Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 The Philadelphia Flyers could be one step closer to dealing forward Simon Gagne.According to Tim Panaccio of CSNPhilly.com, the 30-year old forward has agreed to waive his no trade clause. There is reportedly no deal imminent. Gagne missed 24 games during the regular season with a sport hernia, but he returned ahead of schedule from a broken foot during the Flyers' run to the Stanley Cup finals. Gagne is a four-time 30-goal scorer, and has one-year remaining on his contract and will make $5.25 million for the 2010-11 season. Last season, he recorded 17 goals and 23 assists in 58 regular season games. In 19 post-season games, he notched nine goals and three assists. I'd take him here if he wasn't making so much and wasn't injury prone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 i heard from a few places that it could be a 3 way trade with him LA,BOS,PHI rumor is LA wants to move Jack Johnson because they feel they wont be able to sign him when him and Doughty become FA, and the other thing is Gange will go to LA if LA gets Kovy, what i heard not saying its going to happen but here it is To LA : Gange To Bos : Johnson To Phi : Tim Thomas only if they feel they cant negotiate a deal with Nabby those are the "main" players ive heard but could be some prospects or picks involved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 If the Flyers got Nabby or Thomas, Boucher would likely be the odd man out. Either that, or send him down to the minors again. Gagne could be very beneficial for a team like LA if they don't get Kovy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Diamonds 25 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 How about Chris Osgood for Ian Laperriere? Or Chris Osgood/Danny Cleary for Scott Hartnell? 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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hooon 1,089 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 I think the Flyers are going for a 22 man roster comprised ENTIRELY of goaltenders. Interesting strategy, but they could be on to something. 2 Hockey13Playa and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 3, 2010 How about Chris Osgood for Ian Laperriere? Or Chris Osgood/Danny Cleary for Scott Hartnell? How about no? i heard from a few places that it could be a 3 way trade with him LA,BOS,PHI rumor is LA wants to move Jack Johnson because they feel they wont be able to sign him when him and Doughty become FA, and the other thing is Gange will go to LA if LA gets Kovy, what i heard not saying its going to happen but here it is To LA : Gange To Bos : Johnson To Phi : Tim Thomas only if they feel they cant negotiate a deal with Nabby those are the "main" players ive heard but could be some prospects or picks involved If the Flyers wouldn't pay what Nabokov wanted, then I find it unlikely that they'll shell out $5m this year for Thomas. 1 ceebs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 I think the Flyers are going for a 22 man roster comprised ENTIRELY of goaltenders. Interesting strategy, but they could be on to something. That just reminded me of a hockey highlight from 40-50 years ago of a goaltender being pulled but then joining the rush and passing to a winger moving down the boards who then scored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 3, 2010 I'd take him here if he wasn't making so much and wasn't injury prone. Err, really? Yeah, I'd definitely take him if he was making $2.5m and was a lock to play 70 games... and of course Philadelphia would definitely want to trade him in that situation! ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 Err, really? Yeah, I'd definitely take him if he was making $2.5m and was a lock to play 70 games... and of course Philadelphia would definitely want to trade him in that situation! ??? Purely hypothetical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Diamonds 25 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 Flyers not looking for a Goalie for Gagne... (E3) "They are trying to trade Gagne in order to bring in another forward... " - Eklund Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 They could move Gagne for picks and then make an attempt to sign Bobby Ryan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 Some Flyer fan quotes - "I agree. That ****er carter should be the one out the door. he is not needed and we can use him to upgrade other areas (goalie)" "Trade that damn floater Carter. Jesus Christ. I don't friggin' get it. We are overloaded at center and need wingers. Gagne does so much more of this team whether he's on the scoresheet or not." "I will be seriously PISSED if Gagne is traded before ****in Carter. PISSED" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 Surprisingly, the Gagne stuff does not appear to be about a goalie....Not Thomas, and Not Nabokov (who I now feel is heading to Russia) I don't think it's about Kovalchuk (could always be) ...I believe, this is all about Bobby Ryan...that would be my guess. The Flyers rarely ask players to waive NTC. This is only the second time I can remember them doing so (They asked JR to waive when they signed Forsberg). Ed Snider is old school and very loyal. He would only go to Gagne if he had something definitive that he couldn't pass up. Eklund Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 3, 2010 (edited) They could move Gagne for picks and then make an attempt to sign Bobby Ryan. Surprisingly, the Gagne stuff does not appear to be about a goalie....Not Thomas, and Not Nabokov (who I now feel is heading to Russia) I don't think it's about Kovalchuk (could always be) ...I believe, this is all about Bobby Ryan...that would be my guess. The Flyers rarely ask players to waive NTC. This is only the second time I can remember them doing so (They asked JR to waive when they signed Forsberg). Ed Snider is old school and very loyal. He would only go to Gagne if he had something definitive that he couldn't pass up. Sigh.... Did either of you notice that Bobby Ryan already got offered $5m? Any viable offer sheet would almost certainly need to exceed $6m. The Flyers would then be on the hook for several high draft picks. Do you really think they'd do that? Do you honestly think the Ducks wouldn't match it? They're wanting to move Gagne because he's horribly injury-prone and he costs a lot of money and cap space. He has missed an inordinate amount of time since the lockout. Edited July 3, 2010 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 Sigh.... Did either of you notice that Bobby Ryan already got offered $5m? Any sheet that he'd be willing to sign would almost certainly exceed $6m. The Flyers would be on the hook for several high draft picks. Do you really think they'd do that? Do you honestly think the Ducks wouldn't match it? They're wanting to move Gagne because he's horribly injury-prone and he costs a lot of money and cap space. He has missed an inordinate amount of time since the lockout. actually smart guy who thinks he knows everything, if you did you would know that Ryan got offered 5yrs and that was the problem the 5-6mill is fine he and his agent have said he wants a 2-3 yr deal with the Ducks not a long term one. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 3, 2010 (edited) actually smart guy who thinks he knows everything, if you did you would know that Ryan got offered 5yrs and that was the problem the 5-6mill is fine he and his agent have said he wants a 2-3 yr deal with the Ducks not a long term one. You did point out poor phrasing in my post. I'm well aware that he doesn't want a long-term deal with the Ducks at $5m. He can probably get more than $5m three years down the line, and hence it doesn't make sense for him to lock in his salary for a long period at that number. However, since the Ducks have already made an offer of $5m per year, do you seriously think that they wouldn't match any offer for less than $6m? Edited July 3, 2010 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 You did point out poor phrasing in my post. I'm well aware that he doesn't want a long-term deal with the Ducks at $5m. He can probably get more than $5m three years down the line, and hence it doesn't make sense for him to lock in his salary for a long period at that number. However, since the Ducks have already made an offer of $5m per year, do you seriously think that they wouldn't match any offer for less than $6m? If not, then it might beef up the theory that the Flyers want to move Gagne because he is indeed too injury prone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 4, 2010 If not, then it might beef up the theory that the Flyers want to move Gagne because he is indeed too injury prone. Aye, though I retract my previous statement; he hasn't missed a huge number of games since the lockout. He has only missed 90 or so. Perhaps he has recently suffered an injury that has a high possibility of recurrence. Whatever the case, moving Gagne to sign a player who is only marginally better (albeit younger), and needing to give up a bunch of picks in the process, would be a of questionable utility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 Maybe it's because I was raised in Philly and Gagne was my favorite Flyer, but I'd love to have him. I don't, however, know what I would give up for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puffy 97 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) They could move Gagne for picks and then make an attempt to sign Bobby Ryan. I can't believe Bobby Ryan turned down the 5 year 25 million dollar offer from Anaheim. He must hate it there, because there is no way in hell he is worth more than Ryan Getzlaf! Edited July 4, 2010 by puffy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 That is a little crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 11, 2010 Most Flyer fans are upset about this. They would much rather have Carter moved than Gagne owing to the problem it would create on the wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted July 11, 2010 How about Chris Osgood for Ian Laperriere? Or Chris Osgood/Danny Cleary for Scott Hartnell? Really? Come on.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites