Andrew Ladd ?...

[king_malice 17]

Darren Drager just said that the Hawks offered Ladd 1.65mill, but he also says Ladd still seems likely to be traded. Just wondering if you guys think we should try and trade for him i personally like his style, tough guy to play against will drop the gloves and can put up points. Hawks will probably want picks though saying they are still tight to the Cap, so i was thinking with our little Cap space should we go for it?

maybe something like this ?

2010-11 DETROIT RED WINGS

LEFT WING CENTER RIGHT WING

Johan Franzen ($4.0m) Henrik Zetterberg ($6.1m) Tomas Holmstrom ($1.9m)

Jiri Hudler ($2.9m) Pavel Datsyuk ($6.7m) Todd Bertuzzi ($1.9m)

* Andrew Ladd ($2.0m) Valtteri Filppula ($3.0m) Daniel Cleary ($2.8m)

Kris Draper ($1.6m) * Darren Helm ($1.0m) * Justin Abdelkader ($1.0m)

* Patrick Eaves ($0.6m)

LEFT DEFENSE RIGHT DEFENSE

Brad Stuart ($3.8m) Brian Rafalski ($6.0m)

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.2m) Niklas Kronwall ($3.0m)

Jonathan Ericsson ($0.9m) Jakub Kindl ($0.9m)

Doug Janik ($0.5m)

GOALTENDERS

Jimmy Howard ($0.7m)

Chris Osgood ($1.4m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (compiled using the bonus cushion)

ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $58.763m; CAP ROOM: $0.637m BONUSES: $0.000m

[Guest Heaten]

I'd rather Holland find someone who's going to be hungry for the cup. ie. Dallas Drake -type hungry.

[king_malice 17]

Those type of players very rarely work out and they are usually old, Ladd is only 25, he's a fast skater, good on the PK, throws his body around and can put up numbers. Plus id rather bring in a younger guy and have him here for a while then bring in a older player who is here 1 year or something then we have to replace them next season.

[Guest Heaten]

Even still, I highly doubt Holland will be parting with any picks. He's stated on the record that draft picks are gold in the cap world. The only way I can see him giving away a pick is if it's for an amazing steal, like an RFA Nicklas Backstrom (before re-singing with the caps) for a 3rd rounder.

That's just the impression I get when reading Holland interviews.

Edited June 27, 2010 by Heaten

[HockeyTownHouligan 57]

That would be a KILLA third line too. As long as he's willing to pay the price to win it all again im game for it.

[Jesusberg 1,256]

Ladd's a gamer for sure, but I just can't see him coming here. I still feel like the only moves will be a 4th line grinder/enforcer and a steady 6th defenseman.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

I'd rather Holland find someone who's going to be hungry for the cup. ie. Dallas Drake -type hungry.

He had actually already won the Cup with Carolina before winning again in Chicago. If it impacted his hunger at all it would be difficult to define, because he contributed nearly the same scoring (little), hitting (decent), and shot blocking (none at all) in both playoff runs.

[Casey 145]

At the price of weakening the defense? I'll pass.

[king_malice 17]

I think this is one time i think Holland should part with picks Ladd was a 4th overall pick himself

[hooon 1,089]

I dont think we can afford him. I can't stand the guy, but he is definitely a solid player. For an agitator type player he puts up very good numbers. I doubt it happens, but if it did I would surely embrace it.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Those type of players very rarely work out and they are usually old, Ladd is only 25, he's a fast skater, good on the PK, throws his body around and can put up numbers. Plus id rather bring in a younger guy and have him here for a while then bring in a older player who is here 1 year or something then we have to replace them next season.

You have the rose colored glasses on. Ladd has never scored ,more than 17 goals in a year. He had 10 points in his last 26 playoff games. We already have enough tough guys that don't score in Abby, Miller and Eaves. We don't need another one.

[king_malice 17]

ill take Ladd over a fighter/enforcer any day of the week, i dont get why everyone wants one so bad, its hard to find one that actually gets to play in the playoffs or that can put up numbers in the season and if these players do exist teams rarely let them walk.

[Guest Heaten]

You have the rose colored glasses on. Ladd has never scored ,more than 17 goals in a year. He had 10 points in his last 26 playoff games. We already have enough tough guys that don't score in Abby, Miller and Eaves. We don't need another one.

I agree, but I say Wings should add a big mean guy that doesn't score much, like Winchester instead of Ladd.

For $2 million and giving away a 2nd round pick, there are much better options out there.

[king_malice 17]

You have the rose colored glasses on. Ladd has never scored ,more than 17 goals in a year. He had 10 points in his last 26 playoff games. We already have enough tough guys that don't score in Abby, Miller and Eaves. We don't need another one.

Ladd put up better numbers then every player you just listed,38pts this season 49 last season playing 3rd line mins, id have Ladd on this team over Miller any day and for you to call Miller tough is pretty funny . maybe your the one with the glasses on

I agree, but I say Wings should add a big mean guy that doesn't score much, like Winchester instead of Ladd.

For $2 million and giving away a 2nd round pick, there are much better options out there.

Why ? what is the purpose of adding a "big mean guy" that doesnt score much, so we get to see more fights throughout the season and then have him scratched all playoffs long ?

[WorkingOvertime 536]

The Wings need two things on offense- toughness and scoring. We have enough power forwards (using the term loosely) in Homer, Bert, Abby, Franzen, and Cleary. If an offensive player is added, he needs to bring a new skill-set.

Also, I am cautious of the Wings singing anyone for the top-9. As it stands, Drapes is the only player leaving next year and Mursak, Tatar, and possibly I. Flip are poised to make the jump the the Red Wings (1-2 of the three) soon. Therefore, taking on more multi-year deals for top-9 players may not be advisable.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Ladd put up better numbers then every player you just listed,38pts this season 49 last season playing 3rd line mins, id have Ladd on this team over Miller any day and for you to call Miller tough is pretty funny . maybe your the one with the glasses on

Why ? what is the purpose of adding a "big mean guy" that doesnt score much, so we get to see more fights throughout the season and then have him scratched all playoffs long ?

Ok Miller isn't a tough guy. Your comparison though is meaninless. Neither Abby or Miller were on our team for the entire year and Eaves only played 65 games. Ladd was on the highest scoring team in the league for an entire year and he still didn't score 20. A scorer he is not.

The Wings biggest downfall last year was in not scoring enough. Ladd might be a little better scorer than Eaves or Miller but not by alot and Eaves and Miller are cheap.

[king_malice 17]

Ok Miller isn't a tough guy. Your comparison though is meaninless. Neither Abby or Miller were on our team for the entire year and Eaves only played 65 games. Ladd was on the highest scoring team in the league for an entire year and he still didn't score 20. A scorer he is not.

The Wings biggest downfall last year was in not scoring enough. Ladd might be a little better scorer than Eaves or Miller but not by alot and Eaves and Miller are cheap.

First off never once did i say he was a "scorer" i said he hits,is a fast skater, good on the PK and will fight when needed, then i said he also puts up number anf for playing on the 3rd line 38pts isnt bad. With Bert almost finished he could easily move into the 2nd line. All i was saying we have guys like Eaves,Miller,Abby,Helm Ladd plays almost the same style but he is better offensively, dont get me wrong i dont want to get rid of Abby or Helm and i like Eaves and Miller but I personally think Ladd would be better then Eaves and Miller.

[Broken 16 381]

Pass on Ladd. I don't see the guy as being anything special.

[king_malice 17]

just because he was on a high scoring team doesnt mean he is going to automatically put up big numbers, look at brendan morrison on the Caps only had 40 pts and hes on the same team as ovi,semin,backstrom

[Drake_Marcus 890]

lol Like Ladd won't get a better offer than 1.65 mil.

[king_malice 17]

lol Like Ladd won't get a better offer than 1.65 mil.

apparently alot of ppl on here dont think he will lol seems like they dont think he is worth it

[Broken 16 381]

apparently alot of ppl on here dont think he will lol seems like they dont think he is worth it

I don't know about that. He would be worth the money... just not for the Wings.

[Guest Crymson]

Those type of players very rarely work out and they are usually old, Ladd is only 25, he's a fast skater, good on the PK, throws his body around and can put up numbers. Plus id rather bring in a younger guy and have him here for a while then bring in a older player who is here 1 year or something then we have to replace them next season.

LOL, right. So you tout his abilities at the same time as you're claiming that he'll come cheap. Right; excellent logic.

Will you please quit it with the inane sign/trade/line threads? The first one you made suggested that we'd be able to get Bobby Ryan for $3.45m, and the rest haven't been any better.

[RedFX 48]

He'll be making WAAAAAYYY more than 2 million next season.

[king_malice 17]

LOL, right. So you tout his abilities at the same time as you're claiming that he'll come cheap. Right; excellent logic.

Will you please quit it with the inane sign/trade/line threads? The first one you made suggested that we'd be able to get Bobby Ryan for $3.45m, and the rest haven't been any better.

tool, i never said he would be cheap show me where i did !.. i said with our cap space would/should we use it on getting him.