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#21 ben_usmc

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 01:29 PM

I was one of those people who were extremely hard on Ozzy this season; and justly so. But for some reason anytime Ozzy is supposed to be a back up he plays amazing, so I'm all for letting him be the back up for the next year or two.
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 01:42 PM

No. :( He needs more Cups. At least 1 or 2...and it makes it worse because if we had won it in 09 I think he would have gotten the Conn Smythe. He still hasn't gotten the recognition he deserves IMO, and he can't retire until he does.


He for sure would have been the Conn Smythe winner in 09 had the Wings won, and that would have been one of the better stories of the season for Ozzie - being named playoff MVP after such a sub-par regular season.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 04:05 PM

What's also forgotten in discussions about Osgood?

Only 8 goalies have played more playoff games, and only 7 have won more. Of the seven goalies who have won more, there are 25 Cup rings, 24 earned as starter of the last 30 Cups, and 5 Conn Smythe trophies of the 9 awarded to goalies in that time frame.

No other goaltender during that time frame has come even close to those kinds of numbers. If Osgood plays a couple more seasons and gets playoff time, he passes Vernon (77), Dryden (80), perhaps even Belfour (88), Smith (88), and Fuhr (92) in playoff wins.

The active top-10 list?

Osgood (74)
Nabokov (40)
Khabibulin (39)
Fleury (38)
Giguere (33)
Kiprusoff (25)
Ward (23)
Miller (22)
Lalime (21)
Turco (21)

Fleury, Ward, and Miller are the only ones with a realistic chance of matching Osgood by the same age.

Osgood has 74 wins at 37.
Fleury, 25, would have to average 3 wins per postseason.
Ward, 26, would have to average 4.5 wins per postseason.
Miller, 29, would have to average 6.5 wins per postseason.
Khabibulin, 37, would have to win 35 games this postseason...
Those three and Khabibulin are the only starters on the list, and Khabi is as old as Ozzie and playing for a non-playoff team. And it's likely that none of them will do it. Fleury has the best chance; he might do it or come close. The other two have to average a second round appearance over the remaining time.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 04:12 PM

What's also forgotten in discussions about Osgood?

Only 8 goalies have played more playoff games, and only 7 have won more. Of the seven goalies who have won more, there are 25 Cup rings, 24 earned as starter of the last 30 Cups, and 5 Conn Smythe trophies of the 9 awarded to goalies in that time frame.

No other goaltender during that time frame has come even close to those kinds of numbers. If Osgood plays a couple more seasons and gets playoff time, he passes Vernon (77), Dryden (80), perhaps even Belfour (88), Smith (88), and Fuhr (92) in playoff wins.

The active top-10 list?

Brodeur (99)
Osgood (74)
Nabokov (40)
Khabibulin (39)
Fleury (38)
Giguere (33)
Kiprusoff (25)
Ward (23)
Miller (22)
Lalime (21)
Turco (21)

Fleury, Ward, and Miller are the only ones with a realistic chance of matching Osgood by the same age.

Osgood has 74 wins at 37.
Fleury, 25, would have to average 3 wins per postseason.
Ward, 26, would have to average 4.5 wins per postseason.
Miller, 29, would have to average 6.5 wins per postseason.
Khabibulin, 37, would have to win 35 games this postseason...
Those three and Khabibulin are the only starters on the list, and Khabi is as old as Ozzie and playing for a non-playoff team. And it's likely that none of them will do it. Fleury has the best chance; he might do it or come close. The other two have to average a second round appearance over the remaining time.


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Posted 12 July 2010 - 04:22 PM

That is just that writers expectation, not fact. I haven't heard Osgood say anything about retiring. In fact he has given quite the opposite impression to me. There are certain goals he want's to accomplish and given the year he had last year, he wasn't able to make much headway. Now if this year is the same as last, well then he might look at retirement, I love Jimmy, but I for one see a bounce back year for Ozzie with closer to a 50/50 game distribution, if Osgood plays well.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 04:54 PM

Osgood is a Legend.


This is a joke right? Because I laughed out loud when I read it.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 05:23 PM

Osgood will be turning 38 this November and his contract is up after this season, so it is no surprise that people are already speculating that he will retire. I don't remember reading anywhere about Ozzie himself mentioning retirement, but he really doesn't have anything else to prove, other than perhaps wanting to win another cup before he retires. I hope he earns more playing time this season, he has a realistic shot at passing Grant Fuhr and Glenn Hall on the all-time wins list, and if he splits the starts pretty evenly with Howard, he may even catch Tony Esposito, pretty much guaranteeing himself a place in the HHOF.


Only thing I'd change in this statement is I hope he's given more playing time this season. Can't earn anything till he gets a chance to prove himself. Again.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 06:06 PM

I hope he improves his 5 hole.

Also, he and Babcock need to work out their differences, because it wound up becoming detrimental to us in the long run.
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 06:27 PM

I hope he improves his 5 hole.

Also, he and Babcock need to work out their differences, because it wound up becoming detrimental to us in the long run.


personally I think he needs to improve his glove, seems everyone knows thats his weak spot and they just shoot for it, needs to get his glove up there quicker.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 08:06 PM

As for the whole Osgood/Babcock and getting treated unfairly or whatever, it wouldn't surprise me, but nobody knows what's going on behind closed doors so life could be peachy neat between the two of them for all we know.

As for this past season, sure I would've like to have seen Osgood play more, but given the situation - Howard doing very little to justify getting benched on a consistent basis after Osgood went down with the flu or injury or whatever in December and the Wings having the unusual part of fighting tooth and nail for a playoff spot, Howard was going to be the guy unless he absolutely s**t the bed. Sure he did it here and there and for a game or two in the playoffs, but you can pretty much put any goalie on a list who does that from time to time, even the great ones like Hasek or Roy etc.

It wouldn't been great to see Osgood play a bit more, but the handling of goalies and what not was not the end of all end things that cost the Red Wings this season or the playoffs, it didn't really play much of a factor as some might want to believe.

I'd love to see Osgood play for a few more seasons.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 08:32 PM

This is a joke right? Because I laughed out loud when I read it.

I don't know how you can't call him one. Maybe Legend is a bit of an overstatement, considering only a few get the title. But still you can't argue with the way Ozzy has played and the types of numbers he has put up in his career. He DESERVES to be in the Hall of Fame without question.
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 08:48 PM

I don't know why it was even referenced or why I couldn't quote it, but PUH-LEASE!!!, we all know that Eva was referencing legitimate comparisons to Osgood.
Martin "Fasto" Brodeur is in a completely different realm than Chris Osgood, and we all know it.
So please, it's not even worth the mention.

This is a joke right? Because I laughed out loud when I read it.


Legend might be pushing it, but "urban myth as truth"... how does that sound??

I hope he improves his 5 hole.

Also, he and Babcock need to work out their differences, because it wound up becoming detrimental to us in the long run.


I think this will be *LONG* forgotten by this upcoming season's end... if Babcock's legacy hopes to be as long-lived as Osgood's will be.

I don't know how you can't call him one. Maybe Legend is a bit of an overstatement, considering only a few get the title. But still you can't argue with the way Ozzy has played and the types of numbers he has put up in his career. He DESERVES to be in the Hall of Fame without question.


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Posted 12 July 2010 - 09:19 PM

If it is indeed Ozzie's last season, I bet nobody wears #30 in Detroit again for a long time, if ever.

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#34 mackel

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 09:23 PM

I don't know how you can't call him one. Maybe Legend is a bit of an overstatement, considering only a few get the title. But still you can't argue with the way Ozzy has played and the types of numbers he has put up in his career. He DESERVES to be in the Hall of Fame without question.


He will be a Hall of Famer, but I don't see him getting in 1st try unless its a weak class. I think the voters will keep in mind the fact his numbers were more a product of the teams he played on and not overwhelming stand out play on his part.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 09:47 PM

He will be a Hall of Famer, but I don't see him getting in 1st try unless its a weak class. I think the voters will keep in mind the fact his numbers were more a product of the teams he played on and not overwhelming stand out play on his part.


That same case could be made for a lot of players in the Hall.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 09:49 PM

He will be a Hall of Famer, but I don't see him getting in 1st try unless its a weak class. I think the voters will keep in mind the fact his numbers were more a product of the teams he played on and not overwhelming stand out play on his part.

I will agree in a way with that. I still think Ozzie did his part. Hell he might of had 3 SC for being a starter if it wasnt for him getting injured in 98-99 playoffs.

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Edited by dragonballgtz, 12 July 2010 - 09:58 PM.


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Posted 13 July 2010 - 08:49 AM

I will agree in a way with that. I still think Ozzie did his part. Hell he might of had 3 SC for being a starter if it wasnt for him getting injured in 98-99 playoffs.

Bill Ranford :ranting: :flamingmad:


Never understood what happened to him. He was lights out during the first 2 games but absolutely stunk the rest of the way. By the time Ozzie came back, the damage was already done. n

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:27 AM

It's definitely the right time for him. Hopefully he and Draper will enjoy their last season on the Wings. Who know's it could be Lidstroms last as well. Good luck in whatever is next.


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Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:45 AM

He will be a Hall of Famer, but I don't see him getting in 1st try unless its a weak class. I think the voters will keep in mind the fact his numbers were more a product of the teams he played on and not overwhelming stand out play on his part.

I don't think many people actually make the HoF without having a good team around them. While I see the point you are making, I personally feel that he has done enough on his own to make it.
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Posted 13 July 2010 - 04:59 PM

I don't think many people actually make the HoF without having a good team around them. While I see the point you are making, I personally feel that he has done enough on his own to make it.


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