stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) I wonder if it is the $60M over 7 year deal? So who is NJ getting rid of? David Clarkson to Detroit for Miller, Ritola and a 3rd round pick, gets them 2 bodies and saves 1.5 on the cap! Then send Zubrus back to Washington (where he played his best hockey) along with Travis Zajack for John Erskine, Matt Bradley, a high draft pick and a prospect... gets them below the cap, fills out their roster and replenished the farm system a little bit with what they lost to get Ilya... quick, someone get me Lou's number, I need to make a call!!! Edited July 19, 2010 by stevkrause 1 henrik40 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 I'm glad he's staying in the East. The West is tough enough as it is, and the East is too watered down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) The Devils made sure to turn off the cap option when they entered the off-season. :clap: Edited July 19, 2010 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Now we can't poach Doughty next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 well we've got the lesser talented of the miller brothers on our team, maybe we should give one of ilya's bros fred or george a chance? i'm sure they'd come cheap. 1 T-Ruff reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wally42 1 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Hell yeah, Kovalchuks a devil, can't wait til they bomb the playoffs again next year. 2 Original-Six and Branton87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Puckdaddy is reporting the deal at 17 years 100mill+ Unconfirmed so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hossa4Life 4 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Puckdaddy is reporting the deal at 17 years 100mill+ Unconfirmed so far. ha no way that it is true. Edited July 19, 2010 by Hossa4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Puckdaddy is reporting the deal at 17 years 100mill+ Unconfirmed so far. For real? That would take him until he's 44... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Hell yeah, Kovalchuks a devil, can't wait til they bomb the playoffs again next year. see that is what I am thinking. He had a better chance to win a cup in LA then he does in NJ lol oh well his decision.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 ha no way that it is true. You wouldn't think so. If it is, NHL would probably look into it. For real? That would take him until he's 44... According to puckdaddy, the source is kovys mother! Would be an insane deal if true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Yeah no way they would allow a contract until a player is 44. Even worse/more obvious cap circumvention than Hossa and Luongo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Puckdaddy is reporting the deal at 17 years 100mill+ Unconfirmed so far. A $5.8 mil cap hit for Kovalchuk would be pretty good. Since he's under 35, wouldn't they be off the hook if he retired before the end of this contract? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted July 19, 2010 For real? That would take him until he's 44... He's obviously going to retire before then. Do you seriously not remember the whole point of these super long deals? Two of our own stars signed them for a myriad of the same reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 A $5.8 mil cap hit for Kovalchuk would be pretty good. Since he's under 35, wouldn't they be off the hook if he retired before the end of this contract? They would be, yeah. That's why these really long term deals look so shady. It makes you wonder if they have an understanding that a player is going to retire at a certain age. There's no way the Devils can expect Kovy to play into his mid-40s. He's obviously going to retire before then. Do you seriously not remember the whole point of these super long deals? Two of our own stars signed them for a myriad of the same reasons. No, I get why they're made. The difference is our players are signed until an age where they can be reasonably expected to play still. No one expects a player to play until they're 44. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) A $5.8 mil cap hit for Kovalchuk would be pretty good. Since he's under 35, wouldn't they be off the hook if he retired before the end of this contract? Correct. If the player is under 35 the day the season starts, they can retire and the remainder of the contract is void. Edit: Note its the age of the first day of the season in question, not the age when the contract is signed. This is what Philadelphia apparently misunderstood on the Pronger extension. Edited July 19, 2010 by EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Finally. This Kovie thing got to the point where I really didn't care where he signed as long as he did sign before I became old and gray. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 A $5.8 mil cap hit for Kovalchuk would be pretty good. Since he's under 35, wouldn't they be off the hook if he retired before the end of this contract? Yea what seeinred said pretty much. Imagine if he DID play into his 40's...wouldn't want to be paying him almost 6m a year haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted July 19, 2010 They would be, yeah. That's why these really long term deals look so shady. It makes you wonder if they have an understanding that a player is going to retire at a certain age. There's no way the Devils can expect Kovy to play into his mid-40s. No, I get why they're made. The difference is our players are signed until an age where they can be reasonably expected to play still. No one expects a player to play until they're 44. Even if the NHL could prove that there were agreements for Kovalchuck to retire before then (which there probably were), there is nothing stopping them from doing so in the CBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) They would be, yeah. That's why these really long term deals look so shady. It makes you wonder if they have an understanding that a player is going to retire at a certain age. There's no way the Devils can expect Kovy to play into his mid-40s. No, I get why they're made. The difference is our players are signed until an age where they can be reasonably expected to play still. No one expects a player to play until they're 44. unless their last name ends in 'elios seriously though, this is ridiculous, these long term deals should only be allowed to take a player to 40, as that is still a realistic age to be able to compete at a pretty high level in today's game and generally speaking, even if a guy does retire early, he's probably only shaving 3 years off his cap hit at most - not 6+... kinda defeats the "hard cap" EDIT - for the record, I love these long term deals and think they are genius from a GM standpoint and perfectly within the rules... but they should still have SOME sort of regulation on it... Edited July 19, 2010 by stevkrause 1 mjlegend reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted July 19, 2010 It's the same with Hossa, at 42 years old or something, zetterberg&mule at 40, most likely they will end their career a few years earlier than that. Bettman will find a way to disallow these type of contracts soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Bettman will find a way to disallow these type of contracts soon Not before Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin sign deals like these. 1 deltawing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 David Clarkson to Detroit for Miller, Ritola and a 3rd round pick, gets them 2 bodies and saves 1.5 on the cap! Then send Zubrus back to Washington (where he played his best hockey) along with Travis Zajack for John Erskine, Matt Bradley, a high draft pick and a prospect... gets them below the cap, fills out their roster and replenished the farm system a little bit with what they lost to get Ilya... quick, someone get me Lou's number, I need to make a call!!! Wow... not a single person is going to call me insane, tell me this is not NHL 2010 by EA, ask what I'm smoking, or explain in essay form why this trade wouldn't happen? I'm dissapointed in you LGW, I expect more of you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Yea what seeinred said pretty much. Imagine if he DID play into his 40's...wouldn't want to be paying him almost 6m a year haha. I'm sure his pay those last 4-5 years is really low, $1M or so, that way he can retire and made most of the money. The cap hit would be bad but I doubt the actual pay is. Even if the NHL could prove that there were agreements for Kovalchuck to retire before then (which there probably were), there is nothing stopping them from doing so in the CBA. Not quite true, the CBA specifically prohibits attempts to circumvent the cap. What that would be exactly is unclear but the NHL could easily argue that this is what is being done here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted July 19, 2010 Not quite true, the CBA specifically prohibits attempts to circumvent the cap. What that would be exactly is unclear but the NHL could easily argue that this is what is being done here. They could but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDnXkFVEQ0Y 2 Original-Six and Hossa4Life reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites