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#1 Johnny Diamonds

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:10 PM

Let's say Modano doesn't sign with the Wings. How about this trade? Wings send Brad Stuart to Ducks (obviously Stuart has to waive NTC, but he loves Cali right?)

Wings get RFA rights to James Wisniewski, we also get Todd Marchant.

Ducks get a quality minutes eating veteran defensemen and more cap room to re-sign Bobby Ryan.

Wings get a young experienced defenseman who can smash people and is willing to drop the gloves. Wings also get a speedy verteran center good at killing penalties and forechecking. He also has an expiring contract after this season.

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Edited by Johnny Diamonds, 10 July 2010 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:22 PM

what is the reason for Ducks to trade Wiskiewski's rights? They better sign him for ~ 2.0-2.5 per year. Why do we need Marchant? Bacause we once was 30 goals scorer? We already have one in Kris Draper. Finally, Stuart right now is better than Wisniewsi will ever be...

Edited by RusDRW, 10 July 2010 - 02:23 PM.

Sweet. This dude was brought here for one reason, to punch people in the head - every other thing that he can do, other Wings can do better. I like that we have a head-puncher. The league has other, better head-punchers, but this one is ours. Better than nothing. Good work, Kenny!

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:23 PM

Would rather have Stuart then the combo of those two players. Modano is more of a hopeful plus, not a necessity.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:28 PM

stuart can be great at times but... i wouldn't mind seeing him go. not sure about this deal though. i'd rather keep stuart.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:29 PM

Behind Nick Stuart is are best D-Man so no thanks.
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:31 PM

This thread should be titled "How to downgrade and get nothing in return".

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:34 PM

what is the reason for Ducks to trade Wiskiewski's rights? They better sign him for ~ 2.0-2.5 per year. Why do we need Marchant? Bacause we once was 30 goals scorer? We already have one in Kris Draper. Finally, Stuart right now is better than Wisniewsi will ever be...


Marchant like I said kills penalties adds more speed to the team and he can win faceoffs. What's wrong with having another guy like that if say Modano doesn't sign here?

This thread should be titled "How to downgrade and get nothing in return".


Let me know the next time Stuart goes out and does this to a guy who was smashing our team all over the ice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr0JLyh3Q8U

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:37 PM

We can address our fighting issues without giving up one of our top defensemen. No thanks.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:39 PM

Marchant like I said kills penalties adds more speed to the team and he can win faceoffs. What's wrong with having another guy like that if say Modano doesn't sign here?



Our penalty kill is fine. What's wrong with having another guy if Modano doesn't sign here is that we don't need Modano in the first place. Abby will probably get the shaft. It's bad enough shafting him for Modano.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:40 PM

Let's say Modano doesn't sign with the Wings. How about this trade? Wings send Brad Stuart to Ducks (obviously Stuart has to waive NTC, but he loves Cali right?)

I think his NTC is up at the start of next season

Behind Nick Stuart is are best D-Man so no thanks.

I wouldn't say all that now. He has his times where he makes mistakes and they usually cost us big.

Edited by dragonballgtz, 10 July 2010 - 02:42 PM.


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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:40 PM

This thread should be titled "How to downgrade and get nothing in return".

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:40 PM

Marchant like I said kills penalties adds more speed to the team and he can win faceoffs. What's wrong with having another guy like that if say Modano doesn't sign here?



Let me know the next time Stuart goes out and does this to a guy who was smashing our team all over the ice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr0JLyh3Q8U


Oh... it's an enforcer thing. I get it now. Going back to the real Modano thread.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:51 PM

We'd have to get a LOT more than rights to an RFA who is reportedly looking for top-pair money and an aging role-player we don't need.

Like Wis signed for around $2.5 + someone like Brookbank or Chipchura + rights to either Fowler or Etem or a 1st rounder next year.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:51 PM

Oh... it's an enforcer thing. I get it now. Going back to the real Modano thread.


Actually I was pointing out where he sent Shane Doan to dreamland, but yeah he also had to drop the gloves after he smashed Doan.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 03:02 PM

Actually I was pointing out where he sent Shane Doan to dreamland, but yeah he also had to drop the gloves after he smashed Doan.

Well gee, I guess we ought to trade for this guy because he hit Doan that one time. Bon voyage, Stuie! :D
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 03:10 PM

Well gee, I guess we ought to trade for this guy because he hit Doan that one time. Bon voyage, Stuie! :D


Whatever smartass. For a 26 year old he has a pretty good body of work. If Stuart was as "awesome" as some of you think he is, he wouldn't have been a vagabond traded by 4 teams before he ended up here.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 03:21 PM

Whatever smartass. For a 26 year old he has a pretty good body of work. If Stuart was as "awesome" as some of you think he is, he wouldn't have been a vagabond traded by 4 teams before he ended up here.

Sure, I don't think Wiz sucks or anything. But he isn't better than Stuart, so I don't see how your idea is supposed to improve the Wings. I see Marchant there but the Wings have plenty of bottom six guys that are younger and need to get on the roster. So, your argument so far hasn't been very compelling.

As for Stuart's frequent flier miles, I prefer to think of it as teams seeing him as the missing piece at the deadline. It didn't always work because most deadline deals don't work, but it did end well once. I mean, are you unhappy with his play in Detroit?
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 03:27 PM

People value players differently. In my eyes Stuart is way more valuable to this team than some think. He IS our 2nd best D-man most of the time. Wis can hit and fight but we don't need it. We also do not need an aging Marchant. He would just be adding something to this team that we already have a surplus on which is age.

Whatever smartass. For a 26 year old he has a pretty good body of work. If Stuart was as "awesome" as some of you think he is, he wouldn't have been a vagabond traded by 4 teams before he ended up here.


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#19 Johnny Diamonds

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 03:31 PM

Sure, I don't think Wiz sucks or anything. But he isn't better than Stuart, so I don't see how your idea is supposed to improve the Wings. I see Marchant there but the Wings have plenty of bottom six guys that are younger and need to get on the roster. So, your argument so far hasn't been very compelling.

As for Stuart's frequent flier miles, I prefer to think of it as teams seeing him as the missing piece at the deadline. It didn't always work because most deadline deals don't work, but it did end well once. I mean, are you unhappy with his play in Detroit?


I like Stuart but I don't think he is untradeable, I view the Wiz as a similar player who is also younger. The Marchant thing was just to add another piece that I think would fit and contribute for just this season(sort of like a Dallas Drake type) and he has an expiring contract as well.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 03:37 PM

To be honest, I'd rather keep Stuart and move Rafalski but his $6mil cap hit doesn't make it as easy.





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