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#21 stevkrause

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 12:36 PM

if meech hit or fight or was good at something like PK or PP he would be useful, but unfortunately he is useless....

That's going a bit far - he's a serviceable plug, but a plug nonetheless... he's a decent 7/8th d-man and can fill in when there are injuries, so I wouldn't call him useless, he just doesn't fill a need we have here...

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 05:33 PM

if meech hit or fight or was good at something like PK or PP he would be useful, but unfortunately he is useless....

Absolutely positively without a question had waaaaaay more use than LebDUH had on the blue line. Always gets a good lick in but hey, just no room for him. Again brings us right back to the useless part. Talk about a post coming full circle ;)
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:33 PM

Meech is good for something.....he can fill water bottles.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 10:07 PM

Why are we resigning Miller?

We have Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, Hudler, Cleary, and Filppula as the top eight. Beyond that, we have Helm and Eaves who are far more impressive than Miller, as well as Abdelkader and this supposed gritty fourth line forward Holland is looking for. On top of that, we have Ritola, a center who can no longer play in the AHL without passing waivers, and Draper, who seems to have tremendous chemistry with Helm and Eaves.

By my count, that is 14 players BEFORE adding Miller. Where does he fit in? Who else might be the odd man (men) out?

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 10:18 PM

Why are we resigning Miller?

We have Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, Hudler, Cleary, and Filppula as the top eight. Beyond that, we have Helm and Eaves who are far more impressive than Miller, as well as Abdelkader and this supposed gritty fourth line forward Holland is looking for. On top of that, we have Ritola, a center who can no longer play in the AHL without passing waivers, and Draper, who seems to have tremendous chemistry with Helm and Eaves.

By my count, that is 14 players BEFORE adding Miller. Where does he fit in? Who else might be the odd man (men) out?


I agree. The only reason I think it would be good is if they sign him an expect to trade him for something when they need him.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 10:37 PM

Why are we resigning Miller?

We have Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, Hudler, Cleary, and Filppula as the top eight. Beyond that, we have Helm and Eaves who are far more impressive than Miller, as well as Abdelkader and this supposed gritty fourth line forward Holland is looking for. On top of that, we have Ritola, a center who can no longer play in the AHL without passing waivers, and Draper, who seems to have tremendous chemistry with Helm and Eaves.

By my count, that is 14 players BEFORE adding Miller. Where does he fit in? Who else might be the odd man (men) out?


Much like Meech, there isn't any good reason not to qualify him. Remember, a qualifying offer is not a contract. It's so we retain rights to him as a RFA. Then we can either keep him, trade his rights, sign him and trade him, or sign him and waive him.

IMO, get him signed, let him and handful of others fight it out in the pre-season for the last couple spots, and trade whomever doesn't make it. Competition is never a bad thing.

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 11:57 PM

The Wings' top four are all signed. They are Lidstrom, Kronwall, Rafalski, and Stuart. This is pretty established.

Despite the number of defensemen the Wings have under contract or have the rights to, ultimately, the final spot comes down to Janik vs. Meech.

It's Meech, the younger, better version of Lebda, who the Wings kept ahead of Kyle Quincey with a similar skill set. Yes, the Kyle Quincey that much of this board is saying "why didn't we keep him? against Janik, a similar player to Lilja as we all remember him before the injury, but not quite as effective as Lilja ever really was.

Meech could very well play his way into the #5-#7 slot. He's better defensively than Ericsson or Kindl, and once signed he'll be the fastest defenseman we have, with the possible exception of Rafalski.

Janik also could be the #7 guy. He isn't going to make the top 6, but he's as solid a third pair defensive/physical grinder as you'll find for less than $1.25m. If there's enough cap space, put 'em both on the roster and use as needed. Meech literally can play any position, so having a guy like him around is a huge asset. Especially at his price, assuming he signs for less than $1m.

Both definitely have their reasons that they would fit the team well. Meech would be instantly grabbed on waivers while Janik wouldn't. Meech is also younger with a much higher ceiling, and is a good failsafe if Ericsson and/or Kindl get injured and/or flop. Janik is pretty much a one-trick pony who does his job well, while Meech is a decent all-around player who skates very well.

I'd take Meech, but there's no reason to say Janik's a bad choice either. Janik can also be kept on the roster or in the A as emergency filler if needed.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 01:46 PM

i thought larsson said he wanted to go back to europe?
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 02:15 PM

i thought larsson said he wanted to go back to europe?

If we qualify him, we will retain his rights if/when he returns to the NHL.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 03:59 PM

I'm hoping for a sign and trade deal with Miller and Meech.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:01 PM

Pass on Miller.

Yes on Eaves.


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Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:04 PM

Pass on Miller.

Yes on Eaves.

I can't see Kenny letting go of Eaves.He proved to be solid both offensively and defensively last year for us.I expect him back.I don't want Miller back,give me Boogaard!!! :thumbup:
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:09 PM

I can't see Kenny letting go of Eaves.He proved to be solid both offensively and defensively last year for us.I expect him back.I don't want Miller back,give me Boogaard!!! :thumbup:

Asham over Boogaard every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Winchester right there too. I love offseason.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:13 PM

Asham over Boogaard every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Winchester right there too. I love offseason.

I'd take any of them,to be honest.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:43 PM

As someone said earlier, just remember that we offer the player as much as they made this past season or a little more than they made, then regardless if they agree to the terms, we keep their rights. This is not, players be re-signed, this is so we keep their rights at the least.
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