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#141 StevieY9802

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:04 PM

If i recall correctly you cannot trade a player for a period of one year after they go through arbitration. Chicago either accepts the arbitrators contract and Niemi is unmovable for 1 year or they decline it and Niemi becomes a UFA.

You might be right about the trading thing. It sounds familiar.

#142 Original-Six

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:05 PM

Good luck trying to get someone to take that massive contract.


That would be like trying to convince someone to buy some nuclear waste.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:39 PM

If i recall correctly you cannot trade a player for a period of one year after they go through arbitration. Chicago either accepts the arbitrators contract and Niemi is unmovable for 1 year or they decline it and Niemi becomes a UFA.

Where did you hear this?? I've never heard of anything like this. See below. This guy knows. Niemi can absolutely be traded.

Arbitration is just a way of settling contract disputes for RFA's. It's not a special type of contract. A player whose contract was agreed to after arbitration is no different to any other player whose contract was not. Arbitration just gives the two sides a number.

So unless they agree to a contract with a NTC, yes they can trade him.

The only thing I can think of that may have confused you is offer sheets. A player signed on a matched offer sheet can't be traded for a year I think.



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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:56 PM

Where did you hear this?? I've never heard of anything like this. See below. This guy knows. Niemi can absolutely be traded.


I think i got it mixed up with Offer-sheets. If a team matches a offer sheet that player cannot be traded for 1 year.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:04 PM

I think i got it mixed up with Offer-sheets. If a team matches a offer sheet that player cannot be traded for 1 year.

Probably. Just to put this to bed -- Milan Jurcina went to arbitration last off-season and Washington agreed to the award. Then he was traded to Columbus and then back to Washington during the season.
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#146 Hockeytown0001

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:21 PM

That would be like trying to convince someone to buy some nuclear waste.


That might actually be a little easier.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:47 PM

here you go guys, this was a pretty well explained article about arbitration.

http://proicehockey....arbitration.htm
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#148 Hockeytown0001

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 06:33 PM

Thanks.

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#149 Hockeytown0001

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 07:52 PM

From Nightmare on Helm Street -
From the Bleacher Report:

All types of Chicago Blackhawk fans are ready to abandon Tomas Kopecky’s salary in order to re-sign Antti Niemi.

Oh dear lord...didn't they throw a parade when they took this guy away from Detroit? Oh..that's right - Marian Hossa was there too. Are you trying to tell me that Chicago was more excited about Hossa than Kopecky? That they are already willing to give up on him?

Shocking.

Tomas Kopecky has established himself over the years, and even more so after his first season with the Blackhawks. Kopecky played from 2005-2009 on the Detroit Redwings. An injury from former Chicago Blackhawk Jim Vandermeer in the 2006-2007 season limited his ability to shine his true talent.

Ahem...established? This year was his FIRST year breaking the 20 point barrier...and he did it by one stinking point. He played in 74 out of 82 games and got time on the power play...you cannot tell me that his true talent wasn't shown this year - it was just easy to miss.

With a portion of the Blackhawks team gone, Kopecky is a vital piece. Even though he is not as big as Dustin Byfuglien, Kopecky is known for his aggressive approach all over the ice. If Kopecky is given the chance he can focus his energy in front of the net. He may not have the size, but he has the motivation and the talent. This is now Tomas Kopecky’s time to shine and prove he is here to stay as a Chicago Blackhawk.

Well if you can't keep Marty Reasoner around for just over a million, what chance does a guy like Kopecky have? Maybe somone else will broker a deal for Tomas and his boyfriend Marian...again.

Still - this makes me laugh because people kept throwing Kopecky's name in their with Hossa, Samuelsson, and Hudler for key contributors lost in the '09 off-season. Yeah, we were really hard pressed to find those extra 6 goals.

And now Chicago fans are already giving up on the guy...much like Detroit did when Chicago "stole him away".

Nice.

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#150 ChitownWingsfan

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 02:21 PM

Not sure if this has already been asked/answered but how soon after the hearing tomorrow does the arbitrator have to decide the case?

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#151 jollymania

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 02:46 PM

bleacher report is the epitome of retard chicago media
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 02:55 PM

Not sure if this has already been asked/answered but how soon after the hearing tomorrow does the arbitrator have to decide the case?

48 hours. It's all in that link a few posts above.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:41 PM

One more sleep.

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#154 titanium2

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:12 PM

Is TSN or CBC going to have a one hour special about whatever happens to the Hawks?

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:24 PM

Turco to hawks for $1M ?

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:26 PM

Sounds good to me. The guy can't win at the Joe.
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#157 Hockeytown0001

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:03 PM

Hearing tomorrow.

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#158 Bring Back The Bruise Bros

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:08 PM

Hearing tomorrow.

Add Niemi to the list.He'll be awarded somewhere around $3 Million.
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#159 Hockeytown0001

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:46 PM

Stick around! (unlike Niemi)

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#160 Original-Six

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:19 PM

judgment day has arrived.... :lol:





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