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#41 Original-Six

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 03:07 PM

It pretty funny watching some old clips of goalies try to block slap shots by just trying to kick them out of the air with their feet while standing straight up lol...

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 03:25 PM

Both PIM records by the hammer and tiger won't be broken the wya they hand out suspensions and stuff now. And wow Gretz was just unreal, 50 in 39 is pretty much untouchable I would say

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 03:31 PM

3,966 PIM..damn.
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 03:58 PM

I couldn't believe there was actually someone who scored 3 goals quicker than Mule did in the game against the Sharks. Was at the game and thought for sure we were seeing some history. It was in fact Wings history though.
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 04:10 PM

I was going nuts when Franzen scored his 3rd that game.Its always good to hear Mickey get excited too!
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 04:14 PM

Still a bit skeptical whether Bert touched that first goal. Thought for longest time that he got 4 in the first and found out later. Still the greatest performance I have seen live at a hockey game.
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 05:22 PM

Lemieux?

Lemieux never scored 200... What boggles my mind is Gretzky *averaged* over 200 pts for 6 full seasons!
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 05:31 PM

Lemieux was on pace to break Gretzky's 92 and 215 by a wide margin in 1992-93 but had a bout with cancer that caused him to only play 60 games, so he scored 69 goals and 91 assists - pace for 97-127-224 - plus he probably would have scored at a higher rate without the cancer and the missed games. 110 goals and 260 points? 120 goals and 280 points? Who knows...he was just ridiculous that season.

Regardless, the most unbreakable records are probably the consecutive games streaks. When you first consider that a player has to play twelve or more consecutive seasons, which means he has to be good enough to not only earn a regular spot but a spot regular enough to not be in danger of being rotated out of the lineup, this means he'll be playing 15-25 minutes per game, plus playoff games. That's a crazy amount of games and minuts per game without missing a game. And then you look at the goaltender consecutive games streak? That's more than six complete seasons, plus playoffs. Fewer than 60 goaltenders in the history of the league have even played that many games in their career, let alone in a row. Gretzky's career records will fall before that one does.

One of Gretzky's seasons he was on pace for about 240 Pts through a similar amount of games. The grind definitely takes a toll. Lemieux was incredible but the 'difference' between Gretzky and Lemiuex would be one of the greatest players of all-time (5 harts, 2 cups, 5 scoring titles, etc...)
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 06:43 PM

I honestly don't think Glenn Hall's record will ever come close to being broken. Goalies are not expected to be such iron men these days.

My housemate came up with one too...Bobby Orr's plus-minus record of a +136 for a season.

Edited by Kira, 22 July 2010 - 06:49 PM.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 06:58 PM

all of these records will fall before somebody even gets 70% to +124

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:04 PM

Almost every one of Orr's records for defenseman are pretty ridic. I can't imagine the +124 ever falling. That just literally can't happen in this NHL.

EDIT: Was actually +124

Edited by HankthaTank, 22 July 2010 - 07:20 PM.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:17 PM

Just unimaginable..the fastest 3 goals is pretty untouchable too.
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:49 PM

Just disgusting the zone he was in...




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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:10 PM

What i don't like about gretzky's points and goals is that the goalies, d, were just plain out terrible.
In today's NHL gretzky would be just a superstar but not even close as good as his stats would tell.
But i guess he deserves it =/

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:11 PM

One of Gretzky's seasons he was on pace for about 240 Pts through a similar amount of games. The grind definitely takes a toll. Lemieux was incredible but the 'difference' between Gretzky and Lemiuex would be one of the greatest players of all-time (5 harts, 2 cups, 5 scoring titles, etc...)


And a healthy Lemieux would have made up for that difference and then some. You forget that Lemieux played through MORE THAN HALF of his career suffering from cancer. Let's take all of the seasons in the second half of his career starting with 1992-93 when he was diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease, and project them to a full season. What kind of numbers does Lemieux put up? He would have gotten at the very least damn close to Gretzky's career scoring numbers. He almost certainly would own the goal scoring record with what, 1000 goals? 1100 goals? 1300?

And Lemieux's 1992-93 might have been the single best season of hockey performed by an individual. Gretzky never put up that kind of scoring pace over a full season, and Gretzky had better teammates and didn't have cancer.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:23 PM

And a healthy Lemieux would have made up for that difference and then some. You forget that Lemieux played through MORE THAN HALF of his career suffering from cancer. Let's take all of the seasons in the second half of his career starting with 1992-93 when he was diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease, and project them to a full season. What kind of numbers does Lemieux put up? He would have gotten at the very least damn close to Gretzky's career scoring numbers. He almost certainly would own the goal scoring record with what, 1000 goals? 1100 goals? 1300?

And Lemieux's 1992-93 might have been the single best season of hockey performed by an individual. Gretzky never put up that kind of scoring pace over a full season, and Gretzky had better teammates and didn't have cancer.

I'm gonna have to agree with you eva...Gretzky was great and fun to watch but when you watched Lemieux it was just like he was oozing talent. It was like you could even feel how soft he was with the puck when watching him. Fast, slick, softest hands I have ever seen.

Edited by dragonballgtz, 22 July 2010 - 10:23 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:12 AM

And a healthy Lemieux would have made up for that difference and then some. You forget that Lemieux played through MORE THAN HALF of his career suffering from cancer. Let's take all of the seasons in the second half of his career starting with 1992-93 when he was diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease, and project them to a full season. What kind of numbers does Lemieux put up? He would have gotten at the very least damn close to Gretzky's career scoring numbers. He almost certainly would own the goal scoring record with what, 1000 goals? 1100 goals? 1300?

And Lemieux's 1992-93 might have been the single best season of hockey performed by an individual. Gretzky never put up that kind of scoring pace over a full season, and Gretzky had better teammates and didn't have cancer.

Gretzky still holds the record for highest PPG for one season, or any number of seasons.

Cancer was the least of Lemiuex's problems. He missed far more games due to back and hip issues. The fact he did not take very good care of himself early in his career (heavy smoker, famous junk food eater and someone who got by on talent a lot more than hard work) coupled with the style of play he had - had far more to do with his games missed than cancer.

Ultimately, everything Lemieux 'could' have done, Gretzky did.

Edited by egroen, 23 July 2010 - 11:28 AM.

Red Kelly #4 and Larry Aurie #6 belong in the rafters!!!

"For my game, I don't need to score the goal," Konstantinov once explained. "I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals."

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:23 AM

What i don't like about gretzky's points and goals is that the goalies, d, were just plain out terrible.
In today's NHL gretzky would be just a superstar but not even close as good as his stats would tell.
But i guess he deserves it =/

I don't think Gretzky would be scoring 200+ PTs in today's game, but 160 seems very doable. Gretzky would have thrived with the increased power play time of today's game and the reduced clutching and grabbing. Obviously he would also benefit from much better skates and stick.

If scoring was so easy in the 80s why weren't more doing it? Take the 1987 season, for example:

1 Wayne Gretzky 183
2 Jari Kurri 108
3 Mario Lemieux 107
3 Mark Messier 107
5 Doug Gilmour 105
6 Dino Ciccarelli 103
7 Dale Hawerchuk 100
8 Michel Goulet 96

That is an absurd measure of dominance, and over some none-too-shabby players as well. I do not find it hard to believe Gretzky could do the same to the likes of Henrik Sedin as well.

Edited by egroen, 23 July 2010 - 11:29 AM.

Red Kelly #4 and Larry Aurie #6 belong in the rafters!!!

"For my game, I don't need to score the goal," Konstantinov once explained. "I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals."

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:41 AM

I'm gonna have to agree with you eva...Gretzky was great and fun to watch but when you watched Lemieux it was just like he was oozing talent. It was like you could even feel how soft he was with the puck when watching him. Fast, slick, softest hands I have ever seen.



And Lemieux could take a hit without throwing a temper tantrum about it...

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:50 AM

And Lemieux could take a hit without throwing a temper tantrum about it...

Both Howe and Orr were much better all-around players than Lemieux.

Gordie Howe finishing top 5 in scoring for 21 straight years strikes me as one that will be around for a while.

Gretzky managed 16.
Red Kelly #4 and Larry Aurie #6 belong in the rafters!!!

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