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#61 T.Low

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 01:57 AM

While I've always been a fan of Mike Modano, he doesn't add anything to the team that they need. His leadership and intangibles are great, but on a team like the Wings, it's not something worth paying for. The Wings are set with offense with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Hudler, Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Hudler, and Fillipula, with Cleary also hopefully being able to chip in, so no need for Modano there. Modano's a decent defensive player, but the Wings have an aging vet in Draper, two kids who need playing time in Helm and Abdelkader, along with young vets Eaves and Miller, with Ritola seeing some time too. Sure Ritola and/or Miller could get dropped to make room for Modano, but Ritola's still young and Miller, while he doesn't have too much potential, is young enough to be an affordable checker for a few years. Also note that Modano has had a lesser role in Dallas the last few years and would have to take an even less significant role in Detroit, something that would probably make him unhappy with the Wings.




Filppula is the one whose brother was signed, not Hudler. (Acording to Holland, you just lost 60 pts off your arguement).

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 02:07 AM

Filppula is the one whose brother was signed, not Hudler. (Acording to Holland, you just lost 60 pts off your arguement).

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:22 AM

What lines did Modano play on for the most part the past three seasons?

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:48 AM

What lines did Modano play on for the most part the past three seasons?


i dont know about the last 3 seasons, but last year he played mostly on the 4th line with guys like Toby Peterson, Fabian Brunnstrom, Krys Barch, Brian Sutherby, and Brandon Segal. He managed to get 30 pts in 59 gms with not a lot of help. Imagine if he had Hudler, Cleary, Helm, Abby, and eaves rotating around him all year, and thats if he doesnt get put on the top 2 lines due to an injury. if he stays healthy theres no reason to think he couldn't get 15-20 goals and 45-60 pts

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 07:05 AM

Filppula is the one whose brother was signed, not Hudler. (Acording to Holland, you just lost 60 pts off your arguement).


Sorry for the typo.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 07:15 AM

There's no doubt (even at his age) that he would make our team better and be a good influence on guys likes Abs, however, we still need to add that 4th line nastiness, so if we add Modano, be prepared to give up on Ritola and say bye to Miller too as trades will NEED to get made to clear the roster space...

Also, for the people saying a "win it for Mike" scenario would be the same as Drake, you are WAY off - Drake was a former Red Wing (who makes his off season home in Traverse City) and had NEVER won a cup - Mike (although a MI native) has made Texas home and already has a ring... if you can't see the difference in urgency, I don't know how much clearer to make it...

If it means signing him at the cost of adding a real decent 4th line guy, who can play 7+ minutes every night and is a mean SOB, or a veteran stay-home 6th d-man... then I have a problem - If it's done as WELL as this, then I think we got one hell of a team and I'm willing to let Ritola go and risk his potential, potentially biting us in the ass...

As I've said since this was first brought up - I wouldn't love it, but I wouldn't hate it.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:30 AM

There's no doubt (even at his age) that he would make our team better and be a good influence on guys likes Abs, however, we still need to add that 4th line nastiness, so if we add Modano, be prepared to give up on Ritola and say bye to Miller too as trades will NEED to get made to clear the roster space...

Also, for the people saying a "win it for Mike" scenario would be the same as Drake, you are WAY off - Drake was a former Red Wing (who makes his off season home in Traverse City) and had NEVER won a cup - Mike (although a MI native) has made Texas home and already has a ring... if you can't see the difference in urgency, I don't know how much clearer to make it...

If it means signing him at the cost of adding a real decent 4th line guy, who can play 7+ minutes every night and is a mean SOB, or a veteran stay-home 6th d-man... then I have a problem - If it's done as WELL as this, then I think we got one hell of a team and I'm willing to let Ritola go and risk his potential, potentially biting us in the ass...

As I've said since this was first brought up - I wouldn't love it, but I wouldn't hate it.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:37 AM

There's no doubt (even at his age) that he would make our team better and be a good influence on guys likes Abs, however, we still need to add that 4th line nastiness, so if we add Modano, be prepared to give up on Ritola and say bye to Miller too as trades will NEED to get made to clear the roster space...

Also, for the people saying a "win it for Mike" scenario would be the same as Drake, you are WAY off - Drake was a former Red Wing (who makes his off season home in Traverse City) and had NEVER won a cup - Mike (although a MI native) has made Texas home and already has a ring... if you can't see the difference in urgency, I don't know how much clearer to make it...

If it means signing him at the cost of adding a real decent 4th line guy, who can play 7+ minutes every night and is a mean SOB, or a veteran stay-home 6th d-man... then I have a problem - If it's done as WELL as this, then I think we got one hell of a team and I'm willing to let Ritola go and risk his potential, potentially biting us in the ass...

As I've said since this was first brought up - I wouldn't love it, but I wouldn't hate it.



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Posted 02 July 2010 - 09:13 AM

There's no doubt (even at his age) that he would make our team better and be a good influence on guys likes Abs, however, we still need to add that 4th line nastiness, so if we add Modano, be prepared to give up on Ritola and say bye to Miller too as trades will NEED to get made to clear the roster space...

Also, for the people saying a "win it for Mike" scenario would be the same as Drake, you are WAY off - Drake was a former Red Wing (who makes his off season home in Traverse City) and had NEVER won a cup - Mike (although a MI native) has made Texas home and already has a ring... if you can't see the difference in urgency, I don't know how much clearer to make it...

If it means signing him at the cost of adding a real decent 4th line guy, who can play 7+ minutes every night and is a mean SOB, or a veteran stay-home 6th d-man... then I have a problem - If it's done as WELL as this, then I think we got one hell of a team and I'm willing to let Ritola go and risk his potential, potentially biting us in the ass...

As I've said since this was first brought up - I wouldn't love it, but I wouldn't hate it.


I agree! It would be bitter sweet! But with the salary cap era losing young talent to bring in a guy that is only going to play a year or two simply does not make any sense to me. Sure, the third line would be awesome, but in 2 years or even next year we would have to fill that spot again and there are no guarantees that Tatar is going to be able to play in the NHL next year. I could live with losing Miller, but not Ritola!

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 02:06 PM

There's no doubt (even at his age) that he would make our team better and be a good influence on guys likes Abs, however, we still need to add that 4th line nastiness, so if we add Modano, be prepared to give up on Ritola and say bye to Miller too as trades will NEED to get made to clear the roster space...

Also, for the people saying a "win it for Mike" scenario would be the same as Drake, you are WAY off - Drake was a former Red Wing (who makes his off season home in Traverse City) and had NEVER won a cup - Mike (although a MI native) has made Texas home and already has a ring... if you can't see the difference in urgency, I don't know how much clearer to make it...

If it means signing him at the cost of adding a real decent 4th line guy, who can play 7+ minutes every night and is a mean SOB, or a veteran stay-home 6th d-man... then I have a problem - If it's done as WELL as this, then I think we got one hell of a team and I'm willing to let Ritola go and risk his potential, potentially biting us in the ass...

As I've said since this was first brought up - I wouldn't love it, but I wouldn't hate it.


I believe there's a general consensus here.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:26 PM

Mike Modano via text message says Red Wings only team to call so far but said, ``if there is only one not a bad one to be.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:31 PM

$900K and I am sold. Anything higher, which at this rate we can't really go much higher with all qualifying offers just hanging there, won't be too possible. But a shade below a mill or a mill flat and I would love Modano to come here and center Huds and Clears.


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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:36 PM

As has been reported here he has been quoted as saying he's interested in most of the western teams. I'm wondering if he might be hesitating with the Wings because of the distinct possibility he won't be used on the first or second lines. I honestly don't remember where he ended up playing in Dallas. Hopefully though, his ego won't get in his way too much. As for his potential douchnescity, I'm thinking the locker room boyz might help keep that to a minimum. At least while he's hanging with them.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:47 PM

4:42 PM: LeBrun adds this:


July 2, ESPN: And finally, a word on veteran center Mike Modano. The unrestricted free agent continued to deliberate on his playing future Friday and told ESPN.com via text message that the Red Wings were the only team to call so far. You can bet Detroit would love to add him on as a third-line center.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:58 PM

i dont know about the last 3 seasons, but last year he played mostly on the 4th line with guys like Toby Peterson, Fabian Brunnstrom, Krys Barch, Brian Sutherby, and Brandon Segal. He managed to get 30 pts in 59 gms with not a lot of help. Imagine if he had Hudler, Cleary, Helm, Abby, and eaves rotating around him all year, and thats if he doesnt get put on the top 2 lines due to an injury. if he stays healthy theres no reason to think he couldn't get 15-20 goals and 45-60 pts


I think Over 50 is asking to much of him unless he ends up seeing a lot of top 6 time which is seriously doubtful, but I can definitely see him getting 20 goals and another 20-30 assists.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:09 PM

As has been reported here he has been quoted as saying he's interested in most of the western teams. I'm wondering if he might be hesitating with the Wings because of the distinct possibility he won't be used on the first or second lines. I honestly don't remember where he ended up playing in Dallas. Hopefully though, his ego won't get in his way too much. As for his potential douchnescity, I'm thinking the locker room boyz might help keep that to a minimum. At least while he's hanging with them.

yeah but what other west team would he play 1st or 2nd line?

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:16 PM

Modano would look great next to Kronwall on the 2nd PP unit w/ Huds-Fil-Mule. We can add the 4th line gritty winger at the trade deadline if necessary with our pro-rated cap space that we will have all year. I can only imagine how good our team could be if we could ship Draper to T.O. but that just isn't going to happen since Kenny is so loyal.

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Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m)
Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / * Mike Modano ($1.000m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
* Justin Abdelkader ($0.950m) / * Darren Helm ($0.800m) / * Patrick Eaves ($0.750m)
Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m) / * Injury Call up Space ($0.500m)
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Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
* Veteran D ($1.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
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Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m)
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:30 PM

$900K and I am sold. Anything higher, which at this rate we can't really go much higher with all qualifying offers just hanging there, won't be too possible. But a shade below a mill or a mill flat and I would love Modano to come here and center Huds and Clears.

That's how I see it as well...From what liitle I saw of Modano these past few years it appears to me that he's still a pretty good skater, and could handle 3rd line duty as well as some time on the 2nd pp unit.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:30 PM

nevermind, i can't read.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:38 PM

yeah but what other west team would he play 1st or 2nd line?


Probably none. But honestly, I don't know their strengths and weaknesses as well as I think I do the Wings. :ph34r:

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