Armchair GM for the WIngs - Whats your ideal roster?

[stevkrause 1,247]

Lets play a game - if you could ice YOUR perfect roster with the remaining Free Agents and who we already have locked in, knowing the salary cap inflator and where it's at now, what would your team look like?

Please follow the guidelines:

- Everyone currently under contract HAS to be included

- No trades

- Must include at least 3 of the RFA's which have been qualified - Please also factor in their 5% min raise

- Be reasonable ( a guy who could get 2.5m+ on the open market, is not going to sign here for 1.5m or less)

As it currently stands we are at:

Pavel Datsyuk — $6,700,000

Henrik Zetterberg — $6,083,333

Johan Franzen — $3,954,545

Valtteri Filppula — $3,000,000

Jiri Hudler — $2,875,000

Daniel Cleary — $2,800,000

Todd Bertuzzi — $1,937,500

Tomas Holmstrom — $1,875,000

Kris Draper — $1,583,333

Mattias Ritola — $516,667

Nicklas Lidstrom — $6,200,000

Brian Rafalski — $6,000,000

Brad Stuart — $3,750,000

Niklas Kronwall — $3,000,000

Jonathan Ericsson — $900,000

Jakub Kindl — $883,333

Chris Osgood — $1,416,667

Jimmy Howard — $716,667

ROSTER SIZE 18

SALARY CAP $59,400,000

PAYROLL $54,192,045

BONUSES $0

CAP SPACE $5,207,955

[king_malice 17]

2010-11 DETROIT RED WINGS

LEFT WING CENTER RIGHT WING

Tomas Holmstrom ($1.9m) Henrik Zetterberg ($6.1m) Johan Franzen ($4.0m)

Jiri Hudler ($2.9m) Pavel Datsyuk ($6.7m) Todd Bertuzzi ($1.9m)

Daniel Cleary ($2.8m) Valtteri Filppula ($3.0m) * Justin Abdelkader ($1.0m)

* Adam Burish ($1.0m) * Darren Helm ($0.9m) * Patrick Eaves ($0.6m)

Kris Draper ($1.6m)

LEFT DEFENSE RIGHT DEFENSE

Brad Stuart ($3.8m) Brian Rafalski ($6.0m)

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.2m) Niklas Kronwall ($3.0m)

* Johnny Boychuk ($1.2m) Jonathan Ericsson ($0.9m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.9m)

GOALTENDERS

Chris Osgood ($1.4m)

Jimmy Howard ($0.7m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (compiled using the bonus cushion)

ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.0m; PAYROLL: $58.425m; CAP ROOM: $0.575m BONUSES: $0.000m

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029]

Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom

Filppula-Zetterberg-Hudler

Cleary-Helm-Bertuzzi

Boll-Abdelkader-McGrattan

-Draper/Eaves

Lidstrom-Rafalski

Stuart-Kronwall

Ericsson-O'Donnell

Kindl

Janik

O'Donnell signs for a mil

Eaves for 700 K

Abdelkader for 700 K

Helm for 700 K

McGrattan for 500 K

Boll for 550 K

Bury Ritola in the minors

[stevkrause 1,247]

2010-11 DETROIT RED WINGS

LEFT WING CENTER RIGHT WING

Tomas Holmstrom ($1.9m) Henrik Zetterberg ($6.1m) Johan Franzen ($4.0m)

Jiri Hudler ($2.9m) Pavel Datsyuk ($6.7m) Todd Bertuzzi ($1.9m)

Daniel Cleary ($2.8m) Valtteri Filppula ($3.0m) * Justin Abdelkader ($1.0m)

* Adam Burish ($1.0m) * Darren Helm ($0.9m) * Patrick Eaves ($0.6m)

Kris Draper ($1.6m)

LEFT DEFENSE RIGHT DEFENSE

Brad Stuart ($3.8m) Brian Rafalski ($6.0m)

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.2m) Niklas Kronwall ($3.0m)

* Johnny Boychuk ($1.2m) Jonathan Ericsson ($0.9m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.9m)

GOALTENDERS

Chris Osgood ($1.4m)

Jimmy Howard ($0.7m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (compiled using the bonus cushion)

ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.0m; PAYROLL: $58.425m; CAP ROOM: $0.575m BONUSES: $0.000m

I would LOVE to see Boychuck here, but do you really think we have a chance now that Boston moved Wideman? I got to imagine it's almost a certainty they will re-sign him now... I know I said YOUR perfect roster, and it doesn't mean you have to think it's actually a possibility, I was just wondering if you thought we still had any shot at him...

Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom

Filppula-Zetterberg-Hudler

Cleary-Helm-Bertuzzi

Boll-Abdelkader-McGrattan

-Draper/Eaves

Lidstrom-Rafalski

Stuart-Kronwall

Ericsson-O'Donnell

Kindl

Janik

O'Donnell signs for a mil

Eaves for 700 K

Abdelkader for 700 K

Helm for 700 K

McGrattan for 500 K

Boll for 550 K

Bury Ritola in the minors

you didn't follow the rules... tisk, tisk...

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029]

Damn it...legit looking lineup too

[stevkrause 1,247]

Damn it...legit looking lineup too

Just dump McGrattan and put Eaves in his spot, then put Ritola back with the big club as an extra forward (as he is not waiver exempt) and put Janik back in GR... and you're back within the guidelines (and you got a pretty good looking line-up too)

You also had too many people on the roster...

Edited June 23, 2010 by stevkrause

[redwingfan19 293]

I posted this lineup in another thread but I think this lineup is realistically possible:

these are the lines i guess I would want too:

FORWARDS

Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)

Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m) / * Justin Abdelkader ($0.893m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)

* Patrick Eaves ($0.525m) / * Darren Helm ($0.630m) / * Zenon Konopka ($0.650m)

Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)

DEFENSEMEN

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

* Garnett Exelby ($1.250m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS

Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) / Chris Osgood ($1.417m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS

(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)

ROSTER: 23; CAP:$59.0m; PAYROLL: $58.140m; CAP ROOM: $0.860m BONUSES: $0.000m

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES

FORWARDS

Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)

Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m)

* Eric Nystrom ($1.200m) / * Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / * Darren Helm ($0.900m)

* Patrick Eaves ($0.600m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)

DEFENSEMEN

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

* Garnett Exelby ($1.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS

Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS

(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)

ROSTER: 23; CAP: $59.0m; PAYROLL: $58.892m; CAP ROOM: $0.108m BONUSES: $0.000m

Would Exelby and Nystrom take those amounts? Who knows, but that's my ideal roster.

[king_malice 17]

I would LOVE to see Boychuck here, but do you really think we have a chance now that Boston moved Wideman? I got to imagine it's almost a certainty they will re-sign him now... I know I said YOUR perfect roster, and it doesn't mean you have to think it's actually a possibility, I was just wondering if you thought we still had any shot at him...

you didn't follow the rules... tisk, tisk...

The only reason i think we could get Boychuk is because the Bruins are rumored to be trying to make a deal for Kaberele again sending someone like Bergeron or Savard which means they have

Chara

Kaberle

Stuart

Ference

Hunwick

Seidenberg

Boychuck

so thats the only reason i could see us making a deal for him

[stevkrause 1,247]

The only reason i think we could get Boychuk is because the Bruins are rumored to be trying to make a deal for Kaberele again sending someone like Bergeron or Savard which means they have

Chara

Kaberle

Stuart

Ference

Hunwick

Seidenberg

Boychuck

so thats the only reason i could see us making a deal for him

hey, like I said, I would LOVE to see him here, so if there is any way possible, I'm all for it... he's in my "perfect" roster scenario too and I'd even up the offer to get him...

My perfect roster:(lines are arbitrary)

Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)

Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.920m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)

Brad Winchester ($0.800m) / Darren Helm ($0.630m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.750m)

Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)

Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m) / Johnny Boychuk ($1.800m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) / Chris Osgood ($1.417m)

ROSTER: 23; CAP:$59.4m; PAYROLL: $59.092m; CAP ROOM: $0.308m BONUSES: $0.000m

EDIT - Changed my mind about forward

Edited June 24, 2010 by stevkrause

[KDDRWINGS1 9]

Franzen Zetterberg Holmstrom

Filppula Datsyuk Bertuzzi

Hudler Prospal Cleary

Abdelkader Helm/Draper Artyukhin

Lidstrom Kronwall

Stuart Rafalski

Kindl/Ericsson Exelby or Sutton

Howard

Osgood

Rules

[McAwesome 754]

2010-11 DETROIT RED WINGS

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS

Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)

Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m) / * Justin Abdelkader ($0.900m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)

* Patrick Eaves ($0.650m) / * Darren Helm ($0.750m) / * Evgeny Artyukhin ($0.800m)

Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)

DEFENSEMEN

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)

* Carlo Colaiacovo ($1.250m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS

Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS

(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)

ROSTER: 23; CAP:$59.0m; PAYROLL: $58.542m; CAP ROOM: $0.458m BONUSES: $0.000m

[king_malice 17]

Boychuk or Coliacovo i would love on this team

[McAwesome 754]

Any of the UFAs mentioned on here I would welcome, I just went with what I thought would fit out cap space as well as meet the roles at Holland said he was looking to fill. Artyukhin fills the gritty 4th line role, and Colaiacovo gives us a 5/6 Dman who fits our budget, both are not afraid to drop the gloves, and they are good for about 20-30 points each.

I would really like to see Boychuck, but unless Boston is going to make an offer for Kaberle, I don't see them letting him go.

Edited June 23, 2010 by McAwesome

[HankthaTank 1,100]

Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary

Hudler-Datsyuk-Holmstrom

Filppula-Helm-Bertuzzi

(torn) Asham/Winchester*-Abdelkader-Eaves

(Ritola, Draper)

Lidstrom-Kronwall

Stuart-Rafalski

Kindl-Sutton*

(Ericsson, Janik)

Howard

Osgood

Not a capgeek even with capgeek.com right in front of me so no salary ideas. With the given space we have left I would say this can happen. If it does consider us way tougher and just that much more ready for a run. Healthy, this lineup is beyond legit.

[hooon 1,089]

I hate numbers so I wont even try. I like most of those lineups. People have given me crap for saying so, but I am really pleased with the makeup of our lineup for next season. I know a lot of people are saying we are last year's team plus Hudler, but I disagree.

The 4th line signing will be huge, and I really hope we don't make Miller an offer, it'd be such a waste. Having a real tough guy on the team will be a huge confidence boost.

I also still want to retain Lilja, but it seems like that possibility is dwindling. I like Konopka and Winchester. Guys that can chip in some points now and then.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Franzen Zetterberg Holmstrom

Filppula Datsyuk Bertuzzi

Hudler Prospal Cleary

Abdelkader Helm/Draper Artyukhin

Lidstrom Kronwall

Stuart Rafalski

Kindl/Ericsson Exelby or Sutton

Howard

Osgood

Rules

Prospal will never be a wing as long as Babcock is the coach.

[RedWingAbner 13]

I say bring up the kids (Ritola, Kindl, Abdelkader) full time and keep the roster intact with $4-$5 M in cap space. All the while, invest in clone technology, which does not count against the cap. Feed the clone nothing but hockey knowledge and advise him that this is Nicklas Lidstrom's last season. Then, assuming that this process is complete by the trade deadline, kidnap the real Ken Holland and replace with the clone so that the team is improved for the playoffs.

Or, go the Jason Williams route, come just under the cap from day 1, suffer a serious injury to *insert player name* that projects to be healed by the playoffs, then hail his return as our trade deadline acquisition/pick up Cory Cross....Todd Gill....etc.

[djdan 2]

AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES

FORWARDS

Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)

Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m)

* Eric Nystrom ($1.200m) / * Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / * Darren Helm ($0.900m)

* Patrick Eaves ($0.600m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)

DEFENSEMEN

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

* Garnett Exelby ($1.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS

Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS

(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)

ROSTER: 23; CAP: $59.0m; PAYROLL: $58.892m; CAP ROOM: $0.108m BONUSES: $0.000m

Would Exelby and Nystrom take those amounts? Who knows, but that's my ideal roster.

VERY GOOD LINE UP

[titanium2 867]

Screw the rules.

Franzen-Zetterberg-Alfredsson

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Radulov

Ruutu-Filppula-Ruutu

Michalek-Krejci-Hudler

Lidstrom-Kronwall

Stuart-Weber

Suter-Rafalski

Miller

Howard

What? It can be fun to play NHL 10 every now and again.

[HankthaTank 1,100]

Screw the rules.

Franzen-Zetterberg-Alfredsson

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Radulov

Ruutu-Filppula-Ruutu

Michalek-Krejci-Hudler

Lidstrom-Kronwall

Stuart-Weber

Suter-Rafalski

Miller

Howard

What? It can be fun to play NHL 10 every now and again.

Swedes

Russians

Fins

Slovakians?

Swedes

Canucks

Yanks

Yank tendies

Love your work lol

[Guest Hatethedrake!]

Knuble-Fedorov-Hossa

Samuelsson-Lang-Whitney

Avery-Fleishmann-Leino

Kozlov-Matthias-Avery

Kopecky-Calder

Schneider-Quincey

Ward-Chelios

Newbury-Eriksson

Hasek-Legace

Git er done Kenny!

[titanium2 867]

Slovakians?

Czechs, actually.

That roster is a lot of fun on NHL 10, not gonna lie.

[HankthaTank 1,100]

Czechs, actually.

That roster is a lot of fun on NHL 10, not gonna lie.

s***! Well like 10 years ago I would have been right.

Geography lesson. There was 1 country

[titanium2 867]

Back on topic though, sorry SK. For me it's pretty much standard.

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom

Bertuzzi-Filppula-Franzen

Hudler-Helm-Cleary

Miller/Ritola-Abdelkader-Eaves

Lidstrom-Kronwall

Stuart-Rafalski

Ericsson-Lilja

Kindl

Howard-Osgood