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#1 jollymania

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 02:37 AM

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"I assure you the hits along the boards he(Aaron Downey) constantly threw SEVERAL TIMES EVERY SHIFT were far more damaging hits that what Kronwall throws."
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 03:45 AM

Half of his hits are late ones. Some plays scream interference...
Sweet. This dude was brought here for one reason, to punch people in the head - every other thing that he can do, other Wings can do better. I like that we have a head-puncher. The league has other, better head-punchers, but this one is ours. Better than nothing. Good work, Kenny!

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 05:14 AM

Half of his hits are late ones. Some plays scream interference...


Not to say directed to the head. I agree to the fact that hits are meant to be felt and injuries may occur, but some of those hits there are straight out intent to injure.

Like the Lindros hit, or the cross check to the head on the player upside down on the bench.

I'm glad he's not in the game anymore.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 06:06 AM

Sorry but I miss guys like this. Loved Stevens.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:54 AM

Not to say directed to the head. I agree to the fact that hits are meant to be felt and injuries may occur, but some of those hits there are straight out intent to injure.

Like the Lindros hit, or the cross check to the head on the player upside down on the bench.

I'm glad he's not in the game anymore.


So you would like to see hits lose all hints of violence, and just turn the hitting into rub out or poke checks?

The type of player that can hit like Stevens yet remain defensively sound is extremely rare, I really don't see the need to penalize part of the game that is entertaining, and effective not to mention completely subjective and excessively hard to make rulings unless you just ban hitting.

I would agree that some of hits deserved more discipline, but I'd still love to see another Scott Stevens in the NHL today(especially if he's on the Wings).

Also don't forget a lot of people say Kronwall's hits are intent to injure too and that he jumps, it's a very hard concept to make a general rule about.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:53 AM

Loved Stevens, was on of the best Dmen to play the game. Nobody brings it like he does anymore
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 10:06 AM

This guy was a master of the game. I'm kind of shocked to read some people talking about how his hits were illegal. Im not saying that the hits arent illegal on todays standards, but they seemed pretty standard in the Stevens Era. The guy may have been waking a thin line with many of his its (leaving feet, hitting high, hitting late) but Hits were a part of the game then, and this guy was awesome at it. I know hockey has changed alot over the last few years, im not saying that players are "softer" but the league is taking alot more precautions (and i respect that, noone wants to see anyone get hurt or anything) but back in the day, alot of people were watching hockey because they loved the physicality of it, and man could Stevens produce.

Im not saying that im one of those guys that love violence and love to see people get hurt, but man i miss old school hockey. Yes there was more violence and a higher potential of getting hurt, but there were a hell of alot less questionable penalties. Nowadays the refs blow the whistle if a player looks at someone the wrong way, or if his hand comes off his stick to scratch his nose. I liked the old school hockey where the refs let the good ol boys play! A penalty was a penalty back then, and thats how it should be!

It was truly a sad day when Stevens retired! I got really excited 2 seasons ago when Kronwall really started to step up his physical game. I could see shades of Scott Stevens in his hits and my eyes would light up when i would see Kronner line someone up (I.e. Havlat). But ever since his last few injuries he has really slowed down that aspect of his game. Its kind of dissapointing to me, because Kronner isnt the best defensive Dmen but his physical play was making up for the areas that he was slacking in. But now to me Kronner either needs to become more of an offensive Dmen or bring back that physical play to make up for his flaws. His offense is picking up, but man id like to see him and Stuart together bruising some players up (legally).

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 10:37 AM

ENJOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAPYh6z_eGg

OLDTIME HOCKEY BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His name is Scott "Hanson" Stevens, love it some late some cheap but the league needs more players like this to bring it back!!!!!!!!! HARD HITTING PHYSICAL HOCKEY

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 10:38 AM

The hardest-hitting defenseman of all time. I never get tired of watching Scott Stevens videos. He hit to hurt, he wasn't afraid to answer the bell, although he didn't fight that much. The snarliest, meanest defenseman of all time, hands down. I don't see how his hits were illegal or even borderline. Even in today's NHL, those hits are legal, its just the extra shots and jabs after the hits that get called now.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:09 AM

The hardest-hitting defenseman of all time. I never get tired of watching Scott Stevens videos. He hit to hurt, he wasn't afraid to answer the bell, although he didn't fight that much. The snarliest, meanest defenseman of all time, hands down. I don't see how his hits were illegal or even borderline. Even in today's NHL, those hits are legal, its just the extra shots and jabs after the hits that get called now.

I don't know about that. He did get his elbows up here and there, jumped into hits now and then. His hits were hard and generally clean, but there were quite a few that were borderline dirty and I don't think they'd fly in today's NHL.

As an example, I can't imagine he'd get away with the Kariya hit today.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:15 AM

Wow I miss this guy. He is just pure sweetness. Miss old time hockey with bone crunching hits like this. One of my alltime favorites.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:29 AM

I don't know about that. He did get his elbows up here and there, jumped into hits now and then. His hits were hard and generally clean, but there were quite a few that were borderline dirty and I don't think they'd fly in today's NHL.

As an example, I can't imagine he'd get away with the Kariya hit today.

The elbows did come up, but in general, open ice hits are still let go. The Kariya hit would be an interesting verdict in today's NHL. Was it a clean hit?I think so. The determining factor would be if they would call a penalty just becuase the guy doesn't get up, which i can't stand.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:36 AM

The only major one of his hits that was boderline was the Kariya one, but still, Kariya skated right into the path of no return, you can't expect Stevens to let up.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:38 AM

The only major one of his hits that was boderline was the Kariya one, but still, Kariya skated right into the path of no return, you can't expect Stevens to let up.

It would be interesting to see if there would be a penalty in today's NHL on that hit.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:44 AM

This guy was a master of the game. I'm kind of shocked to read some people talking about how his hits were illegal. Im not saying that the hits arent illegal on todays standards, but they seemed pretty standard in the Stevens Era. The guy may have been waking a thin line with many of his its (leaving feet, hitting high, hitting late) but Hits were a part of the game then, and this guy was awesome at it. I know hockey has changed alot over the last few years, im not saying that players are "softer" but the league is taking alot more precautions (and i respect that, noone wants to see anyone get hurt or anything) but back in the day, alot of people were watching hockey because they loved the physicality of it, and man could Stevens produce.

Im not saying that im one of those guys that love violence and love to see people get hurt, but man i miss old school hockey. Yes there was more violence and a higher potential of getting hurt, but there were a hell of alot less questionable penalties. Nowadays the refs blow the whistle if a player looks at someone the wrong way, or if his hand comes off his stick to scratch his nose. I liked the old school hockey where the refs let the good ol boys play! A penalty was a penalty back then, and thats how it should be!

It was truly a sad day when Stevens retired! I got really excited 2 seasons ago when Kronwall really started to step up his physical game. I could see shades of Scott Stevens in his hits and my eyes would light up when i would see Kronner line someone up (I.e. Havlat). But ever since his last few injuries he has really slowed down that aspect of his game. Its kind of dissapointing to me, because Kronner isnt the best defensive Dmen but his physical play was making up for the areas that he was slacking in. But now to me Kronner either needs to become more of an offensive Dmen or bring back that physical play to make up for his flaws. His offense is picking up, but man id like to see him and Stuart together bruising some players up (legally).

The dude just flips a guy with his forarm on one of those, he knew the path that players took when they were most vulnerable and he exploited it, I guess he was the only guy to ever figure it out down to a science so that was his victory, he was within the rules for most of his biggest hits.

It would be interesting to see if there would be a penalty in today's NHL on that hit.

It was similar to say Brown on Hudler, I don't remember if that one was penalized but I thought it was legal.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:45 AM

It would be interesting to see if there would be a penalty in today's NHL on that hit.

If Kronwall getting five and a game for leveling Havlat in a perfectly legal manner is any indication, then yes.

It was similar to say Brown on Hudler, I don't remember if that one was penalized but I thought it was legal.

Another good example, Brown got five and a game for that too.

Edited by Heroes of Hockeytown, 29 July 2010 - 11:46 AM.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:50 AM

Bottom line is, if someone is hurt, there must have been something illegal to call <_< Its ridiculous.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:09 PM

If Kronwall getting five and a game for leveling Havlat in a perfectly legal manner is any indication, then yes.


Another good example, Brown got five and a game for that too.

I guess I have bad memory, those 2 hits were awful calls, especially in the playoffs where more physicality should be accepted.

Bottom line is, if someone is hurt, there must have been something illegal to call <_< Its ridiculous.

Utterly ridiculous hitting in the NHL (and all hockey) is intent to injure or at least stun/bruise/strike fear into the opponent, sometimes guys get hurt, as long as the elbows aren't up, it is within a fair amount of time after the puck leaves, if the player is grounded, if he doesn't take more than 3 hard strides, and doesn't target the head on a blindside, who really cares? The problem with the nhl is the media today is far too reactionary to borderline hits, hits like the cooke and richards ones have happened for years, but because they got attention this year they were banned, yes the blindside headshots don't belong in the game, but for some people if this can get banned, than so can any hit with the slightest amount of head contact, which would take hitting out of the game.

Edited by jollymania, 29 July 2010 - 12:09 PM.

"I assure you the hits along the boards he(Aaron Downey) constantly threw SEVERAL TIMES EVERY SHIFT were far more damaging hits that what Kronwall throws."
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 01:50 PM

This guy was my idol growing up.

What a monster he was. If I could get a guy with Lidstrom's skill and Steven's tenacity and ability to read a hit you would have an all out Norris trophy winning, forward dominating, clutch machine.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 01:57 PM

This guy was my idol growing up.

What a monster he was. If I could get a guy with Lidstrom's skill and Steven's tenacity and ability to read a hit you would have an all out Norris trophy winning, forward dominating, clutch machine.

same with me, him and yzerman are 1 and 2 fav players of all time
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