Mike Modano signs with Detroit

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

and he even said that he missed ol' Huddles!

Yeah, I was expecting something more along the lines of, "I'm going to stick that treacherous ******* dwarf in the dungeon where he belongs." His admission has instead filled me with mirth and merriment.

[Buppy 1,720]

So you can have a 24 man roster if someone has a short term injury? I've never heard of this.

It's the 'LTIR' acronym that gets you. It's a misnomer.

It stands for Long-term injury/illness exception. It's purely a salary cap thing. To qualify for that a player has to be out for at least 10 games and 24 days.

The injured reserve list is for players expected to be out for 7 days or more. There are many cases where a player can be placed on IR (and thus not count toward the active roster limit of 23) but not be out long enough to qualify for LTIR cap relief.

Also, there's an emergency exeption that I believe can be used any time you can't otherwise play a full 18 skaters. Not 100% on the workings, and I don't feel like looking it up, but suffice it to say there are provisions in the CBA to allow teams to ice a full team if hit by a rash of short-term injuries.

[hockey23 79]

It's the 'LTIR' acronym that gets you. It's a misnomer.

It stands for Long-term injury/illness exception. It's purely a salary cap thing. To qualify for that a player has to be out for at least 10 games and 24 days.

The injured reserve list is for players expected to be out for 7 days or more. There are many cases where a player can be placed on IR (and thus not count toward the active roster limit of 23) but not be out long enough to qualify for LTIR cap relief.

Also, there's an emergency exeption that I believe can be used any time you can't otherwise play a full 18 skaters. Not 100% on the workings, and I don't feel like looking it up, but suffice it to say there are provisions in the CBA to allow teams to ice a full team if hit by a rash of short-term injuries.

K got ya. So cap space could be useful for short term injuries, but like you said with a 23 man roster multiple players would have to go out to even need to make a call up.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

According to which team does Modano still have it? To Dallas he is done with nothing left but Detorit there is still one more good year in him. Same situation but different name in Maltby. On one team he is done on another team he might provide something.

In one guy you're talking about nothing better than a career 3rd-line grinder and in the other you're talking about the all-time leading American scorer. Malts is a dime-a-dozen player on the bottom of this Detroit roster and Madano will provide a punch on the third line Malts couldn't dream of doing in his prime. Again, completely different situation given the two players are completely different types of talent.

Modano's free love ran out in Dallas, as it seems Maltby's in Detroit. If Dallas is getting called out on how it treated Modano during this offseason then Detroit should get called out as well. People turn a blind eye depending on the name of a player. For Detroit to ask...well really demand that Maltby have shoulder surgery and possible end his career while on the IR then not have the decency to at least make him an offer is a slap in the face to Maltby.

I understand the reasoning here, but the loyalty factor keeps guys in Detroit as long as Kenny possibly can. However it does run out at some point and more so when numbers are tight. It happened to Cheli, it looks like it'll happen to Malts, and he won't be the last person it happens to.

Detroit pretty much tossing Maltby aside and forgetting about him is OK...but Modano getting tossed aside from Dallas is a no no. Which is it.. OK to walk away from a player that a GM thinks is done or be respectful and give him that 1 more year? That one more year to give him a chance to go out the way they want to.

WTH are you talking about? Talk about putting words in my mouth. Did I ever say it was ok to "toss" Maltby" aside? Did I ever say Modano getting "tossed" aside in Dallas was a no no? Never once did I make any such claim.

Clearly you have a problem with Maltby not being on this team for a personal reason and for what he supposedly did for the team last year. Hell, I'm uber-impressed with him for doing that, but its not Modano's fault if there's no room for Maltby. If you wanna be pissed about the loyalty factor, throw it where *you feel* its being mishandled....Kenny & Co.

[motorcitykid 42]

Turco?

Blackhawks?

Who cares???

If true, I can't wait to see Mike score all those nifty glovehand goals through 6 or 7 games versus his former teammate!!

Not like theres a ton of room to add big names, so depth is the goal and I like this signing alot.

In one guy you're talking about nothing better than a career 3rd-line grinder and in the other you're talking about the all-time leading American scorer. Malts is a dime-a-dozen player on the bottom of this Detroit roster and Madano will provide a punch on the third line Malts couldn't dream of doing in his prime. Again, completely different situation given the two players are completely different types of talent.

I understand the reasoning here, but the loyalty factor keeps guys in Detroit as long as Kenny possibly can. However it does run out at some point and more so when numbers are tight. It happened to Cheli, it looks like it'll happen to Malts, and he won't be the last person it happens to.

WTH are you talking about? Talk about putting words in my mouth. Did I ever say it was ok to "toss" Maltby" aside? Did I ever say Modano getting "tossed" aside in Dallas was a no no? Never once did I make any such claim.

Clearly you have a problem with Maltby not being on this team for personal reason and for what he supposedly did for the team last year. Hell, I'm uber-impressed with him for doing that, but its not Modano's fault if there's no room for Maltby. If you wanna be pissed about the loyalty factor, throw it where *you feel* its being mishandled....Kenny & Co.

Great points NFM25, as always!!

[hillbillywingsfan 792]

In one guy you're talking about nothing better than a career 3rd-line grinder and in the other you're talking about the all-time leading American scorer. Malts is a dime-a-dozen player on the bottom of this Detroit roster and Madano will provide a punch on the third line Malts couldn't dream of doing in his prime. Again, completely different situation given the two players are completely different types of talent.

I understand the reasoning here, but the loyalty factor keeps guys in Detroit as long as Kenny possibly can. However it does run out at some point and more so when numbers are tight. It happened to Cheli, it looks like it'll happen to Malts, and he won't be the last person it happens to.

WTH are you talking about? Talk about putting words in my mouth. Did I ever say it was ok to "toss" Maltby" aside? Did I ever say Modano getting "tossed" aside in Dallas was a no no? Never once did I make any such claim.

Clearly you have a problem with Maltby not being on this team for personal reason and for what he supposedly did for the team last year. Hell, I'm uber-impressed with him for doing that, but its not Modano's fault if there's no room for Maltby. If you wanna be pissed about the loyalty factor, throw it where *you feel* its being mishandled....Kenny & Co.

*holding you back* easy big fella

yeah and with malts...the wings have been faithful for a long time with him. there comes a point where the player starts hurting the team and their style of play that they are wanting to put out on the ice. and its hard to let them go but you have to do it. if not we wouldn't be a good team at all. and there is no way you can compair the 2 players in modano and malts. 2 totally different players. its a sport for petes sak. its not like we are kicking your wife to the curb to have a go at the next door neighbor who happened to be miss july of 1987.

the marriage=the redwings, your wife= malts, and the next door neighbor = modano. just to get that straight so no one thinks im talking about anyones wife or anything. hahaha.

Edited August 3, 2010 by hillbillywingsfan

[Buppy 1,720]

According to which team does Modano still have it? To Dallas he is done with nothing left but Detorit there is still one more good year in him. Same situation but different name in Maltby. On one team he is done on another team he might provide something.

Modano's free love ran out in Dallas, as it seems Maltby's in Detroit. If Dallas is getting called out on how it treated Modano during this offseason then Detroit should get called out as well. People turn a blind eye depending on the name of a player. For Detroit to ask...well really demand that Maltby have shoulder surgery and possible end his career while on the IR then not have the decency to at least make him an offer is a slap in the face to Maltby.

Detroit pretty much tossing Maltby aside and forgetting about him is OK...but Modano getting tossed aside from Dallas is a no no. Which is it.. OK to walk away from a player that a GM thinks is done or be respectful and give him that 1 more year? That one more year to give him a chance to go out the way they want to.

Ridiculous comparison.

One, it's not the name of the player, but their ability. Dallas surely doesn't think Modano is 'done'. (Or if they do, they're stupid) He scored 30 points in 59 games. They just decided to go in a different direction. Not sure anyone knows what direction that is, since they still apparently have an open forward spot and plenty of cap space, but...

Maltby, who has only twice in his career put up over 30 points (and never .5 ppg), hasn't scored more than 11 points in a season since the lockout. His last three years combined didn't match what Modano did last year. Given the two seasons prior to his last contract, the 3 year deal he got then was pretty generous, and that should have been more than sufficient for him to go out his own way. Sucks that all the injuries put us in such a bad spot last year, but well, s*** happens.

We can't just keep throwing contracts at players who have borderline NHLers for 5 straight seasons just because they've been here a long time. We have been more than loyal to Kirk, and as much as he might want to stay, he really has no right to any hard feelings.

Modano is not only still a pretty good player (better than half the Stars current roster), he was also a leader and face of the Stars/North Stars franchise for 20 years. They aren't up against the cap, nor have a roster full of superior talent. They basically replaced him with Adam Burish. He and his fans are perfectly justified in being a bit upset.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

One, it's not the name of the player, but their ability. Dallas surely doesn't think Modano is 'done'. (Or if they do, they're stupid) He scored 30 points in 59 games. They just decided to go in a different direction. Not sure anyone knows what direction that is, since they still apparently have an open forward spot and plenty of cap space, but...

That had to factor a little bit into their decision to let him go, however. Bad on them.

[LeftWinger 4,940]

Cannot confirm it, but my buddy sent me a text today that he is gonna sign Thursday for $1.25M... Take it with a grain of salt...

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Based on everything we've seen in the last 24 hours, I'd be much more likely to believe something like that.

[M0DAN01999 6]

well you guys might be seeing more of me this season on LGW

I am disappointed in the stars but I will still support Mo's decision and hope for the best.

Do you think they would boo him?

I sure hope not, what he has done for our franchise can't be overlooked. Modano helped make hockey viable in Dallas and built this franchise. If he is I will be ashamed to be a Stars fan.

[Guest mindfly]

well you guys might be seeing more of me this season on LGW

I am disappointed in the stars but I will still support Mo's decision and hope for the best.

Wonder if your arena will bo him when he comes there to play?

Edited August 3, 2010 by mindfly

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Wonder if your arena will bo him when he comes there to play?

I fail to see why they would. It wasn't Modo's decision to leave, it was Nieuwendyk's. If the fans want to "boo" the fact that he's not on the team anymore, it makes no sense to direct them at Mike.

[M0DAN01999 6]

I fail to see why they would. It wasn't Modo's decision to leave, it was Nieuwendyk's. If the fans want to "boo" the fact that he's not on the team anymore, it makes no sense to direct them at Mike.

don't underestimate stupidity of the masses. I am extremely unhappy with the direction of the Stars franchise while Nieuwendyk has been at the helm, partially ownership issues but mostly IMO his fault. A lot of people thing Mo is going to Detroit to spite us, which I think is obviously crazy, so I don't really know. The home opener will be really bittersweet to me knowing it might be one of the last times to see my favorite player live but for another team.

[jollymania 162]

[Guest mindfly]

Why can't he wear 91? is fedorov that big of a player in detroit? he's not going up the rafters so 91 should be ok?

[rage 24]

<br />Why can't he wear 91? is fedorov that big of a player in detroit? he's not going up the rafters so 91 should be ok?<br />

<br /><br /><br />

Well, not like he can't but why the hell would he??

[Crashnburnluder 385]

I dont care what number he wears... im jut glad he is in detroit... WOOO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXh4kwAvS88

[SweWings 45]

Why can't he wear 91? is fedorov that big of a player in detroit? he's not going up the rafters so 91 should be ok?

Personally it would be really weird to see someone else wear nr 91. I'm not saying it should be retired or anything but temporarily taken out of circulation or something. At the same time, if anyone should wear it, it should be a guy like Modano.

[Broken 16 381]

9+9=18

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

I see what you did there.

[Superman54 91]

How epic would it be too see Lidstrom, Modano, Ozzy, and Draper go out on top.

Before the off-season began I didn't think we would see any sort of significant player signed by Kenny, and although Modano may not get more then 40 points (i really hope he can crack 50), as Burke stated, his importance is much more then that, and the addition of the mouse makes Detroit that much stronger.

I think this could help evolve Helm, Abs and Eaves further along, in having the presence of a North American born Veteran, and a quality one at that, all season.

Should be fun.

EDIT: Ozzy was forgotten

Edited August 3, 2010 by Superman54

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

How epic would it be too see Lidstrom, Modano, and Draper go out on top.

Before the off-season began I didn't think we would see any sort of significant player signed by Kenny, and although Modano may not get more then 40 points (i really hope he can crack 50), as Burke stated, his importance is much more then that, and the addition of the mouse makes Detroit that much stronger.

I think this could help evolve Helm, Abs and Eaves further along, in having the presence of a North American born Veteran, and a quality one at that, all season.

Should be fun.

Ya forgot Ozzy.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Ya forgot Ozzy.

And it looks like Maltby as well.

[Superman54 91]

I'll take fault for Ozzy, that was bad, but I don't think Maltby is going to be resigned.