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#61 Carman

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:37 PM

miller before eaves? whattt


Because Holland decides who signs the contract first right?

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:40 PM

Eaves:
22 Points
128 Hits, 44 Blocked Shots
2 Fights
2:16 PK Time On Ice Per Game

Miller:
19 Points
97 Hits, 47 Blocked Shots
0 Fights
1:49 PK Time On Ice Per Game

I'll take the first guy, thanks. Not to mention that Eaves possesses better hockey sense and a much better shot than Miller as well. I'm fine with the Miller signing, but Eaves is definitely the better player in my eyes.

Millers shooting % is higher... fights count for nothing, as they don't win games the PK is almost a wash, Id prefer it to be boiled down to PK goals against per minute. More blocked shots does count for something though. Hits... well TOI differences could make up the difference but they still both have a lot.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:41 PM

Defensive forward meaning player who plays the best in the defensive role (IE 3/4th line) so that takes out Flip, Dats, Z, Cleary.


cleary= 3rd line
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:42 PM

Because Holland decides who signs the contract first right?


idk how the s*** works. i assumed he approached one player at a time. wondered why he would approach miller before eaves

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:43 PM

Eaves:
22 Points
128 Hits, 44 Blocked Shots
2 Fights
2:16 PK Time On Ice Per Game

Miller:
19 Points
97 Hits, 47 Blocked Shots
0 Fights
1:49 PK Time On Ice Per Game

I'll take the first guy, thanks. Not to mention that Eaves possesses better hockey sense and a much better shot than Miller as well. I'm fine with the Miller signing, but Eaves is definitely the better player in my eyes.

So they were practically even in every stat except for hitting just like I suggested? I don't see what screams "Eaves is a better player" from any of those stats.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:45 PM

I need my eyes tested, I read the sub-heading as 850k... and I was a little disappointed. 650k is great.

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#67 Carman

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:46 PM

idk how the s*** works. i assumed he approached one player at a time. wondered why he would approach miller before eaves


Nah, he sent out qualifying offers to both of them at the same time, it's just Miller agreed to it faster then Eaves has.

It's not that Holland wanted one or the other more.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:46 PM

I need my eyes tested, I read the sub-heading as 850k... and I was a little disappointed. 650k is great.

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Me too. When I first glanced at Drake's thread about Halak I thought it said "Hank signs with St. Louis" and almost shat myself.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:47 PM

So they were practically even in every stat except for hitting just like I suggested? I don't see what screams "Eaves is a better player" from any of those stats.


Eaves is better at getting injured.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:47 PM

So they were practically even in every stat except for hitting just like I suggested? I don't see what screams "Eaves is a better player" from any of those stats.


You said Eaves didn't outperform Miller in any way... he did, even if it was ever so slightly. I'd still take Eaves over Miller ten times over. Also, I mentioned better hockey sense and shot. You can't prove those things with statistics. I'd also argue that as a right-handed shot, Eaves is more valuable to the Red Wings because it gives them another look. It's fine to like Miller, but Eaves did outperform him in a few fields.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:50 PM

Eaves is better at getting injured.


He's better at not being a healthy scratch.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:51 PM

He's better at not being a healthy scratch.

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#73 Shaman

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:54 PM

cleary= 3rd line

Id argue that by skill hes a top six forward... over Bert..
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:55 PM

Id argue that by skill hes a top six forward... over Bert..


still doesn't change the fact he's on the 3rd line
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:57 PM

You said Eaves didn't outperform Miller in any way... he did, even if it was ever so slightly. I'd still take Eaves over Miller ten times over. Also, I mentioned better hockey sense and shot. You can't prove those things with statistics. I'd also argue that as a right-handed shot, Eaves is more valuable to the Red Wings because it gives them another look. It's fine to like Miller, but Eaves did outperform him in a few fields.



quick, someone start an eaves vs miller thread with a poll before this thing gets derailed!
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:59 PM

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:59 PM

quick, someone start an eaves vs miller thread with a poll before this thing gets derailed!


If the Wings re-sign all their RFAs, Modano AND a forward to keep the flies off then I don't know what they'll do with all those forwards. It's a good problem to have though.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 04:02 PM

So they were practically even in every stat except for hitting just like I suggested? I don't see what screams "Eaves is a better player" from any of those stats.

Being a physical player compared to not being physical makes a pretty big difference in my books. Eaves is capable of throwing a big hit and will fight sometimes. Miller weighs 170 pounds.

Bottom line is even if the stats are a wash, did ou watch any games last year? Eaves actually has some offensive potential and just plays the game all around better then Miller. The penalty kill is the only reason Miller is a decent player and guess what? Eaves plays more on it and is better. If you like Miller fine, but don't make yourself look dumb by trying to say he's better then Eaves or has better potential in the next 2 years then Eaves.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 04:07 PM

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The Miller/Eaves debate!

Sign of boring times in Hockeytown.

BTW Eaves > Miller. Newfy just nailed it. Any of the games last year would have probably been the tell tale sign of who is clearly a better asset to this team. Eaves delivers in almost every facet. Stat boys put that away, that tells absolutely zip and is about the only real comparable thing you have on the 2. Eaves' presence last year over Miller's was a lot more noticeable.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 04:12 PM

I suppose this cements Meech in that third D pairing. The cost was acceptable, but Kenny could have done a lot better...

sorry, i thought this thread was about Meech :P

Edited by Grim, 06 July 2010 - 04:14 PM.






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