo really be the best ethy can br. Its just more often then not the tuogher guys available are Na players. Sorry that I wanna see some grit on this team, I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat,. No, your not alone on this. I fully agree with you and I do talk up North American and more importantly Canadian players. I'm Canadian and I Love the way we play the game and I miss having good Canadian players in the mix on our team. I don't hate euro's but for the most part they do play a different style then NA players. My opinion is that we need a better mix! A better mix will give us a more exciting product on the ice... we haven't had what I am looking for since losing Yzerman, Shannahan, Old Mac, a Prime Grind Line. I'd rather see moves made to bring in a Carcillo or Asham rather then sign an unknown Filpula especially since i am not satisfied yet with the current Filpula. 1 redwingfan19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) Honestly sometimes I don't know why I bother posting links to Malik's blog because I feel like most if not all of us read it anyways. I guess I'll just post this for archival purposes in case mlive goes down or anything like that. This is a good link though. Filppula brothers critique each other It's brothers who know each other best. Valtteri Filppula and Ilari evaluate each other's abilities and future. 1. What are your brother's strengths? Valtteri: Ilari has great vision and plays a skillful game. He enters the offensive zone well and places himself in good positions. Ilari: Valtteri's always been a well-rounded player. He makes good passes, and is in on secondary scoring chances. A good skater. Creates lots of chances. 2. What does your brother still need to improve? Valtteri: Probably skating. Though he's gotten better. I hope he'll improve in this area. Ilari: Probably a little bit of everything. I can't say one thing. More courage and endurance. I definitely agree about Filppula though. Just a little bit of everything will go a looooonooonng way for him. I really want to see him play as well as I believe he can. Edited August 13, 2010 by titanium2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted August 13, 2010 Probably a little bit of everything. I can't say one thing. More courage and endurance. He hit the nail on the head there. Filppula is as good as his confidence will take him. That goal he scored from the outside of the circles last year against the coyotes last year is a perfect example of that. 1 Finnish Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted August 13, 2010 It would be really cool to see both Flips on the same line. I hope iFlip sticks around long enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted August 13, 2010 It would be really cool to see both Flips on the same line. I hope iFlip sticks around long enough. Is that a new iphone app? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
