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Posted 22 June 2010 - 11:12 AM

this quote, which is newer, begs to differ.

“Ideally, yeah, we’d love to go out and get an enforcer,” general manager Ken Holland said Monday. “But I can’t make one up. We don’t have one in our organization right now, so I have one of two choices. Either I trade for one or I get one through free agency.”

sounds like all us pro enforcer fans wish is going to come true :hehe:


http://www.kuklaskor...et_an_enforcer/

This was the quote I was speaking of: "You'd like to bring in a Brad May or an Aaron Downey-type player, but if it's not there, it's not there," Holland said. "If we can't fit it in, we would go without it. It's just impossible to address every single need in a cap world."

To me that sounds like he's giving up on the enforcer thing for now.
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 11:25 AM

This was the quote I was speaking of: "You'd like to bring in a Brad May or an Aaron Downey-type player, but if it's not there, it's not there," Holland said. "If we can't fit it in, we would go without it. It's just impossible to address every single need in a cap world."

To me that sounds like he's giving up on the enforcer thing for now.


No it doesn't. He's saying he'll get one if he has the cap room for one.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 11:25 AM

this quote, which is newer, begs to differ.

“Ideally, yeah, we’d love to go out and get an enforcer,” general manager Ken Holland said Monday. “But I can’t make one up. We don’t have one in our organization right now, so I have one of two choices. Either I trade for one or I get one through free agency.”

sounds like all us pro enforcer fans wish is going to come true :hehe:


http://www.kuklaskor...et_an_enforcer/

Where did that quote come from? And how old is it? Because thats pretty damn good news to me. If he does want to sign a free agent enforcer, Konopka should be the guy. He'll be cheap, and provides some elements this team could use. Good on faceoffs, good defensively and the most active fighter in the NHL.

This offseason we have a choice between the most active fighter in the league or the scariest and toughest. Konopka or Boogard... I would rather Konopka.






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Posted 22 June 2010 - 11:31 AM

Well if there was any sort of hope for Wild fans that Boogaard would be back,its been shot down with Minnesota trading for Brad Staubitz.
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 11:34 AM

No it doesn't. He's saying he'll get one if he has the cap room for one.

I didn't say what it reads. I said what it sounds like. That quote is new and when you look at the older ones, those had him basically saying that he's going after some guy like that. Now he only says that he WOULD like to get one, but "if it's not there, it's not there".

This offseason we have a choice between the most active fighter in the league or the scariest and toughest. Konopka or Boogard... I would rather Konopka.

I'd easily take Konopka if he is like some you've said. I seriously don't see a guy like Boogaard a fit here. You need to do more than just fight out there.
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 11:42 AM

Where did that quote come from? And how old is it? Because thats pretty damn good news to me. If he does want to sign a free agent enforcer, Konopka should be the guy. He'll be cheap, and provides some elements this team could use. Good on faceoffs, good defensively and the most active fighter in the NHL.

This offseason we have a choice between the most active fighter in the league or the scariest and toughest. Konopka or Boogard... I would rather Konopka.


this article I believe was posted today according to the date of it but holland said this yesterday.

Even though in the other thread I said I would waste a roster spot on boogaard, I would also rather have knopka as he can play more than a boogaard can because of his defense and faceoffs.


Either way, depending on what happens with the RFA's I believe will dictate weather we have an enforcer or not.

I didn't say what it reads. I said what it sounds like. That quote is new and when you look at the older ones, those had him basically saying that he's going after some guy like that. Now he only says that he WOULD like to get one, but "if it's not there, it's not there".

I'd easily take Konopka if he is like some you've said. I seriously don't see a guy like Boogaard a fit here. You need to do more than just fight out there.



He just saying that though, there is a list of about 20 guys I've seen in thread here that would be available that could fill the enforcer role. Im sure at least one of those guys will be available for the wings. :)


Edit: I 100% garuntee an enforcer will be available for the wings. It's a matter of if holland has the balls to sign one or not.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 02:06 PM

this article I believe was posted today according to the date of it but holland said this yesterday.

Even though in the other thread I said I would waste a roster spot on boogaard, I would also rather have knopka as he can play more than a boogaard can because of his defense and faceoffs.


Either way, depending on what happens with the RFA's I believe will dictate weather we have an enforcer or not.




He just saying that though, there is a list of about 20 guys I've seen in thread here that would be available that could fill the enforcer role. Im sure at least one of those guys will be available for the wings. :)


Edit: I 100% garuntee an enforcer will be available for the wings. It's a matter of if holland has the balls to sign one or not.

This right here is exactly true. This year is one of the better free agent groups in a while available to sign some toughness.

Holland could make a run at guys like Nystrom, Burish, Asham and other guys like that.

Or if he wants a heavyweight type theres guys like Konopka, Boogard, Boulton etc.

He says in a cap world its not a necessity or whatever, but these type of players are usually the cheapest in the league. Konopka could probably be had for about 800k. Drop Miller, Sign Konopka and we're set.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 02:09 PM

Drop Miller, Sign Konopka and we're set.



:siren: DING DING DING!!!! :siren:

EDIT: haha I had to edit a 3 word post. Damn lamps...

Edited by HankthaTank, 22 June 2010 - 02:10 PM.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 02:26 PM

:siren: DING DING DING!!!! :siren:

EDIT: haha I had to edit a 3 word post. Damn lamps...

It sounds great to me. Replace Miller, a guy who doesn't hit or do anything physical at all for someone like Konopka on the 4th line. Abdelkader is going to be up next season anyways so he can play the PK in place of Miller. Babcock already said he is going to be a penalty killer next season from the get go.

Konopka is still relatively young too, 29 I think, so we would have a guy for the next few seasons at at least instead of going season by season signing an old washed up player.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:10 PM

I'm sorry, what's the subject again? I don't think you even know what you're talking about.

Well that's a surprise! All you basically do here is agree with what other people say without ever saying anything useful yourself.


I'm talking about players reaching their potential or, in effect, getting better after age 28. But since you said that the body starts to decline "after age 33", your statement was even more idiotic. Don't resort to personal attacks just because you make moronic statements. I bet a fraction of a percent of all athletes (unless they are performance enhanced) set any kind of personal bests after they reach their early 30's. Don't think so much when you are obviously ill equipped.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:13 PM

your statement was even more idiotic.

Don't resort to personal attacks just because you make moronic statements.
Don't think so much when you are obviously ill equipped.


:D sorry...it was out there.
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:28 PM

I'm talking about players reaching their potential or, in effect, getting better after age 28. But since you said that the body starts to decline "after age 33", your statement was even more idiotic. Don't resort to personal attacks just because you make moronic statements. I bet a fraction of a percent of all athletes (unless they are performance enhanced) set any kind of personal bests after they reach their early 30's. Don't think so much when you are obviously ill equipped.

I was talking about players having still potential after 28 being possible. You don't agree with that?

Where did I say like that? Maybe you should read my posts again - if you even did so in the first place. The other guy here said that players body starts to decline "shortly after" 30. I said it's closer to 35 than 30.
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:31 PM

:D sorry...it was out there.


I only respond in that fashion when provoked.

I was talking about players having still potential after 28 being possible. You don't agree with that?

Where did I say like that? Maybe you should read my posts again - if you even did so in the first place. The other guy here said that players body starts to decline "shortly after" 30. I said it's closer to 35 than 30.



Closer to 35? Ahh, I see, in Finland that logically makes you more correct than "shortly after 30". Thanks for the clarification Einstein.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:31 PM

I only respond in that fashion when provoked.


Just messing man. I am totally on the outside so forgive the pointless posts I seem to put up occasionally. I just want some hockey to start!!! :ranting:
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:38 PM

I only respond in that fashion when provoked.




Closer to 35? Ahh, I see, in Finland that logically makes you more correct than "shortly after 30". Thanks for the clarification Einstein.

Closer to 35 could be 37 for example. SHORTLY after 30 is more like 31 or 32. What are you even trying to say here? According to you I said players start to decline after 33 which I never did. Now you're trying to correct your mistake by talking about my home country? Seriously...
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:47 PM

Closer to 35 could be 37 for example. SHORTLY after 30 is more like 31 or 32. What are you even trying to say here? According to you I said players start to decline after 33 which I never did. Now you're trying to correct your mistake by talking about my home country? Seriously...



Any you're trying to argue semantics (I'll define that if you like). Whether it's 33, 35 or 37, what does it really matter? If you think more than a small handful of athletes have ever realized their potential in any sport at that age, I'll have some of what you're smoking. I'd have to think you're in a very small minority with that mindset. SERIOUSLY!!!

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:55 PM

Any you're trying to argue semantics (I'll define that if you like). Whether it's 33, 35 or 37, what does it really matter? If you think more than a small handful of athletes have ever realized their potential in any sport at that age, I'll have some of what you're smoking. I'd have to think you're in a very small minority with that mindset. SERIOUSLY!!!

Hahha. Way to turn it around. Now you're speaking about potential again. CAN YOU READ? We were talking about when players start to decline. No, it doesn't matter to me. But I can definitely say it's later than "shortly after 30" in today's hockey.

Learn to read and come back after that. I said players can still have potential at the age of 28. I NEVER said anything like players still having potential at the age of 33. That's a HUGE difference.

Where do these guys come from?
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 06:54 PM

Hahha. Way to turn it around. Now you're speaking about potential again. CAN YOU READ? We were talking about when players start to decline. No, it doesn't matter to me. But I can definitely say it's later than "shortly after 30" in today's hockey.

Learn to read and come back after that. I said players can still have potential at the age of 28. I NEVER said anything like players still having potential at the age of 33. That's a HUGE difference.

Where do these guys come from?


Your statement: "About that body declining. I wouldn't say it's shortly after 30 when player's body starts to decline. I'd say it's closer to 35 than 30. In fact I don't know any player who at age of 33 for example have started to decline." If you really believe this, you're an imbicile. Look at the statistics, they don't lie. A huge majority players have started their decline before the age of 33. Just admit you got caught talking out of your ass and go on your way.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:45 PM

I'd love a fighter on the team but not Konopka. He has a big mouth and plays a little dirty. When that happens and he pisses off the other team, who is going to pay for it? Konopka can only fend off so much. The Wings need a good honest player to fill that role like a Asham or Moen type, not a Konopka who doesn't add much else besides fighting and like I said he adds more aggression from the other team then he fends off.

I don't want him but I hope he stays in the league with a team where he can ride shotgun.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 09:42 PM

I'd love a fighter on the team but not Konopka. He has a big mouth and plays a little dirty. When that happens and he pisses off the other team, who is going to pay for it? Konopka can only fend off so much. The Wings need a good honest player to fill that role like a Asham or Moen type, not a Konopka who doesn't add much else besides fighting and like I said he adds more aggression from the other team then he fends off.

I don't want him but I hope he stays in the league with a team where he can ride shotgun.

Konopka showed last year he can fend off the most in the NHL out of anyone with 33 fights. If he plays a little dirty and has the other team off their game then I think he is even more valuable. He's a pretty average 4th line guy.

We'll have Abdelkader next year who can fight, Ericcson and possibly a tough number 6 defenseman or Janik in the line up fairly often. That is a team that can handle itself.

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